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HALP PLZ! Best defensive set for a magicka Warden???
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Defilted✭✭✭✭✭
✭You can run Might Chudans and run two offensive 5 piece sets. You get plenty of Ult from shimmer shield, you don't need blood spawn.XBOX NA
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Adenoma✭✭✭✭✭
✭Armor Master@CatchMeTrolling , I have barely played since the new patch. I was running AM/blood spawn, necro, and master lightning destro/resto last patch.Adenoma-Badenoma-Sadenoma0 -
Amksed1991✭✭✭devilsTear wrote: »Amksed1991 wrote: »Why wouldn't you just run Fortified Brass and get the resists passively instead so you don't have to dedicate 1 Armor Ability for thr 5K resists.
Because your more tanky that way.
200 resistance and 5% more health (700) for 1 ability?
Sounds like a terrible trade.1 -
CatchMeTrolling✭✭✭✭✭
✭CatchMeTrolling , I have barely played since the new patch. I was running AM/blood spawn, necro, and master lightning destro/resto last patch.
Well Necropotence got a little buff this patch so it’s better now.
But if you’re running master weapons it’s not going to constantly be up if it’s on your back bar. So I’d run sets that don’t require two bars . You have the right idea with trans and lich, though lich probably isn’t needed. Spell power cure is also a nice back bar set.
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Adenoma✭✭✭✭✭
✭Armor Master@CatchMeTrolling , necro is always up and armor master is procced off of back bar harness magicka. Both sets are active always with that gearing.Adenoma-Badenoma-Sadenoma0 -
Adenoma✭✭✭✭✭
✭Armor Master@Amksed1991 , the advantage of armor master is that you get to keep that buff while running a master lightning staff for a cheap spammable and AOE pressure. The buff carries across bars and lets you keep up two 5 piece sets plus a monster set. Fortified brass doesn’t let you do that. Harness magicka is basically free sustain.Adenoma-Badenoma-Sadenoma0 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Buffer of the SwiftWow, some wardens aren’t wearing defensive sets? Hopefully not the ones complaining about NB burst. /rolls eyesLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten1 -
devilsTear✭✭✭Armor MasterAmksed1991 wrote: »devilsTear wrote: »Amksed1991 wrote: »Why wouldn't you just run Fortified Brass and get the resists passively instead so you don't have to dedicate 1 Armor Ability for thr 5K resists.
Because your more tanky that way.
200 resistance and 5% more health (700) for 1 ability?
Sounds like a terrible trade.@Amksed1991 , the advantage of armor master is that you get to keep that buff while running a master lightning staff for a cheap spammable and AOE pressure. The buff carries across bars and lets you keep up two 5 piece sets plus a monster set. Fortified brass doesn’t let you do that. Harness magicka is basically free sustain.
^^ this, also if you gonna run a shield you might as well make the most of it.Edited by devilsTear on March 12, 2019 12:03AM0 -
Sypherioth✭✭✭DTStormfox wrote: »You don't need a defensive set for Magwarden
I'm a bg player first and foremost. You're not going to fare very well in high mmr bgs if you play magicka and don't use any defensive sets.
Indeed because sadly resist is king these days. Stack that *** to 30k and you have an effective 15-20k armor. Better then going in light or medium and have 8-12k when everyone basicly ignores that… Use some impreg to top it off and your meta...
I don't find it much fun tho. I rather have the high risk high reward. More thrilling if you ask me.0 -
Trancestor✭✭✭✭✭otherDefinitely do need a defensive set these days on any class or at least 3 protective jewlery, every pug has too much dmg now especially the deticated zerglings.1
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CatchMeTrolling✭✭✭✭✭
✭Trancestor wrote: »Definitely do need a defensive set these days on any class or at least 3 protective jewlery, every pug has too much dmg now especially the deticated zerglings.
Depends on the class and player. Although I'm running impreg and trans on my magplar at the moment I don’t necessarily need it, known for running “glass” builds. Think it’s more of an experience thing. It definitely does make things easier to deal with for sure but playing in light & medium for the longest I can say you get so accustomed to “glass” to the point it’s not glass to you. I mean I even seen players like Jack Daniels run some pretty squishy builds. A lot of deaths can be avoided by proactively healing, movement and keeping buffs up.
