Skyshard Achieve Requirement Nonsense

Wildberryjack · March 2019

ZOS, would you please remove Cyrodiil from this achieve? I notice you do NOT have Craglorn part of it and that is a "specialty" area like Cyrodiil is. I have yet to zone into any battle and the enemy factions areas are accessible to get to the skyshards behind the gates. Not once. This is absurd. If Craglorn isn't part of this achieve then Cyrodiil shouldn't be either.

Ertosi · March 2019

No thank you. It's more fun with a few of the skyshards being so hard to get and makes the achievement all the better once you finish it. Thousands before you have earned it, you can too. Let's not cheapen their accomplishment for the gimmie-gimmie crowd.

Sylvermynx · March 2019

*shrug* I don't get the whole achievement thing.

Osteos · March 2019

It really isn't all that hard and contrary to popular belief on the forums there aren't stealthed snipers hiding behind every rock in Cryodiil.

BlueRaven · March 2019

Wildberryjack wrote: »

ZOS, would you please remove Cyrodiil from this achieve? I notice you do NOT have Craglorn part of it and that is a "specialty" area like Cyrodiil is. I have yet to zone into any battle and the enemy factions areas are accessible to get to the skyshards behind the gates. Not once. This is absurd. If Craglorn isn't part of this achieve then Cyrodiil shouldn't be either.

I believe the achievement for getting the sky shards pre-existed the introduction of Craglorn. That is why the Craglorn sky shards are not on the achievement.

bongtokin420insd16 · March 2019

lol i got all the shards from cyro in one long night, and a little early morning strat for the gated ones. Not even hard.

BlueRaven · March 2019

bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »

lol i got all the shards from cyro in one long night, and a little early morning strat for the gated ones. Not even hard.

I think when the game was new it was pretty easy to get the shards (that is when I got them). Today though it is a matter of timing and being lucky.

The best I can tell the OP is to monitor Cyrodil closely and if it looks like your faction is making a push for a scroll try to get on asap.
That is the best advice I can give if you are not into PvP.

Mudcrabber · March 2019

In your Social settings, change "AvA Announcements" from "Automatic" to "Always Show", so you're notified even when you're outside of Cyrodiil.

Then whenever you get a "gate is open" notification, drop whatever you're doing and get over there.

Taleof2Cities · March 2019

Achievements by definition are for “achieving” something ... they are not handouts.

Sera67 · March 2019

You need get Imp anyway... so nabbing skyshards isn't to bad really.

Sotha sil on ps4 flips almost every morning... doesnt take much effort get them. XD

If this topic was about fishing trophy, I would be all over it....
I just finished it few days ago.... and that was worst 2 years, let alone worst 2 weeks. The quick bite food doesnt seem work for non-summerset users. >_<

fullheartcontainer · March 2019

Wildberryjack wrote: »

ZOS, would you please remove Cyrodiil from this achieve? I notice you do NOT have Craglorn part of it and that is a "specialty" area like Cyrodiil is. I have yet to zone into any battle and the enemy factions areas are accessible to get to the skyshards behind the gates. Not once. This is absurd. If Craglorn isn't part of this achieve then Cyrodiil shouldn't be either.

Craglorn was an expansion zone. It wasn't base game. Cyrodiil was

bongtokin420insd16 · March 2019

FYI i got mine this month.

Remember, your faction doesn't have to control teh gate, it just has to be open. So if AD gates DC your EP character can still go get the shards, just watch for AD. All of the gated ones i got when my alliance was not in charge.

Zacuel · March 2019

I remember my very last skyshard for that achievement.

It was the one in the center of the imperial sewers. A group of blue berries must have been farming molag Bal at the time.

Though it was more entertaining to splode me (prior to getting gud) as I ran for the skyshard and teabagging me.

On the third or fourth attempt I popped an invis pot and ran for it.

I got the shard before getting zerged down.

Now,. Don't take that struggle away from me.

