Trancestor wrote: »

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Trancestor wrote: »

Hist Sap, you didnt hear that from me.

Really? I use it with my magplar to duel DKs. Never for anything else for whatever reason.

If its effective in a duel why wouldnt it be effective outnumbered in open world where you are snared 24/7 anyway?

Burst. Some things are not healable, healing amount is almost irrelevant. If three people are beating on you hist sap won’t do much.

Iskiab wrote: »

Buffer of the swift. Half the sets listed are healing/sustain sets and not defensive sets.

Not sure if serious or just...nvm old meme is old.

I haven’t experimented with whether or not it’s worth ditching master’s Lightning to run two 5 pieces always, but if you’re running that setup I like armor master. I may try out something like BRP resto back bar, spinner front, and hist sap body with blood spawn.

I’ve enjoyed running hist before. Otherwise, I really like at least the concept of running back bar BRP ice staff for pulsar and wall of ice, then front bar a damage set like spinners. You can run that with necro and a couple protective jewels or just go balls to the wall damage. The charged ice staff is legit and the BRP dot + wall + minor mangle puts a lot of pressure on opponents.

DTStormfox wrote: »

You don't need a defensive set for Magwarden

I'm a bg player first and foremost. You're not going to fare very well in high mmr bgs if you play magicka and don't use any defensive sets.

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

_Ahala_ wrote: »

Buffer of the Swift is a flat 10% damage reduction now... it was changed in Wrathstone

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

Buffer of the swift. Half the sets listed are healing/sustain sets and not defensive sets.

Not sure if serious or just...nvm old meme is old.

If i wasn't aware of that, i wouldn't have mentioned the set at all. The old buffer of the swift was garbage. The new one is very good.

Ah, I see... sorry for the misunderstanding. I should’ve have read that a bit closer

Amksed1991 wrote: »

Wouldn't Fortified Brass > Armor Master?

Fortified Brass
(2 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(3 items) Adds 2975 Physical Resistance
(4 items) Adds 2975 Spell Resistance.
(5 items) Adds 5170 Physical Resistance and 5170 Spell Resistance.

Armor Master
(2 items) Adds 1206 Maximum Health
(3 items) Adds 2975 Physical Resistance
(4 items) Adds 2975 Spell Resistance
(5 items) While you have an Armor Ability slotted, your Maximum Health is increased by 5%. When you use an Armor Ability, your Physical and Spell Resistance is increased by 5332 for 10 seconds.

Armor Master has more resistance, and 5% health translates to about 1.1-1.3k more health.

I still don't see how Armor Master is better than Steadfast though. 5332 = 8% dmg reduction. Steadfast is 30% dmg reduction, it's going to apply to bleeds and oblivion dmg, and free to proc. Lower uptime, but 30% less dmg half the time > 8% less dmg all the time.

But on a Magicka Warden you don't really want to spend 4K Stamina on an Resistance Ability. Could just use Wardens ability for the 5K resistance.

And if you back bar it, don't you only receive the 5% health if you are on that bar?

I feel like I would rather have Ice Fortress which will also give me 8% Minor Protection over the 5% health bonus which also costs Magicka over Stamina. That 8% damage reduction will easily out perform the 1K (ish) extra health you receive from Armor Master.

So yea, my vote is Fortified Brass over Armor Master.

Amksed1991 wrote: »

But on a Magicka Warden you don't really want to spend 4K Stamina on an Resistance Ability. Could just use Wardens ability for the 5K resistance.

And if you back bar it, don't you only receive the 5% health if you are on that bar?

I feel like I would rather have Ice Fortress which will also give me 8% Minor Protection over the 5% health bonus which also costs Magicka over Stamina. That 8% damage reduction will easily out perform the 1K (ish) extra health you receive from Armor Master.

So yea, my vote is Fortified Brass over Armor Master.

You don't use shuffle but the light armour shield. You stack the resistance you get from armour master with ice fortress. Like others said, armour master backbar with a master staff front bar is the way to go if you wanna build tanky.

Why wouldn't you just run Fortified Brass and get the resists passively instead so you don't have to dedicate 1 Armor Ability for thr 5K resists.

@CatchMeTrolling , what’re you running instead? I’m not overly sure of what to back bar besides Lich/transmutation if I’m running master’s Lightning.

I run Necro and Bright Throat with bloodspawn. No need for any other defensive sets with the magden's toolkit. Just making sure you have a solid mag pool and a shield.