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Is it "acceptable behavior" to... (pvp poll!)
generalmyrick
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...not help your alliance mates and point them out to enemies by light attacking in their direction when they are in stealth?
let me update the circumstance
no snipe spammers, just the above, relax! ;-)
Edited by generalmyrick on March 5, 2019 1:14PM let me update the circumstance
- Went to Imp city to farm some tel var as a yellow.
- stumbled upon a low level blue...didn't attack because, yeap, i'm that nice guy.
- warned in chat, "hey, blue nb spotted in elven.
- found 2 yellows attacking a boss.
- started attacking boss.
- 2 yellows move away from me and blue nb lands some blows.
- combined with boss attacks im, down. (for mr. l2p = i solo bosses often, calm down.)
- blue nb goes away, 2 yellows don't even revive after.
- i respawn, farm some bosses catch up to my yellow buddies, but this time knowing they have a friend, i am ultra careful, boss dead, yellows proceed to follow me light attacking in my direction as i cloak out to get away.
- blue nb reveals himself, i just elude and make it to a safe stoop to warp back and deposit.
- POSTS POLL
no snipe spammers, just the above, relax! ;-)
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Is it "acceptable behavior" to... (pvp poll!) 302 votes
No (that's toxic!)
71%
216 votes
other
9%
28 votes
yes, pvp means (player versus EVERY player--friendly fire turned off is a bug zos is trying to fix so we have to help them)
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pod88kk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No (that's toxic!)I had someone invite me to trade to bring me out of stealth so his buddy could gank me.
To be fair I did laugh as I thought it was clever and hadn't seen that trick before.13 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No (that's toxic!)Heck no. I, however, light attack in the direction I saw an enemy so my allies are aware."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
Bring Back Pure Class Build Power8 -
Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭You can do whatever you want in pvp. If you are a useless cloaker which is fearful of some battle, i would point you in any occasionI meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
-Elder Nightblades Online
Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you have to die in those situations15 -
Kr3do✭✭✭✭✭
✭yes, pvp means (player versus EVERY player--friendly fire turned off is a bug zos is trying to fix so we have to help them)Snipe spamming cowards don't deserve any better
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Elwendryll✭✭✭✭✭
✭They're just playing on opposite factions to help their friends right?PC - EU - France - AD
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InvictusApollo✭✭✭✭✭
✭otherI woudn't call that toxic.
I would either call that treachery or espionage. Both are part of every war. It would be nice if we could punish traitors somehow. Fortunately it happens so rarely that I don't think this should be developers primary concern.3 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭otherDepends. Is it a filthy cloak-spamming Snipe exploiter? Then yes, it’s justified — filthy cloak-spamming Snipe exploiters deserve to die always, alliance mates or not. Is it a full group in stealth planning to hit a keep? Then no.16 -
validifyedneb18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭yes, pvp means (player versus EVERY player--friendly fire turned off is a bug zos is trying to fix so we have to help them)If you're using stealth as a defensive mechanic, *** yes.
If you're positioning ready for an opener, meh who cares.EU: Magden, Magknight, Stamsorc(*2), Magsorc
NA: Magplar, Magden, PotatoBlade2 -
eliisra✭✭✭✭✭
✭otherIt's a crappy move, but I think you need to do more than light attacking in some direction, to be consider "toxic". To me toxic means really verbally abusive or going out of your way to grief and ruin other peoples gaming experience.
Might be reason why someone dislikes a certain group or guild? Not all allies are nice to others. Maybe they actually deserved that light attack and loosing their stealth advantage, because being d-bags?
But how much does it even matter? You wont magically beat the enemy and change the map because you manage to hide in stealth a bit longer at one occasion. If you're heavily outnumbered you will lose either way.0 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No (that's toxic!)generalmyrick wrote: »...not help your alliance mates and point them out to enemies by light attacking in their direction when they are in stealth?
Not to me it isn't.
It's probably a good thing I don't play as a stealth character. Because if someone did this to me they would be hearing my mouth.1 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No (that's toxic!)Depends. Is it a filthy cloak-spamming Snipe exploiter? Then yes, it’s justified — filthy cloak-spamming Snipe exploiters deserve to die always, alliance mates or not. Is it a full group in stealth planning to hit a keep? Then no.
That's a dilema for me. I'm Pact loyal 24/7 but hate snipe exploiters. In particular now it IS an exploitXbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
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Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach2 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No (that's toxic!)Elwendryll wrote: »They're just playing on opposite factions to help their friends right?
Yeo hence we need alliance lock @ZOS_BrianWheelerXbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach10 -
generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭No (that's toxic!)Elwendryll wrote: »They're just playing on opposite factions to help their friends right?
Yeo hence we need alliance lock @ZOS_BrianWheeler
preach it!!!!"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.2 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No (that's toxic!)I’d call it being a *** bag. Someone who’d do something like that should do everyone a favour and uninstall.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten12 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭yes, pvp means (player versus EVERY player--friendly fire turned off is a bug zos is trying to fix so we have to help them)It's justified when the player being targeted is toxic.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE8 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I wouldn't call it toxic and probably would get a warning if I typed what I want to call it. Instead I will go with cowardly.
The reason it is cowardly is because there is no consequence.
That aside not everybody in stealth is there to gank. Even if they are there to gank at least they are willing to take some risk. If they fail they die.
The real pieces of (insert bad word here) are the players working with the spotter.Edited by kargen27 on March 3, 2019 8:16PMand then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."2 -
russelmmendoza✭✭✭✭✭
✭No (that's toxic!)So, you go in there and point at players that is in your alliance, so they can be killed by the enemy.
Well, your an epic traitor is what I'll say.
That player is hiding so they can ambush enemies.
Alliance vs alliance. Does that ring a bell.
Player vs player basically, but there are alliances.
When you play basketbl, do you pass to the opposing team and block your teams shot?
Is that what you do.Edited by russelmmendoza on March 3, 2019 11:56PM5 -
Mgghool✭✭✭yes, pvp means (player versus EVERY player--friendly fire turned off is a bug zos is trying to fix so we have to help them)Well. You will not get “the most honorable pvper ever” award and it is kind of nasty behavior, but war is nasty business. I am just missing the opinion to kill the traitor
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AhPook_Is_Here✭✭✭✭✭
✭otherIt just depends if it's me doing it or me getting it done to.“Whatever.”
-Unknown American0 -
Morgul667✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No (that's toxic!)Cheating and Taking advantage of game mechanics to give their friend an advantage against players is toxic
The spy would not have those information if he was playing “normallly”4 -
Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Not cool, but if you really want to help your mate get kills/AP, there's far easier ways to do it.0 -
Chronocidal✭✭✭othervoted other
but as a
it can be tiresome to endure however since theres nothing you can do to stop such behaviour you might as well just ignore it as best you canfilthy cloak-spamming stealthy Snipe exploiter user
ive also had people standing on top of me /waving, /dancing, swinging melee LA's at me or simply standing on top of my position attacking the enemy knowing it will draw them to me
but thats the internet for you,
where some people seem to think that because your not doing exactly what they want you to when they want you to do it then your ruining their gameEdited by Chronocidal on March 4, 2019 4:24AM0 -
Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No (that's toxic!)I don’t understand the “logic” behind doing this.
You’d knowingly expose your own teammate....to the enemy?
For those that do it or are complacent in its practice.....I don’t think there’s a lower life form in existence.4 -
Trinity_Is_My_Name✭✭✭✭✭
✭yes, pvp means (player versus EVERY player--friendly fire turned off is a bug zos is trying to fix so we have to help them)LOL! Yes! Time to betray them all and join the Dark Side!1