I earnt that!!

BlueRaven · March 2019

Zacuel wrote: »

I remember my very last skyshard for that achievement.

It was the one in the center of the imperial sewers. A group of blue berries must have been farming molag Bal at the time.

Though it was more entertaining to splode me (prior to getting gud) as I ran for the skyshard and teabagging me.

On the third or fourth attempt I popped an invis pot and ran for it.

I got the shard before getting zerged down.

Now,. Don't take that struggle away from me.

I earnt that!!

While on at least one of my characters I do have all the sky shards in the game, I am pretty certain the sky shards in imperial city are not needed for the achievement.

Zacuel · March 2019

BlueRaven wrote: »

Zacuel wrote: »

I remember my very last skyshard for that achievement.

It was the one in the center of the imperial sewers. A group of blue berries must have been farming molag Bal at the time.

Though it was more entertaining to splode me (prior to getting gud) as I ran for the skyshard and teabagging me.

On the third or fourth attempt I popped an invis pot and ran for it.

I got the shard before getting zerged down.

Now,. Don't take that struggle away from me.

I earnt that!!

While on at least one of my characters I do have all the sky shards in the game, I am pretty certain the sky shards in imperial city are not needed for the achievement.

Lol you know what? You're probably right.

Still though!

The principle of it ...

wnights · March 2019

They're not that hard to get though... yes runnig around the map can take a very long time but it's not hard. And if you're afraid you'll be killed just log into a less populated compaign

Mayrael · March 2019

Tip to get the ones behind gates:
Check the campaigns late at night or early morning. Usually night/morning capers are taking whole Cyrodiil thus opening some of the gates.

swippy · March 2019

OP, you don't have to actually "zone in" to read the map in Cyrodiil. it'll show you the current state of your home campaign just by zooming the map like you do any other zone. if your luck's not good or you just can't hit certain times of the day, then zoning in to guest campaigns is still an option. each one will be different.

and that's just if you're trying to be as unobtrusive as possible, for whatever reason. it's a warzone! gather a group and go change the map as a team. you probably won't succeed fully on your first try, but then you just try again (enemy player kills don't damage your armor, so you're not out gold on repairs).

some people find the achievement rewarding. other people just don't feel like achieving it.

lagrue · March 2019

Wildberryjack wrote: »

ZOS, would you please remove Cyrodiil from this achieve? I notice you do NOT have Craglorn part of it and that is a "specialty" area like Cyrodiil is. I have yet to zone into any battle and the enemy factions areas are accessible to get to the skyshards behind the gates. Not once. This is absurd. If Craglorn isn't part of this achieve then Cyrodiil shouldn't be either.

That's because Craglorn didn't exist yet at that point....

FilteredRiddle · March 2019

I’ve had the “earn all skyshards” achievement since the 3rd or 4th month the game was out. If you really want it, you’ll get it; it’s not that hard...

driosketch · March 2019

I feel ya OP, I have the achievement but I'm trying to grab the last two AD skyshards on an alt. Really it's just about getting the timing right. I stayed up late on Sat, but the sides were balanced and the bridges all destroyed. Logged in Sun evening and my alliance already had everyone's scrolls and emp. So I missed a chance, it happens. You just need to keep watching, and eventually it will line up with your play time.

AlnilamE · March 2019

BlueRaven wrote: »

bongtokin420insd16 wrote: »

lol i got all the shards from cyro in one long night, and a little early morning strat for the gated ones. Not even hard.

I think when the game was new it was pretty easy to get the shards (that is when I got them). Today though it is a matter of timing and being lucky.

The best I can tell the OP is to monitor Cyrodil closely and if it looks like your faction is making a push for a scroll try to get on asap.
That is the best advice I can give if you are not into PvP.

I actually parked my lowbie in the sub-50 campaign where she feeds her horse and I check the map every time I log in. I'm down to missing one skyshard behind a gate (I haven't gotten any other skyshards in Cyrodiil yet.)

