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ZoS makes a money grab selling Event Tickets in the Store
elijafire
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Then someone forgets to raise the artificially redundant Event Ticket cap of 12 LOLOLOLOL!!!!
Man this is good times amirite!
Eli
Man this is good times amirite!
Eli
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Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It’s a convenience. Just like werewolf or vampire bites. It’s not exactly hard to get these things in game.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.12 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
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Eh... I would be willing to bet someone at ZOS running the Crown Store knew and planned there would be some people who would drop a lot of money buying as many tickets as they could to get everything from event stores.It’s a convenience. Just like werewolf or vampire bites. It’s not exactly hard to get these things in game.
Each to their own though, I won't be buying any tickets at that price.
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Osteos✭✭✭✭✭
✭It’s a convenience. Just like werewolf or vampire bites. It’s not exactly hard to get these things in game.
Exactly! I didn't even participate in all the events and I still had enough to buy a second set of feathers and 3 of the dawn berries. I'm currently at 4/12 right now so still plenty of time to get the 4th berry and have left over tickets.DAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault4 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People who have been participating in atleast 1/3 of the events have more tickets then needed anyway.6 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZOS confirmed in another thread that these tickets are not meant to replace the work and effort put into getting these mounts/pets/etc from events. They are merely there to give players that missed events a chance to catch up, hence why the Indrik is a 50$ mount if you would only buy it with the crown store tickets. Since this is also the first and last chance to get this evolved Indrik, it makes sense to have this option, even though it's not for everyone.
@Turelus @elijafireZOS_SarahHecker wrote: »Hey folks,
Some clarification on the Event Ticket pricing - we want in-game event participation to be the primary source for earning Event Tickets and their corresponding rewards, but we recognize that sometimes life happens and players miss events. The option to purchase Event Tickets from the Crown Store is intended as a catch-up mechanic for those who missed out on opportunities to earn them through event participation. We don’t want to devalue the time and effort invested to get Event Tickets (and their Nascent Indrik), and have priced them in the Crown Store with that in mind.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.2 -
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✭Then someone forgets to raise the artificially redundant Event Ticket cap of 12 LOLOLOLOL!!!!
Man this is good times amirite!
Eli
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✭✭One of my sons is sick with the flu, so last night and more than likely tonight I will not be on. As many parents know when one kid gets sick the rest will follow, so more than likely I will be off intermittently over the next few weeks tending to my boys health rather than running ESO of course.
Ill be a little behind I'm guessing, so its nice to know I can get a few if I end up being a few short. I hate buying items from the CS but luckily ill get this months ESO+ stipend Tuesday. Its convenient where applicable, thanks ZOS!3 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People who have been participating in atleast 1/3 of the events have more tickets then needed anyway.
But do they have enough to buy the Indrik pet, and the Style pages they didn’t get from boxes?
It would be quite naive to think that the coincidence of extra ticket purchase options and the appearance of tickets in the crown store is purely coincidental.
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Vuylstekeara✭✭✭✭On the topic of money grab... have you guys seen there is a Jubilee Cake 2019 Memento that gives you free event tickets each day? That thing should be available some time in april, whenever the anniversary event is. I don't know for how long this will work, but ZOS isn't exactly stingy with these tickets. I don't know why they are selling them at all, but I wouldn't call it a money grab if there is little reason to buy them in the first place."The paper is balanced, but nerf the rock!"
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✭So for how much crowns are the tickets being sold for? And what is the minimum amount that one can purchase?0 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Eventually all of the Indirik mounts will be for sale in the Crown Store eliminating any effort.
I stopped participating after I got my second feather because I just didn't want the mount and these events are boring.0 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As long as it goes into upgrading server performance then I don't care if they sell a reticle in the crown store for $50 a pop.3 -
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✭✭✭Vuylstekeara wrote: »On the topic of money grab... have you guys seen there is a Jubilee Cake 2019 Memento that gives you free event tickets each day? That thing should be available some time in april, whenever the anniversary event is. I don't know for how long this will work, but ZOS isn't exactly stingy with these tickets. I don't know why they are selling them at all, but I wouldn't call it a money grab if there is little reason to buy them in the first place.
