My old guild would remark on how unlucky I was in the dungeon finder. I think I was cp 230 and I was doing the easiest veteran dungeons where that was enough. I had a tank want to kick me in the beginning and the healer vouched for me saying that we didnt even fight a single enemy. After the dungeon the tank sent me a whisper saying sorry and that there are so many bad low cp players and he was wrong.

But for every one of those experiences I got 10 where I zoned in and got booted right away.

I think is a toxic behavior. When i do veteran dungeons (I'm a 8xxCP Tank) and I'm being matched with people with 3xx or 4xxCP, i always give a try. I know maybe is time lost and etc, but i have to do it for the people.

Sadly till now is almost always a failure, but some easy dungeons are possible to do. Dungeons that i know are very difficult like Mazzatun, there i don't lose my time.

Raammzzaa wrote: »

As a tank, I have to say I only ever meet toxic DPS and healers! If directed toward me, it's usually because I am not running past all of the mobs, or keeping them alive when they run on without the group.

However, I can say that as a tank I am far less tolerant of toxicity than I was when playing before as a DPS. I am at CP cap, I have the dungeon achievements, a mess of keys, and I'm doing this for fun. Perhaps most importantly, as a tank I have an insta-que. So, if someone is going to be toxic and suck the fun out of a run (and we can't get rid of the toxic player), I will leave and join another group, while you wait around for another tank...

U only meet toxic dps and healers doing dungeons. As u have normally only one tank - thats u - and almost nobody thinks that he himself is toxic that statement is pretty self explanatory isnt it

IndyWendieGo wrote: »

Yeah, if they're vote kicking people lower than CP 810, they're probably not fun to run with anyways. If you get kicked by this guy? You've dodged a bullet.

Definitely. Count your blessings and move on to greener pastures.

LadySinflower wrote: »

It's threads like this that keep me out of dungeons and vet content. I'm about CP380. It's my first character so I had to learn everything from scratch. But I don't know mechanics, dungeon etiquette, or anything else because I'm intimidated by people who (just like in this thread) expect that if you're in there you know what to do. I queue as dps because that seems to be the least task specific role. I follow the lead of other players but I don't know who to run by vs who to stop and kill. You can't expect everybody to automatically know what your concept or even the general consensus is of how to play their role or what each mob/boss/situation requires to get through it. Nobody has ever tried to vote kick me from a dungeon but that's probably because I don't play them often. How are people supposed to learn what to do if they're in there with people who don't want them there unless they already know what to do? It's like the job that requires experience to get the job, but candidates can't get experience unless someone gives them a job.

Ask. You may be surprised how forthcoming some people are. Some consider it rude to offer unsolicited advice. And to be honest without trying to sound arrogant, outside of vet DLCs and a few isolated mechanics, your battle prowess, or lack thereof does little to shake my confidence of a clear. I assume if you wanted info you'd ask, otherwise you don't. If you run into someone obnoxious (while not the majority they do exist) go pick flowers for 15 minutes, they're not worth your time.

To answer your question, no, you wouldn't see a failed vote on you.

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

In recent pug pledges i cam across (a) tank(s) (maybe it was the same?) that immediatly wanted to kick everyone from the group that wasn't cp 810 - even people that had like cp 805 (not kidding); and when the group declined he immediatly left the group - happend a couple times... i don't know how others feel but i think this kind of asocial toxic behavior just ruins online games....im glad that most people in eso aren't like that and very nice... /vent off

As someone who generally mains a tank for the last 2 years, in my cases the most toxic players I see are the healers. When I've played DPS or a healer, I've never had many issues with tanks.. Other than wondering why some have a lack of any taunt.

For example; here's two toxic healers I've had in the past week.

Wayrest 1, Normal mode. (Leveling a new Warden, level 45 at this point in time. For a Pledge.)

The healer was level 610 CP, had 10.5k health, and was a roleplayer. He managed to die to basic mobs twice, and he decided instead of healing in fights he should turn into a werewolf, or sit there typing in chat to yell at the rest of the group members. His friend was the tank, level 25. No taunt, and sometimes joining in on his whining. Let me repeat. Cp 610 healer, werewolf. Dying to basic mobs. The other DPS was also a warden. (Friend and I leveling PVP builds. But still more than able to actually duo the dungeon, which is basically what we had been doing since they decided 90% of the time, they wanted to talk.)

Some lines I quote. " You guys need to communicate." "Good Luck in Vet Dungeons" "I only died because I pulled too many mobs" (As the healer!) "I wanted to be something different. I wasn't going to be a vampire healer" "This is a roleplay character"

And add general rude insults and wasting time trying to blame the two people actually doing the dungeon instead of sitting around typing.

Now, after the dungeon was said and done, we talked a bit, explained what we thought he did wrong. He continued to blame us and our teamwork.. (Strangely. Blame the people who're on Discord, and duoing a normal dungeon while you talk in text chat.) We left the group, to which he promptly went to zone chat to try to insult us with his buddy joining in. We ignored him and left that right away.



Healer 2: Vet BC2.

The healer and secondary DPS were god awful. They managed to die pretty frequently. (At this point, I was a 250 CP tank, and my friend was a 175 CP Magsorc. The Healer was 565 Templar, and the other DPS was a 450 Stamsorc.)