I also have my DC character parked in another campaign as he's leveling enchanting and I do the same, as I wait for the EP gates to be open.

And I already have those skyshards on at least 3 characters.

Wildberryjack · March 2019

Mudcrabber wrote: »

In your Social settings, change "AvA Announcements" from "Automatic" to "Always Show", so you're notified even when you're outside of Cyrodiil.

Then whenever you get a "gate is open" notification, drop whatever you're doing and get over there.

Thank you, that will help. I don't PvP but don't care if my toon gets killed in there, it's just pixels. I got the fishing achieve there so LOL. It's just every time I check my faction barely holds more than their own two main bases. If some of the skyshards weren't locked behind those stupid gates I wouldn't care.

I didn't know Craglorn was added later, TY for that info. Still, why is a PvP zone part of this achieve at all? It should not be.

Alpheu5 · March 2019

Zacuel wrote: »

I remember my very last skyshard for that achievement.

It was the one in the center of the imperial sewers. A group of blue berries must have been farming molag Bal at the time.

Though it was more entertaining to splode me (prior to getting gud) as I ran for the skyshard and teabagging me.

On the third or fourth attempt I popped an invis pot and ran for it.

I got the shard before getting zerged down.

Now,. Don't take that struggle away from me.

I earnt that!!

The IC sewer skyshards aren't needed for Tamriel Skyshard Hunter.

Knootewoot · March 2019

Wildberryjack wrote: »

Mudcrabber wrote: »

In your Social settings, change "AvA Announcements" from "Automatic" to "Always Show", so you're notified even when you're outside of Cyrodiil.

Then whenever you get a "gate is open" notification, drop whatever you're doing and get over there.

Thank you, that will help. I don't PvP but don't care if my toon gets killed in there, it's just pixels. I got the fishing achieve there so LOL. It's just every time I check my faction barely holds more than their own two main bases. If some of the skyshards weren't locked behind those stupid gates I wouldn't care.

I didn't know Craglorn was added later, TY for that info. Still, why is a PvP zone part of this achieve at all? It should not be.

Well, i don't see why not. All the skyshards of the entire original game were counted, aswell as all the dolmens of the dolmen achievement. Why seperate PvP and PvE in this? I don't see the point.
The skyshards of Cyrodill are not really hard to get tbh. Most of us done it during the haydays of Cyrodill when it was literally packed with players and had no problems back then. Now the servers are pretty dead and you have to be lucky to be spotted by an enemy when not near a keep.
Also it is called an achievement because you really achieved something. PvE skyshards should be called.. "meh, you probably installed an addon for them."

Anyway, if you need help getting some hit me ingame if you PC-EU. I think the dungeons are fun for those shards and we could also kill some bosses if you want.

AlnilamE · March 2019

Wildberryjack wrote: »

Mudcrabber wrote: »

In your Social settings, change "AvA Announcements" from "Automatic" to "Always Show", so you're notified even when you're outside of Cyrodiil.

Then whenever you get a "gate is open" notification, drop whatever you're doing and get over there.

Thank you, that will help. I don't PvP but don't care if my toon gets killed in there, it's just pixels. I got the fishing achieve there so LOL. It's just every time I check my faction barely holds more than their own two main bases. If some of the skyshards weren't locked behind those stupid gates I wouldn't care.

I didn't know Craglorn was added later, TY for that info. Still, why is a PvP zone part of this achieve at all? It should not be.

Make sure that you go with a horse that has at least 30 stamina, and that you have some immovability potions. First time I tried my lowbie through the AD gates she got knocked off by the guards and they killed her before she got away. Waited another week or so and got it just this weekend.

TheShadowScout · March 2019

Wildberryjack wrote: »

I notice you do NOT have Craglorn part of it...

...because craglorn was added -later- while cyrodil was part of ESO from the start?