You're assuming everyone has shared your exact gaming habits for the last few months. A number of people leave for a few months or even a year or over, then come back to the game. Can only speak for myself, but i only returned after 6 months away during the DB and TG festival. I have nowhere near the amount of tickets you have or others within this thread that stated they have. Imo, it more unrealistic to expect people to play the same game for 4 years solid just in case they happen to miss something.
I couldn't care less tbh, everything you can buy with event tickets doesn't interest me. I have enough mounts and most mounts I think I need, get used once and put away never to see the light of day again. But there will be people out there that will want it and will never be able to get the tickets required to obtain most of the items you guys have.Edited by Prof_Bawbag on March 22, 2019 4:45PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Vuylstekeara wrote: »On the topic of money grab... have you guys seen there is a Jubilee Cake 2019 Memento that gives you free event tickets each day? That thing should be available some time in april, whenever the anniversary event is. I don't know for how long this will work, but ZOS isn't exactly stingy with these tickets.
The anniversary will be 5 weeks. And I suspect the cake is giving the daily tickets, because the Anniversary doesn't have one single obvious daily quest to attach the things to, like all the other events have had.I don't know why they are selling them at all, but I wouldn't call it a money grab if there is little reason to buy them in the first place.
As mentioned, they're selling them as a Last Ditch Catch-up mechanism for people who are after the Dawnwood berries but missed too many of the previous events. It's only the 'I've got to have everything! immediately!" collector types who see it as an evil moneygrab.6 -
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✭I wouldn't call this a cash grab. It's just an alternate way to get something that is still readily available in-game from events.
A real cash grab is when they create artificial pressure to purchase, such as making certain items Crown Store only (or unreasonably rare in-game). The absolute failure of "racial balance" in Wrathstone while selling Race Change tokens was a slimy cash grab. Separate Pyandonian pages in Crown Crates was a cash grab, at least until they added them to the fishing holes. The hyper-fragmented Welkynar motif is a cash grab. If they ever sell Chromium Plating, that would be a cash grab. This isn't.Edited by Gnortranermara on March 22, 2019 4:47PM3 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »I couldn't care less tbh, everything you can buy with event tickets doesn't interest me. I have enough mounts and most mounts I think I need, get used once and put away never to see the light of day again. But there will be people out there that will want it and will never be able to get the tickets required to obtain most of the items you guys have.
But I rather enjoy my Indrik, even though I never ride him because he sounds like a clown making rubber balloon animals.
He occupies a prominent place in one of my homes. And he is waiting for all of his brothers to join him in everlasting furnishing glory!
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Enemoriana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People who have been participating in atleast 1/3 of the events have more tickets then needed anyway.
But do they have enough to buy the Indrik pet, and the Style pages they didn’t get from boxes?
It would be quite naive to think that the coincidence of extra ticket purchase options and the appearance of tickets in the crown store is purely coincidental.
You don't need to buy style pages for tickets. Pages that drops from boxes can be traded. And prices seems to be not very high even now.PC EU, @Enemoriana. Ru.
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✭✭✭✭✭ZOS did not offer tix for sale and . . . some on the forum complained.
ZOS now offers tix for sale and . . . some on the forum complain.
LOL.
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Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The all event ticket system was definitely built around maximizing the profits.
80 tickets = 20,000 crowns.
Someone who missed a dozen = 3,000 crowns
Someone who missed 40 tickets = 10,000 crowns.
At least it is cosmetic only and not combat oriented.
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SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭Geez can people not complain about every little thing zos does?
First off, zos isnt forcing you to buy the tickets, it's there for people who dont have all the time in the world to finish quests for tickets and it's a catch up mechanism for those who cant to do the time but can pay instead, that's on them. I'm glad they have the option for people
Still pissed about the racial passive overhaul and only getting 3 free race changes though, that's what I call a cash grab
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✭✭✭✭✭People who have been participating in atleast 1/3 of the events have more tickets then needed anyway.
But do they have enough to buy the Indrik pet, and the Style pages they didn’t get from boxes?
It would be quite naive to think that the coincidence of extra ticket purchase options and the appearance of tickets in the crown store is purely coincidental.
