Do you really need more than 1 card? 2 cards is a waste of $ IMO. I have 1 card and I can run the game on Ultra.

Same boat, I'm on 2x 3G 7970's, I should have 60fps in every situation TESO can offer... Yet PvP drops quite a lot... I'm sure they will get around to it... Sooner rather then later.

Carnage2K4 wrote: »

Same boat, I'm on 2x 3G 7970's, I should have 60fps in every situation TESO can offer... Yet PvP drops quite a lot... I'm sure they will get around to it... Sooner rather then later.

Your FPS drop maybe from server lag.

Nope. An avid gamer can tell between graphics lag and server lag and I promise you, it's graphics lag.

60fps is the limit your eyes can process I believe. I am sure I read that somewhere. Anything over 60fps is a waste. Your eyes and brain simply cannot process it.

I've tried everything. I've tried editing manual profiles within catalyst, I've tried forcing the settings with RadeonPro and SweetFX. Nothing works. Crossfire from AMD won't work until the game is in fullscreen mode, because the fullscreen mode we have right now, is only a maximized window with no boarder, then Crossfire will not work. No matter what you do. I suppose maybe it's possible to edit a file somewhere to force the game into Fullscreen, but if there is a way. I have yet to find it.

I am not saying my single HD 7970 doesn't work with max settings. It does. But what I am saying is once they introduce a true fullscreen mode, I can Crossfire my cards and turn ALL the catalyst settings to max. Anti-alias samples to 16xEQ, Anti-alias mode Supersampling. Anisotropic Filtering level x16, texture filtering High-Quality, Tessaltion Level 16, Surface Formatting On. There's tons more that can be editted using RadeonPro and SweetFX. But I promise you this once they enable full screen, the game is going to look amazing. Your lowly GTX760 will have nothing over 2xHD 7970. People assume that the graphic settings in the game's menu is where it stops. Believe me it doesn't. RadeonPro and SweetFX can give you much more control, you can tweak some of the advanced features and give any game a makeover with sharper graphics and clarity. Now don't get me wrong the GTX760 is a good card, I'd be an idiot to say otherwise. But compare it to the power of 2x7970's? That would equally be silly

There is currently NO WAY to make Crossfire work in this game, so to the guy who claims it works, you need to learn how crossfire works. Crossfire REQUIRES a true fullscreen mode to run. Currently, ESO's "Fullscreen" mode is nothing but a borderless window.

Don't believe me? Make sure your game is set to fullscreen. Now Alt+Tab out of the game once(make sure you have another window open). Alt tab to that other window. See ESO running in the background? That is NOT fullscreen. Crossfire cannot run without it.

Until the developers add a true fullscreen mode to the game, there is nothing we or AMD can do.

EDIT: I forgot, there is another obvious way to tell if Crossfire is running or not in any game. Down on your system tray(bottom right side of screen) right click the CCC icon. There should be a bunch of numbers, with your card series displayed after them. Mouse over the first one. A new menu will pop up on the side with an option called AMD CrossfireX Settings. Mouse over this. Another menu with 2 options will come up. The bottom of the 2 will say Show AMD CrossfireX Status Icon(where available). Click this and a check mark will appear. Here is a screenshot of the menu:

http://imgur.com/v3SreWp

With that checked, anytime a game makes use of Crossfire, there will be an icon in the upper right hand corner of the screen. You will not see this icon in ESO. Note: Uncheck that box when you are done, as that logo is annoying when not needed.

Not sure about AMD, but Nvidia has yet to release a SLI profile for TESO. The Devs have nothing to do with it, its a driver thingy.

Can you run your PC with one GPU?
I have a GForce GTSX 660 2 GB and run on Ultra High settings with no issues. * crosses fingers.

Rondros wrote: »

60fps is the limit your eyes can process I believe. I am sure I read that somewhere. Anything over 60fps is a waste. Your eyes and brain simply cannot process it.

actually this is an old fable started by a gfx card company who had their cards locked to vsync and even then most common vsync was 60.

http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm

in short, more fps is always better, even if your brain/eyes cant process every single individual frame it makes for smoother cleaner visual experiance.

and the games not GPU bound if you have a decent videocard, its cpu bound, despite using 6 cores I have checked and ESO like GW2 will peg cores to 100% for very short bursts so even 8 cores dosnt fix that.

I blame alot of this on MS and DX(or even ogl) because of their high level nature they have alot of overhead, its why I would like to see ZOS add Mantel as a rendering option, that would almost totally remove the cpu from the rendering pipe for people with a mantel compatible card/apu.

more people on screen=higher cpu load=lower fps, run a program like process explorer or process hacker you can set them to report at much shorter intervals then task manager, you can SEE the cores of your cpu hit 100% in short bursts....thats whats hitting the fps if you have a decent card.

I have tested with a titan, 780(high end version) as well as 7970 and my 7870/270x cards(a buddy loaned me cards for testing, the fps didnt jump much for me above 7870/270x (less then 10fps on average in daggerfall) with an 8 core cpu@ 4.7ghz.

mind you, I also had a buddy who owns a 980x@4.6ghz with a 780 test and he got the same results I did in the same areas, with or without HT enabled(though in this case HT actually didnt do any harm at all)

pretty much can guarantee if they added mantel support, we would see a nice perf boost for everybody with a supported card.

and since the word is, amd plan to make mantel an open API(intel and nvidia could support it) once its finalized, it could benefit everybody.

Schnizle wrote: »

Do you really need more than 1 card? 2 cards is a waste of $ IMO. I have 1 card and I can run the game on Ultra.

I run a Haswell CPU, 16GB RAM, x2 R9 290x cards and in Eyefinity mode in a large/massive battle I get 25 FPS. If I had real full screen mode I'd get 60 FPS in that same battle because I'd be able to use both of my cards.

Schnizle wrote: »

I remember a time when I spent 1k on the latest processor; I was young and dumb then. I never bought 2 cards though in like 18 years of buying graphics cards. I can't tell much of a difference above 30 or 40 FPS, personally.

After playing in Eyefinity, I can't go back and that really needs 2 cards. It would be like asking me to go back to watching DVDs after watching BluRays on a plasma screen.

Playing Crysis 3 in Eyefinity on maximum settings for the first time was a gaming mile stone for me. I finally had the PC I'd dreamed about when I was a kid and it didn't just look good, it looked amazing.

ESO looks great in Eyefinity, ignoring the bad UI, and I want full screen mode so I can get the most from it.

Doh! Assumed crossfire was working! Explains why I could fry an egg on my wife's gpu when in ESO!

She's on two rather creaky ATI 5770s, crossfired. The graphics in ultra are surprisingly butter smooth (haven't checked fps, but seriously no stuttering or lag at all--but then, she doesn't pvp either ). That tricked me, as --I would have thought ultra high graphics would be too much for a single 5770. LOTRO certain is--without crossfire, it's unplayable in ultra high with a 5770. Here it's fine if you don't count her gpu fan noise.

The main 5770 gets HOT, though--fan is working hard. Now I know why. Love to get that ~60% or so boost she usually does with the 2nd card, and it would probably quiet things way down. So, crossfire would be very welcome indeed. Or rather, a working full screen mode, I should say!