I would recommend defense sets to people who have trouble staying alive or new to the game. But I still think magden already has enough mitigation, healing and utility in their kit to drop a defense set. Armor master is the exception for those that are relying on shields.
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Trancestor✭✭✭✭✭otherCatchMeTrolling wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »Definitely do need a defensive set these days on any class or at least 3 protective jewlery, every pug has too much dmg now especially the deticated zerglings.
Depends on the class and player. Although I'm running impreg and trans on my magplar at the moment I don’t necessarily need it, known for running “glass” builds. Think it’s more of an experience thing. It definitely does make things easier to deal with for sure but playing in light & medium for the longest I can say you get so accustomed to “glass” to the point it’s not glass to you. I mean I even seen players like Jack Daniels run some pretty squishy builds. A lot of deaths can be avoided by proactively healing, movement and keeping buffs up.
I would recommend defense sets to people who have trouble staying alive or new to the game. But I still think magden already has enough mitigation, healing and utility in their kit to drop a defense set. Armor master is the exception for those that are relying on shields.
Depends on the platform/server i guess, on pc eu vivec you go up against mostly the same zergling groups running deticated xv1 builds, with a jackdaniels build/playstyle you might run away but you probably wont kill anything.2 -
Mojomonkeyman✭✭✭✭✭
✭Steadfast HeroImo Steadfast Hero is the only set listed (theres more, but they are not listed here) that allows light armor solo/smallscale/bg play without harness/dampen and mist. So anyone not playing the generic copypaste Master/Necro + x shenanigans will obviously have different experience when rating survival sets.
I personally ignore resists completely (I am running around in 12-14k max on both) since forever and think they are way overrated due to being vulnerable to the very prominent bleed stacking. The formidable support and defensive qualities of the mag warden toolset basically make dampen/harness a low efficiency choice, since none of the class passives reward you for using it (apart from being completely selfish skill).
That means, a build using Harness, Mist and sometimes double barred Inner Light has already 3-4 "dead" skills when you want to get the most out of the class toolkit.
Also, im convinced that theres a huge difference in viability of playstyles between (PC) EU and NA.
Just my 2 cent.Edited by Mojomonkeyman on March 12, 2019 8:04AMKoma Grey, Chocolate Thunder, Little Mojo, Dagoth Mojo & Mojomancy0 -
CompM4s✭✭✭✭✭Armor MasterAmksed1991 wrote: »But on a Magicka Warden you don't really want to spend 4K Stamina on an Resistance Ability. Could just use Wardens ability for the 5K resistance.
And if you back bar it, don't you only receive the 5% health if you are on that bar?
I feel like I would rather have Ice Fortress which will also give me 8% Minor Protection over the 5% health bonus which also costs Magicka over Stamina. That 8% damage reduction will easily out perform the 1K (ish) extra health you receive from Armor Master.
So yea, my vote is Fortified Brass over Armor Master.
The backbar of armor master is better not because of the health buff. Armor master allows you to back bar annulment which is very strong on your s&b while blocking. Also it allows you to run a master destro staff front bar which really helps with dps as a spamable. Fortified brass comes no where near as good as armor master.0 -
CompM4s✭✭✭✭✭Armor Master@CatchMeTrolling , what’re you running instead? I’m not overly sure of what to back bar besides Lich/transmutation if I’m running master’s Lightning.
If you are running master's lightning, I would run necro on your body and willpower jewelry. With a random Restro staff back bar that provides mag recovery for the 2 piece.
If running willpower it would probably be better to run maelstrom resto on backbar instead if a random regen resto.0 -
Amksed1991✭✭✭Okay, that makes more sense.
If you are wearing Light Armor than it is good to go with Armor Master on back bar with Frost Master Staff or 1H/Shield 5pc.
I was basing Brass vs Armor Master /w Heavy in mind, not Light.0 -
mursie✭✭✭✭✭Steadfast Herosteadfast - you have a no cost condition removal spammable ability you will be using anyways... that will now give you major protection.1