I dont belive that at the end of the event there will be anyone without all style pages , they drop like crazy and even if someone wouldnt have all pages You can always buy them for in game gold not for crowns and at the end of the event price will be low as always. And yes they should have enough to also buy pet.Edited by Juhasow on March 23, 2019 12:00AM2 -
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✭✭✭Geez can people not complain about every little thing zos does?
First off, zos isnt forcing you to buy the tickets, it's there for people who dont have all the time in the world to finish quests for tickets and it's a catch up mechanism for those who cant to do the time but can pay instead, that's on them. I'm glad they have the option for people
Still pissed about the racial passive overhaul and only getting 3 free race changes though, that's what I call a cash grab
No one is forcing you to change the race of more than 3 of your characters. I've not changed a single one. Because it doesn't affect me, then I think you're over reacting about the race changes. But yeah, I'm sure you'll understand no one is forcing you to do anything.1 -
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✭✭Couldn't be ar$Ed with the amount of effort needed to get this mount. It's really not worth it & I certainly won't be buying tickets for it either.
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✭✭✭✭✭I won't be buying any tickets at that price.
Personally, I believe this to be the right and proper thing, anyway. Players should be getting them in the game, not the Crown Store. Still, if life prevents getting them in the game, and it is that important, then money will save the day.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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✭✭SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »I wouldn't call this a cash grab. It's just an alternate way to get something that is still readily available in-game from events.
I agree. I'm plenty critical of ZOS when they're being grubby with the store but this pricing seems reasonable all things considered.
It would suck if you'd literally just started playing the game and really, really want this first evolution. The price is in glow kitty / elk territory. I would not envy such players.
But it's just a mount. If someone wants it that badly, they can subscribe for a few months for the crowns and additional sub benefits. And a lot of people won't want it that badly. It's a warden themed mount.
And they need to price it to make participating in the events seem more appealing than just buying it directly. Courtesy of glow kitty and elk we know that $50 for a mount is considered outrageous by most players.Then someone forgets to raise the artificially redundant Event Ticket cap of 12
Provided people buying or being gifted tickets via the crown store get a message that they're at the cap and can't buy / receive any more - without first spending their existing tickets - there is no problem here.
The "artificially redundant" cap has an obvious purpose.
They want players to continue participating in events rather than just hoarding tickets, which is what many players would do. If I didn't actually like that look of these mounts it's something I'd consider. I'm thrifty by nature. Something has to really appeal to me to make me spend, or there have to be serious negatives to not spending.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »I wouldn't call this a cash grab. It's just an alternate way to get something that is still readily available in-game from events.
I agree. I'm plenty critical of ZOS when they're being grubby with the store but this pricing seems reasonable all things considered.
It would suck if you'd literally just started playing the game and really, really want this first evolution. The price is in glow kitty / elk territory. I would not envy such players.
But it's just a mount. If someone wants it that badly, they can subscribe for a few months for the crowns and additional sub benefits. And a lot of people won't want it that badly. It's a warden themed mount.
And they need to price it to make participating in the events seem more appealing than just buying it directly. Courtesy of glow kitty and elk we know that $50 for a mount is considered outrageous by most players.Then someone forgets to raise the artificially redundant Event Ticket cap of 12
Provided people buying or being gifted tickets via the crown store get a message that they're at the cap and can't buy / receive any more - without first spending their existing tickets - there is no problem here.
The "artificially redundant" cap has an obvious purpose.
They want players to continue participating in events rather than just hoarding tickets, which is what many players would do. If I didn't actually like that look of these mounts it's something I'd consider. I'm thrifty by nature. Something has to really appeal to me to make me spend, or there have to be serious negatives to not spending.
