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If you could change one Sorc skill then..

  • Doctor_Zeuss
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    Change the unused morph of crystal frags into a physical dmg stamina ability that functions the same as the mag version. Also make the visual effect a lightning bolt ;)

    Stam sorcs lacking any major fracture, minor berserk, or major savagery in their kit is pretty annoying too, imo.
  • HanboQc
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    I wish bound armaments / aegis had an active effect that actually someone could consider using. Im not saying block mitigation is terrible but seriously right now it has a high cost for 3s duration. I dont think i've ever witnessed anyone using this skill besides for the passives. Idk like minor berserk buff on activation would be very legit in my book.
  • olsborg
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    Karm1cOne wrote: »
    Let streak keep momentum, and not self stun on uneven terrain.

    this + id like the encase skill work in a 6m radius around you and not only infront.

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  • kollege14a5
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    Overload. Either change it back to the old version or make it useful in any way maybe one morph for stam sorc and one for mag sorc. Right now it is really weak and not worth slotting.
  • Drummerx04
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    It's been mentioned before, but revert the overload change. Previously, it was useful for utility in split phases during boss fights or all around in PvP... but now I don't know if any serious player slots the thing and uses it seriously.

    There are too many downsides:
    • Damage is just okay on a long fight
    • The animation is clunky as hell (haven't tried it in wrathstone yet)
    • Zero ult recovery while active... All other ultimates allow ult to recover immediately after casting

    The rest is a mini rant:

    The issues with sorc comes down to bar space (overload bar added a nice tradeoff compared to other classes).

    If I want a heal, 8% max mag, and a spammable skill, my sorc needs to slot surge, Bound Aegis, and Force Pulse (or equivalent). Magblade slots Swallow Soul and gets all 3 for the price of 1.

    That pretty much summarizes the sorc tool kit for pve.
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  • Beardimus
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    Illuvatarr wrote: »
    Aegis has to be on both bars to get passive. Passive magicka gain should and minor protection should go to both bars. The ability itself is already one bar I agree.

    Nope it doesn't. Changed a few patches ago. Only need it on one bar.

    It's still a space hog, but 100% you don't need it on both bars for the 8% magika @Illuvatarr

    Made it epic for overload builds as you only needed 1 slot not 3 wasted. But then they killed overload, and our bar space and now its hard to justify again.
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  • Elsonso
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Crystal Frag
    - revert its CC. This change led to an onslaught of problems for our class.

    I still think the loss of stun for the base skill in Update 16 makes the game harder for new players.

    My thinking is that players new to the game will gravitate towards Sorcerer because it is the only class that sounds familiar. Having a stun right away, even a single target stun, early in the class build allows them to handle multiple mobs easier at lower levels. I have to think that makes the game a little easier while learning how to play, and may also serve to help teach the more dynamic combat that this game uses.

    Still, it is only a temporary thing. I expect that this type of player will also gravitate towards the destruction staff. With a little time in the game, they will have boatloads of stuns, slows, and knockbacks to choose from.
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  • Iziquiel
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    As others have said, it would be nice if as a Stam Sorc there was at least 1 other Sorc damage dealing ability I could use, other than just hurricane. It would give the class at least a bit more flavour than now. Maybe one of the curse's or endless fury could be modified somehow. Maybe as well it could be made to be viable in place of poison injection, rearming trap or razor caltrops, to at least introduce some variety to every other stam build.
  • Icarus42
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    The entire class needs to be reworked. Mines aren't worth slotting neither is overload, encase, or BoL. Dark exchange gets you killed. Everyone complains about mages fury cause it steals kills. Streak has a delay and will get you killed in lag situations. Twilights stupid wings covering my screen.
    Honestly the one thing that I thought ZoS would change for the good was overload. I asked simply for them to remove the weapons when you have it toggled on and what did they do?? They removed the weapons only when you cast it, why ZoS why?
    There are soooo many things wrong with this class right now it is absurd!!
    Anyway if I had 1 choice it would be to get rid of streak cost increase, that is the least they can do sheesh!!
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  • Illuvatarr
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    Daus wrote: »
    Illuvatarr wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    So many bad ideas here.
    Daus wrote: »
    Completely change Mage's Fury so that it no longer auto-kills.

    Yeah, let's make the sorcerers execute actually heal your opponent. Or better yet, apply the damage to the caster instead.