I was basically self healing through a good amount of the dungeon because even while I held aggro, and kept mobs/bosses tight to me, the healer most of all would still find a way to get himself killed. Fast forward a bit:

Last Boss, Rilis. Not too complicated, there are mechanics to this one, but it's not too complicated. I held Boss, and the Daedroths tight to me, expecting the healer to help me to some extent. The DPS were hard at work meltng boss, the feast, and the Daedroths as best they could. but the healer decides that. "Let me stop healing everyone and run to the other side of the room!" Suddenly, Stamsorc dies for mechs. Instead of the healer sticking with me, he runs out to start rezing the stamsorc. Instead of letting our other DPS do this, who also promptly dies to mechs (No heals!) It's only me and the healer left. While I can hold my own, shield and self heal for a bit. To continue holding a boss and the daedroths, and deal with mechs on my own I do need health. What does the healer do? Die rezing dps. I managed to rez my friend, the magsorc. Who managed to rez the other two, only to have them all three die again. Healer ran away, other two die, and then healer dies.

Queue the chat. "Tank, you're not following the mechs! You need to do ________"

I have to scratch my head and wonder why this is anything I can be blamed for. I'm doing my job. Boss is far away from the Feast, Daedroths are on me, and he decides to keep running away and letting his teammates die because they need his heals.

This happens 10 times, before my friend and I told him in the chat that he shouldn't run away from healing people every time, then complain that they die. Everyone needed heals, and this guy was off in the corner of the room doing divines-know-what with himself. We left that pretty quickly.

HalvarIronfist wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

In recent pug pledges i cam across (a) tank(s) (maybe it was the same?) that immediatly wanted to kick everyone from the group that wasn't cp 810 - even people that had like cp 805 (not kidding); and when the group declined he immediatly left the group - happend a couple times... i don't know how others feel but i think this kind of asocial toxic behavior just ruins online games....im glad that most people in eso aren't like that and very nice... /vent off

As someone who generally mains a tank for the last 2 years, in my cases the most toxic players I see are the healers. When I've played DPS or a healer, I've never had many issues with tanks.. Other than wondering why some have a lack of any taunt.

For example; here's two toxic healers I've had in the past week.

Wayrest 1, Normal mode. (Leveling a new Warden, level 45 at this point in time. For a Pledge.)

The healer was level 610 CP, had 10.5k health, and was a roleplayer. He managed to die to basic mobs twice, and he decided instead of healing in fights he should turn into a werewolf, or sit there typing in chat to yell at the rest of the group members. His friend was the tank, level 25. No taunt, and sometimes joining in on his whining. Let me repeat. Cp 610 healer, werewolf. Dying to basic mobs. The other DPS was also a warden. (Friend and I leveling PVP builds. But still more than able to actually duo the dungeon, which is basically what we had been doing since they decided 90% of the time, they wanted to talk.)

Some lines I quote. " You guys need to communicate." "Good Luck in Vet Dungeons" "I only died because I pulled too many mobs" (As the healer!) "I wanted to be something different. I wasn't going to be a vampire healer" "This is a roleplay character"

And add general rude insults and wasting time trying to blame the two people actually doing the dungeon instead of sitting around typing.

Now, after the dungeon was said and done, we talked a bit, explained what we thought he did wrong. He continued to blame us and our teamwork.. (Strangely. Blame the people who're on Discord, and duoing a normal dungeon while you talk in text chat.) We left the group, to which he promptly went to zone chat to try to insult us with his buddy joining in. We ignored him and left that right away.



Healer 2: Vet BC2.

The healer and secondary DPS were god awful. They managed to die pretty frequently. (At this point, I was a 250 CP tank, and my friend was a 175 CP Magsorc. The Healer was 565 Templar, and the other DPS was a 450 Stamsorc.)

I was basically self healing through a good amount of the dungeon because even while I held aggro, and kept mobs/bosses tight to me, the healer most of all would still find a way to get himself killed. Fast forward a bit:

Last Boss, Rilis. Not too complicated, there are mechanics to this one, but it's not too complicated. I held Boss, and the Daedroths tight to me, expecting the healer to help me to some extent. The DPS were hard at work meltng boss, the feast, and the Daedroths as best they could. but the healer decides that. "Let me stop healing everyone and run to the other side of the room!" Suddenly, Stamsorc dies for mechs. Instead of the healer sticking with me, he runs out to start rezing the stamsorc. Instead of letting our other DPS do this, who also promptly dies to mechs (No heals!) It's only me and the healer left. While I can hold my own, shield and self heal for a bit. To continue holding a boss and the daedroths, and deal with mechs on my own I do need health. What does the healer do? Die rezing dps. I managed to rez my friend, the magsorc. Who managed to rez the other two, only to have them all three die again. Healer ran away, other two die, and then healer dies.

Queue the chat. "Tank, you're not following the mechs! You need to do ________"

I have to scratch my head and wonder why this is anything I can be blamed for. I'm doing my job. Boss is far away from the Feast, Daedroths are on me, and he decides to keep running away and letting his teammates die because they need his heals.

This happens 10 times, before my friend and I told him in the chat that he shouldn't run away from healing people every time, then complain that they die. Everyone needed heals, and this guy was off in the corner of the room doing divines-know-what with himself. We left that pretty quickly.

I have literally been in a group with someone who ran away to hide around the corner.

toxic dps'ers > toxic tanks

I've met handful of tanks who were "all that" and wanted kick under lv50's or someone not above 300cp...

I meet way more toxic dps'ers all leet and 40-50k+ dps monsters who don't like crystal frag, dradric means and liquid lighting I'm using as I heal.

"your DPs is trash Sera!"
*votes to kick*

I'm healer... none of you have dropped below 50%..depsite you standing in red circles like nubs... I'm damaging and healing... and its never enough. -_-'

I suck at weaving heavy attacks/cancels or what ever it is.. none of my characters can break (outside stamblde) can break or hold anything above 20k. T_T
Unlikely I ever will...

Trinity_Is_My_Name wrote: »

Elite Tank? Only time I even glance at CP is after we wipe. Everyone should give others a chance and stop kick voting right off the bat or when you wipe a few times.

I glance at CP as soon as I notice trash mobs aren't melting. But I don't say anything to the group. I just check out of curiosity.