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Need an aoe disarm similar to negate magic
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Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Ragnarock41 wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Totally agree on this. Negate Magic needs an equivalent for Stamina.
Whaaaaat? Why should we end the favoritism towards stam?
Except stamina spent years being completely useless and irrelevant. Until this dual wield meta appeared they were simply rapid monkeys in PvP raids, and when DW and stamden gets its nerfs they won't even be able to go back to being rapid monkeys because well rapid is nerfed.
You know, there's still 2h and Bow. It's not like just DW Bleed builds are overperforming. The advantages of Stamina builds in PvP are quite remarkable. I just think it would be fair to have something that actively counters the roll dodge / Stamina playstyle when there's something identical for Magicka.
2h/bow is painfully bad and inferior , in all honesty, I don't see stamina being played at all if not for SnB and dual wield. Both bow and 2 hander lack proper means of dealing damage in a fight.0 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Ragnarock41 wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Totally agree on this. Negate Magic needs an equivalent for Stamina.
Whaaaaat? Why should we end the favoritism towards stam?
Except stamina spent years being completely useless and irrelevant. Until this dual wield meta appeared they were simply rapid monkeys in PvP raids, and when DW and stamden gets its nerfs they won't even be able to go back to being rapid monkeys because well rapid is nerfed.
You know, there's still 2h and Bow. It's not like just DW Bleed builds are overperforming. The advantages of Stamina builds in PvP are quite remarkable. I just think it would be fair to have something that actively counters the roll dodge / Stamina playstyle when there's something identical for Magicka.
2h/bow is painfully bad and inferior , in all honesty, I don't see stamina being played at all if not for SnB and dual wield. Both bow and 2 hander lack proper means of dealing damage in a fight.
That's just the case because of DW Bleeds and Spin 2 Win overperforming a lot.
Compare 2h/Bow to Destro Staff. Magicka weapon(s) are pretty bad in comparison, thank good some classes can rely on good class Magicka skills.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -2 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »Ragnarock41 wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Ragnarock41 wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Totally agree on this. Negate Magic needs an equivalent for Stamina.
Whaaaaat? Why should we end the favoritism towards stam?
Except stamina spent years being completely useless and irrelevant. Until this dual wield meta appeared they were simply rapid monkeys in PvP raids, and when DW and stamden gets its nerfs they won't even be able to go back to being rapid monkeys because well rapid is nerfed.
You know, there's still 2h and Bow. It's not like just DW Bleed builds are overperforming. The advantages of Stamina builds in PvP are quite remarkable. I just think it would be fair to have something that actively counters the roll dodge / Stamina playstyle when there's something identical for Magicka.
2h/bow is painfully bad and inferior , in all honesty, I don't see stamina being played at all if not for SnB and dual wield. Both bow and 2 hander lack proper means of dealing damage in a fight.
That's just the case because of DW Bleeds and Spin 2 Win overperforming a lot.
Compare 2h/Bow to Destro Staff. Magicka weapon(s) are pretty bad in comparison, thank good some classes can rely on good class Magicka skills.
Nope, Its 2h and bow being weak. Magicka classes get strong class abilities to begin with, its not a fair comparission since you can use any weapon with your class abilities. Weapon abilities/passives are not that way. Sure your average stamblade will make both bow and 2h work, but they too get extremely strong class morphs. So its fair to say that stamblades are literally ''green magicka''. They are what happens when you take the best of both worlds.Edited by Ragnarock41 on March 8, 2019 8:42PM0 -
Ajax_22✭✭✭✭✭It doesn't even need to be worked into any class. The best way to introduce an ultimate like this would be to move Warhorn to the Undaunted line as an ultimate, and make this the new Assault ultimate.2 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It doesn't even need to be worked into any class. The best way to introduce an ultimate like this would be to move Warhorn to the Undaunted line as an ultimate, and make this the new Assault ultimate.
This is the perfect solution and so easy to do.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
Digiman✭✭✭✭✭yes nothing like being locked out of both spells and abilities at the same time forced to wait till you can attack again... seems fun.
Imagine negate and disarm bombs on everyone....
Also sorcerer having it might work because it would be an ultimate. But if its an ability I am not convinced, since it would be spammed non stopped.
maybe a proc set.0 -
Kova✭✭✭✭✭In the spirit of the recent pts patch notes which will most likely go live, I'm necroing this thread!
We need a disarm effect. One that doesn't get added to silence, as that would wreck pve melee dps.
Not only will this add more counterplay in big battles involving blobs of stamina users healing with their "totally not magic bro, trust me" vigors and warden mushrooms, it would also make resource fights less one sided as currently the guards can only silence magicka users, which often tips the scale in the defenders favor.EP Sorc: Aydinn
AD Stamplar: Verdant`Knight
DC Stamblade: Apple`Punch
EP Stam Sorc: Kós
AD DragonKnight: Transmigrant
EP NIghtblade: Aydinn0 -
usmcjdking✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Put it on Standard of Might, and only Standard of Might.
Unstable Core might be a candidate as well provided you remove the "thorns" mechanic entirely, and it only activates once it explodes.Edited by usmcjdking on May 8, 2019 12:20AM0331
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Kova✭✭✭✭✭I can agree with that. Sorcs and nbs shouldn't have both versions and dks could be a great utility again.EP Sorc: Aydinn
AD Stamplar: Verdant`Knight
DC Stamblade: Apple`Punch
EP Stam Sorc: Kós
AD DragonKnight: Transmigrant
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Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭If they do make an ultimate like this it should be the assault line and move dawnbreaker to undaunted as someone else mentioned. The other option would be Templars since it fits their theme and are a bit weak in pvp right now.
All the other suggestions seem like ‘add it to my class’ suggestions.Edited by Iskiab on May 8, 2019 12:32AMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
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Illuvatarr✭✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Ragnarock41 wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »Totally agree on this. Negate Magic needs an equivalent for Stamina.
Whaaaaat? Why should we end the favoritism towards stam?
Except stamina spent years being completely useless and irrelevant. Until this dual wield meta appeared they were simply rapid monkeys in PvP raids, and when DW and stamden gets its nerfs they won't even be able to go back to being rapid monkeys because well rapid is nerfed.
You know, there's still 2h and Bow. It's not like just DW Bleed builds are overperforming. The advantages of Stamina builds in PvP are quite remarkable. I just think it would be fair to have something that actively counters the roll dodge / Stamina playstyle when there's something identical for Magicka.
2h/bow is painfully bad and inferior , in all honesty, I don't see stamina being played at all if not for SnB and dual wield. Both bow and 2 hander lack proper means of dealing damage in a fight.
Is this a serious post? 2h/bow lack proper means of dealing damage? What a garbage post man.
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✭I can always come to the forums for a good laugh.
Terrible suggestions in forums and terrible decisions by ZoS and people subsequently complaining? Coincidence? I think not!Hey everyone! Look! It's a signature!0