    It's not like you can dodge the strike and the execute damage from it now.

    If it helps nightblades, Daus is all for it. His posts have continually shown he doesn't care about skillful play/counterplay, he absolutely hates the magicka sorcerer and like his post above (a hidden agenda actually to help out the nightblade class as always) he abhors having a challenge.

    It is best to ignore his posts as they are normally worthless.

    An execute that auto-kills isn't what I would call "skillful"
    Beardimus wrote: »
    Illuvatarr wrote: »
    Aegis has to be on both bars to get passive. Passive magicka gain should and minor protection should go to both bars. The ability itself is already one bar I agree.

    Nope it doesn't. Changed a few patches ago. Only need it on one bar.

    It's still a space hog, but 100% you don't need it on both bars for the 8% magika @Illuvatarr

    Made it epic for overload builds as you only needed 1 slot not 3 wasted. But then they killed overload, and our bar space and now its hard to justify again.

    I am not conveying what I mean correctly. The passives it applies should apply to both bars regardless of which bar you are on. You should only need to slot it on one bar to get the 8 percent magicka for both bars. This would be no different than how NB’s are set up with an actual passive for it and given the current climate would not be op. I think balance would be viable open world builds that have aegis, tomb and streak all on your bar at same time. One slotting pets will allow for it and applying the passives it provides regardless of the bar you are on would go a long way towards balancing the class.
  • Qwazzy
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    Add a stun back to crystal frag.
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  • JinMori
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    Crystal blast, this is what absolutely needs to be changed, make it stamina and proc based like fragments.

    If i have to choose one thing it would be this, but honestly there are a lot of things that would be good.
    Edited by JinMori on March 11, 2019 1:04AM
  • Anyron
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    Boundless storm

    Manifest yourself as pure lighting, zapping nearby enemies with electricity dealing XXX Shock Damage every 1 second for 23 seconds.

    While in this form you also gain Major Resolve and Major Ward, increasing your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance by 5280.

    Activating this ability removes all snares and immobilizations from you and grants immunity to them for 4 seconds.

    It makes sense if you are "pure lighting" you should be immune to snares and roots
    Edited by Anyron on March 11, 2019 10:45AM
  • Illuvatarr
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    Anyron wrote: »
    Boundless storm

    Manifest yourself as pure lighting, zapping nearby enemies with electricity dealing XXX Shock Damage every 1 second for 23 seconds.

    While in this form you also gain Major Resolve and Major Ward, increasing your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance by 5280.

    Activating this ability removes all snares and immobilizations from you and grants immunity to them for 4 seconds.

    It makes sense if you are "pure lighting" you should be immune to snares and roots

    Would need to be careful how this works. Could get permanent immunity with this and that would be imbalanced.

  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Illuvatarr wrote: »
    Anyron wrote: »
    Boundless storm

    Manifest yourself as pure lighting, zapping nearby enemies with electricity dealing XXX Shock Damage every 1 second for 23 seconds.

    While in this form you also gain Major Resolve and Major Ward, increasing your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance by 5280.

    Activating this ability removes all snares and immobilizations from you and grants immunity to them for 4 seconds.

    It makes sense if you are "pure lighting" you should be immune to snares and roots

    Would need to be careful how this works. Could get permanent immunity with this and that would be imbalanced.

    Boundless Storm isn't much cheaper than Forward Momentum.

    However, if cheap perma immunity is what you worry about, then let's put it on Bolt Escape + Morphs, maybe shorten the immunity so the fatigue outlasts the immunity.
  • Illuvatarr
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    Illuvatarr wrote: »
    Anyron wrote: »
    Boundless storm

    Manifest yourself as pure lighting, zapping nearby enemies with electricity dealing XXX Shock Damage every 1 second for 23 seconds.

    While in this form you also gain Major Resolve and Major Ward, increasing your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance by 5280.

    Activating this ability removes all snares and immobilizations from you and grants immunity to them for 4 seconds.

    It makes sense if you are "pure lighting" you should be immune to snares and roots

    Would need to be careful how this works. Could get permanent immunity with this and that would be imbalanced.

    Boundless Storm isn't much cheaper than Forward Momentum.

    However, if cheap perma immunity is what you worry about, then let's put it on Bolt Escape + Morphs, maybe shorten the immunity so the fatigue outlasts the immunity.