Osteos wrote: »

It really isn't all that hard and contrary to popular belief on the forums there aren't stealthed snipers hiding behind every rock in Cryodiil.

Indeed.
Yeah, it takes a bit of time, but it is a -good- thing to have people experience different things! (which is why they made it this way I presume - to lure the habitual PvE lovers into cyrodil, give them a taste of PvP, and thus have them at least know what its about in ESO...) Even getting ganked now and then, or having to tag along with a warband bent on scroll capture to get past the gates for those two skyshards each locked behind enemy fortifications...
And just like PvPlayers have to go do a lot of PvE to get all the stuff for various achievements, PvE enthusiasts may have to stick their toe into a little PvP to get some achievements, like skyshards or or dwelve clearings...
...and its not that big a deal to do, just pick a campaign where your alliance owns the map, bring friends and/or sneak a lot... don't worry about getting ganked, if it happens, just respawn and go into some other corner!

VaranisArano · March 2019

This is one example where ZOS wants you to complete ALL of the base game if you want the achievements/rewards for completing ALL of the base game.

Its also one of a myriad examples where ZOS wants you to go into PVP zones if you want ALL of the rewards. Master Angler. the dolmen achievement, the 5th year Anniversary, etc.

Its also of great benefit for ZOS to get players to at least try out being in a PVP zone, when they deliberately balance PVP and PVE together, benefiting from a knowledgeable playerbase with at least some experience with both.

In short, this is a feature, not a bug.

But to elaborate...

I became a PVPer because of Master Angler.

No joke. I was a PVE-only player who hated the thought of PVP. But I really wanted that Master Angler title! Which meant having to go into the dreaded PVP-land.

Eventually the desire for those fish overcame my dread. I ventured out, got lost, died to slaughterfish, got ganked on the shores of Lake Rumare, got lost on the way to the ocean holes down by the AD gates, hid out right in the shadow of those gates, and eventually got those fish and left with a sigh of relief swearing never to return.

LOL. Then, I wanted skyshards. Back I went, a little less afraid this time.

Eventually, I decided to try PVP for its own sake. I sucked. I got better. I found a PVP guild that took me in, trained me, and gave me a great group of people to play with on a regular basis. Because of Master Angler - because ZOS gated rewards for doing ALL of the base game behind Cyrodiil's PVP zone - I became a PVP where I never would have given it the chance otherwise.

Not everyone has that journey. Some people try PVP and never like it - my SO for one. But for me? ZOS' design of gating content and rewards behind different game modes so that players try out those game modes worked. It is no lie to say I've play the game longer and with more enjoyment because of learning to play PVP purely because of ZOS' strategy.

DeadlyRecluse · March 2019

Wildberryjack wrote: »

ZOS, would you please remove Cyrodiil from this achieve? I notice you do NOT have Craglorn part of it and that is a "specialty" area like Cyrodiil is. I have yet to zone into any battle and the enemy factions areas are accessible to get to the skyshards behind the gates. Not once. This is absurd. If Craglorn isn't part of this achieve then Cyrodiil shouldn't be either.

Craglorn isn't a "'specialty' area like Cyrodiil"--Craglorn isn't included because it didn't exist when the base game launched.

Turns out, to complete a lot of "complete all X in base game," you have to do it in ALL the base game zones, not just ones you like. See: Master Angler, Delve achievements, etc.

validifyedneb18_ESO · March 2019

Wildberryjack wrote: »

ZOS, would you please remove Cyrodiil from this achieve? I notice you do NOT have Craglorn part of it and that is a "specialty" area like Cyrodiil is. I have yet to zone into any battle and the enemy factions areas are accessible to get to the skyshards behind the gates. Not once. This is absurd. If Craglorn isn't part of this achieve then Cyrodiil shouldn't be either.

The reason craglorn isnt in is because its an expansion zone.

Cyrodiil is part of the game, take your grand adventure to the land of PVP and nightblades, and claim your skyshards with skill.