I would agree with you if the tickets weren't tied to timed exclusives. If I understand correctly, you can either buy the last berry to evolve your first Indrik now, or not at all (or possibly next year?). I'm not sure about the pet and the motifs, but I assume they're also temporary. The fact that tickets are capped at 12 means you have zero chance of using a surplus from past events to get some of the items available now. Even though you "continued participating in events" all along. This is clearly a sales strategy to drive ticket sales in the crown store. It is what it is. Just don't sugar-coat it with hollow speeches.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I would agree with you if the tickets weren't tied to timed exclusives. If I understand correctly, you can either buy the last berry to evolve your first Indrik now, or not at all (or possibly next year?). I'm not sure about the pet and the motifs, but I assume they're also temporary. The fact that tickets are capped at 12 means you have zero chance of using a surplus from past events to get some of the items available now. Even though you "continued participating in events" all along. This is clearly a sales strategy to drive ticket sales in the crown store. It is what it is. Just don't sugar-coat it with hollow speeches.
There is more tickets this event, than is needed for berry and pet. And no need to buy motifs for tickets - they are tradeable, so you can buy them for gold in guildstores.
So if you have all previous berries, you can get both berry and pet, and some tickets will remain. Even if you have 2 berries and 4-6 tickets from previous events, you can, if you will do quests each day.PC EU, @Enemoriana. Ru.
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Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Enemoriana wrote: »I would agree with you if the tickets weren't tied to timed exclusives. If I understand correctly, you can either buy the last berry to evolve your first Indrik now, or not at all (or possibly next year?). I'm not sure about the pet and the motifs, but I assume they're also temporary. The fact that tickets are capped at 12 means you have zero chance of using a surplus from past events to get some of the items available now. Even though you "continued participating in events" all along. This is clearly a sales strategy to drive ticket sales in the crown store. It is what it is. Just don't sugar-coat it with hollow speeches.
There is more tickets this event, than is needed for berry and pet. And no need to buy motifs for tickets - they are tradeable, so you can buy them for gold in guildstores.
So if you have all previous berries, you can get both berry and pet, and some tickets will remain. Even if you have 2 berries and 4-6 tickets from previous events, you can, if you will do quests each day.
But people will need 40 more tickets to buy enough feathers to get another Nascent Indrik to evolve in the next set of events. And then do that 2 more times beyond that for the third and fourth evolution. It's a total of 360 tickets to have all four evolved Indriks, plus another Nascent to own all 5 possible.
Once you get your Dawnwood Indrik, you are starting all over again from scratch to get the second evolution, meaning four feathers and four berries, for a total cost of 80 tickets..... by the end of Q2. And add in any other motifs, pets, or what have you to be purchaseable from the Impresario, and you can see that folks will need pretty much every available ticket, plus some crown store tickets to get everything possible.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/55477
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✭✭✭✭Enemoriana wrote: »I would agree with you if the tickets weren't tied to timed exclusives. If I understand correctly, you can either buy the last berry to evolve your first Indrik now, or not at all (or possibly next year?). I'm not sure about the pet and the motifs, but I assume they're also temporary. The fact that tickets are capped at 12 means you have zero chance of using a surplus from past events to get some of the items available now. Even though you "continued participating in events" all along. This is clearly a sales strategy to drive ticket sales in the crown store. It is what it is. Just don't sugar-coat it with hollow speeches.
There is more tickets this event, than is needed for berry and pet. And no need to buy motifs for tickets - they are tradeable, so you can buy them for gold in guildstores.
So if you have all previous berries, you can get both berry and pet, and some tickets will remain. Even if you have 2 berries and 4-6 tickets from previous events, you can, if you will do quests each day.
But people will need 40 more tickets to buy enough feathers to get another Nascent Indrik to evolve in the next set of events. And then do that 2 more times beyond that for the third and fourth evolution. It's a total of 360 tickets to have all four evolved Indriks, plus another Nascent to own all 5 possible.
Once you get your Dawnwood Indrik, you are starting all over again from scratch to get the second evolution, meaning four feathers and four berries, for a total cost of 80 tickets..... by the end of Q2. And add in any other motifs, pets, or what have you to be purchaseable from the Impresario, and you can see that folks will need pretty much every available ticket, plus some crown store tickets to get everything possible.
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/55477
Participating in the events means that’s really not very daunting
I have a full set of feathers of my second Indrik, and one more for the third already. During this event I’ll get the last berry and the pet and maybe one of the pages if I don’t just buy them. As with the rest of festival motifs (hollowjack, skinchanger, worm cult) they’ll be cheap by the time the event is over0