    I’m kinda zen. I like balance.

  • Tasear
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    Icarus42 wrote: »
    The entire class needs to be reworked. Mines aren't worth slotting neither is overload, encase, or BoL. Dark exchange gets you killed. Everyone complains about mages fury cause it steals kills. Streak has a delay and will get you killed in lag situations. Twilights stupid wings covering my screen.
    Honestly the one thing that I thought ZoS would change for the good was overload. I asked simply for them to remove the weapons when you have it toggled on and what did they do?? They removed the weapons only when you cast it, why ZoS why?
    There are soooo many things wrong with this class right now it is absurd!!
    Anyway if I had 1 choice it would be to get rid of streak cost increase, that is the least they can do sheesh!!

    How have you experienced dark exchange getting you killed.
  • Alsaroth
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    Skill: Summon (any of the morphed summon skills).
    Change: Lasts two hours and won't de-spawn when changing bars.
  • Alsaroth
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    I’d change the dumb flappy wings pet into a whisp so the pet sorcs couldn’t block the writ turn in boxes.

    That's a thing? And it annoys people? Whoa! Gonna do just that :smiley:
  • Toc de Malsvi
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    If playing the what if game, why likit yourself to one skill?
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  • Sypherioth
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    Qwazz wrote: »
    Add a stun back to crystal frag.

    For real... 6-8k dmg in BG from single target non ulti and you want it to stun again… lol
  • Odovacar
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    More control over pets (less wonky; uncontrolled). Possibly a marker indicator that could be placed on a specific enemies or mob that would direct them with a hold back/restrain toggle option.
  • Icarus42
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    Because if you think about it after all the other nerfs is the cost increase to streak still actually necessary?
    Tasear wrote: »
    Icarus42 wrote: »
    The entire class needs to be reworked. Mines aren't worth slotting neither is overload, encase, or BoL. Dark exchange gets you killed. Everyone complains about mages fury cause it steals kills. Streak has a delay and will get you killed in lag situations. Twilights stupid wings covering my screen.
    Honestly the one thing that I thought ZoS would change for the good was overload. I asked simply for them to remove the weapons when you have it toggled on and what did they do?? They removed the weapons only when you cast it, why ZoS why?
    There are soooo many things wrong with this class right now it is absurd!!
    Anyway if I had 1 choice it would be to get rid of streak cost increase, that is the least they can do sheesh!!

    How have you experienced dark exchange getting you killed.

    The answer runs a little deeper than dark exchange getting me killed. I mainly pvp and right now you have two choices really for a class heal twilight and dark exchange. I don't enjoy twilight and I am stubbornly trying to make my non pet sorc work. Dark exchange in a heavy combat situation even when running shackle breaker or bloodspawn gets you dead because of the delay even spammed with shield or gets you cc'd dead. If you can los its ok in some situations.. The thing I don't get about it is that sorcs already have a low stam pool so why keep the delay when the cost of stamina is the deterrent for spamming it over and over.
    Its also hard to slot dark exchange when you can put two shields and boundless on the backbar still trying to maintain damage on the front. It is simply not enticing as it is not reliable against most opponents who can interrupt and cc you while you are waving your hand in the air. A shield is more reliable for defense against burst builds exchange has in those instances gotten me killed hence I do not slot it anymore. Twilight right now seems the way to go.. I have tried 2 shield, mutagen rapids with one shield, and 2 shields with exchange. Twilight being at no. 1 and exchange being dead last IMO.
    To fully answer your question being interrupted while casting, and the delay between casting another ability are the two main culprits. Also as a side note I don't like the feeling of having to slot twilight in order to be competitive, we should have other viable heals within our own class abilities IMO.
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  • JediCodyTwitter
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    Tasear wrote: »
    For me would like negate to "absorb" and give a small percentage to allies resources or reduction of damage over time used during Bubble.

    I feel like what you said is actually quite genius. Perhaps give the morphs an option that, while keeping the stun:

    1. Drop the heal and adds resource return for group standing within.

    2. Drop the damage and increases damage for those standing within.

    I'm not spending a lot of time thinking about the initial question and am running with what I found to be a profound idea from the OP's thoughts for simplicity's sake.

    Edited by JediCodyTwitter on March 12, 2019 10:55PM
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