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Please Allow My Vampire to Wear Makeup
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Konstant_Tel_Necris✭✭✭✭✭If vampires can't become charming can werewolves in human form get constant NPC comments about their fur spurs from ears, smell of wet dog and wolf grin?
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tizodd✭✭✭BrianLovesLisa wrote: »No, because this is not twilight. Surprised you did not ask to add sparkling as well. YOU choose to be a Monster, now you are gonna get the cure or "Unlive??" with it
By that logic, every time we use a tri-stat potion, we should become a squid. Your argument makes no sense. There are plenty of beneficial skills/gear/items in the game that have no trade-off. Come to think of it...vampirism is the only one I can think of that actually does.8 -
myskyrim26✭✭✭✭✭
✭BrianLovesLisa wrote: »No, because this is not twilight. Surprised you did not ask to add sparkling as well. YOU choose to be a Monster, now you are gonna get the cure or "Unlive??" with it
Do some lore research. Some vampires are not changed at all. They are monsters yet look like just as any ordinary mer or men. No pale skin, no glowing eyes, nothing. Did you play Oblivion at all?11 -
Coatmagic✭✭✭✭✭
✭BrianLovesLisa wrote: »No, because this is not twilight. Surprised you did not ask to add sparkling as well. YOU choose to be a Monster, now you are gonna get the cure or "Unlive??" with it
*cough* can already sparkle with the golden body tatoos
Also, all of the new cosmetics show on top of vamp skin 8))
You can get a very nice peachy face glow with some of the original face paints since the vamp skin lightens the dark red.
Just need to buy the packs from the shop they are not too spendy considering how much you get in them (the vanilla head markings / body markings packs).
Think outside the coffin fellow vamp; you CAN be purdy agian.. just in a different way 1 -
Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I really don't get why you contrarians want to make things so difficult for others. I suspect Finder is on the right track with his/her post above explaining why people actively work to stop others from getting something: it doesn't benefit you, so you actively work against it. Just plain selfish.
One thing to keep in mind: I'm only asking it be an OPTION. Like I said in the op, if you like the vampire look, keep it. I'm not trying to force my opinion on anyone.
And frankly...the argument that 10% regen is the trade-off for the horrible look is asinine. We have entire skill trees that grant us benefits, many of which are stronger than those of vampirism, yet there are no trade-offs for those. They cost skill points and skill points only.
All I want is an option for my character to look the way I made her.
Your character looks they way you made her, YOU MADE her a vampire..so what is the issue. This has been like this for 5 years, game launched like this, you knew what would happen.
This has been discussed ad infinitum and frankly the argument that appearance is an issue for vampires is asinine.Edited by Skwor on March 2, 2019 2:27PM4 -
Ravena✭✭✭✭I really don't get why you contrarians want to make things so difficult for others. I suspect Finder is on the right track with his/her post above explaining why people actively work to stop others from getting something: it doesn't benefit you, so you actively work against it. Just plain selfish.
One thing to keep in mind: I'm only asking it be an OPTION. Like I said in the op, if you like the vampire look, keep it. I'm not trying to force my opinion on anyone.
And frankly...the argument that 10% regen is the trade-off for the horrible look is asinine. We have entire skill trees that grant us benefits, many of which are stronger than those of vampirism, yet there are no trade-offs for those. They cost skill points and skill points only.
All I want is an option for my character to look the way I made her.
Your character looks they way you made her, YOU MADE her a vampire..so what is the issue. This has been like this for 5 years, game launched like this, you knew what would happen.
This has been discussed ad infinitum and frankly the argument that appearance is an issue for vampires is asinine.
"It's not a problem for me so it could never be a problem for anyone"
You don't realize how selfish you sound?16 -
Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I really don't get why you contrarians want to make things so difficult for others. I suspect Finder is on the right track with his/her post above explaining why people actively work to stop others from getting something: it doesn't benefit you, so you actively work against it. Just plain selfish.
One thing to keep in mind: I'm only asking it be an OPTION. Like I said in the op, if you like the vampire look, keep it. I'm not trying to force my opinion on anyone.
And frankly...the argument that 10% regen is the trade-off for the horrible look is asinine. We have entire skill trees that grant us benefits, many of which are stronger than those of vampirism, yet there are no trade-offs for those. They cost skill points and skill points only.
All I want is an option for my character to look the way I made her.
Your character looks they way you made her, YOU MADE her a vampire..so what is the issue. This has been like this for 5 years, game launched like this, you knew what would happen.
This has been discussed ad infinitum and frankly the argument that appearance is an issue for vampires is asinine.
"It's not a problem for me so it could never be a problem for anyone"
You don't realize how selfish you sound?
"Even though I knew this was how vampires work I want it changed because I do not like it."
Do you realize how selfish AND foolish you sound?
How is it selfish to agree with how the game is designed and abide by it? Perhaps you need to understand what selfish really means?6 -
Verbal_Earthworm✭✭✭✭✭
✭How about you just roleplay being a vampire without actually becoming one?
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Ravena✭✭✭✭I really don't get why you contrarians want to make things so difficult for others. I suspect Finder is on the right track with his/her post above explaining why people actively work to stop others from getting something: it doesn't benefit you, so you actively work against it. Just plain selfish.
One thing to keep in mind: I'm only asking it be an OPTION. Like I said in the op, if you like the vampire look, keep it. I'm not trying to force my opinion on anyone.
And frankly...the argument that 10% regen is the trade-off for the horrible look is asinine. We have entire skill trees that grant us benefits, many of which are stronger than those of vampirism, yet there are no trade-offs for those. They cost skill points and skill points only.
All I want is an option for my character to look the way I made her.
Your character looks they way you made her, YOU MADE her a vampire..so what is the issue. This has been like this for 5 years, game launched like this, you knew what would happen.
This has been discussed ad infinitum and frankly the argument that appearance is an issue for vampires is asinine.
"It's not a problem for me so it could never be a problem for anyone"
You don't realize how selfish you sound?
"Even though I knew this was how vampires work I want it changed because I do not like it."
Do you realize how selfish AND foolish you sound?
How is it selfish to agree with how the game is designed and abide by it? Perhaps you need to understand what selfish really means?
Naw, you're just arguing for the sake of it. You like to be a contrarian. This literally doesn't matter to you.14 -
Kulvar✭✭✭✭What I would like
Stage 0 :
• Look normal
• 5% Fire weakness
• +10% Health Recovery
Stage 1 :
• 10% Fire weakness
• +10% Health Recovery
• Guards randomly comments on how sick you look, or that you should see a healer.
Stage 2 to 4 :
• Guards attacks you on sight
Stage 4 :
• Health Recovery is disabledCoward Argonian scholar of the Ebonheart Pact1 -
Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I really don't get why you contrarians want to make things so difficult for others. I suspect Finder is on the right track with his/her post above explaining why people actively work to stop others from getting something: it doesn't benefit you, so you actively work against it. Just plain selfish.
One thing to keep in mind: I'm only asking it be an OPTION. Like I said in the op, if you like the vampire look, keep it. I'm not trying to force my opinion on anyone.
And frankly...the argument that 10% regen is the trade-off for the horrible look is asinine. We have entire skill trees that grant us benefits, many of which are stronger than those of vampirism, yet there are no trade-offs for those. They cost skill points and skill points only.
All I want is an option for my character to look the way I made her.
Your character looks they way you made her, YOU MADE her a vampire..so what is the issue. This has been like this for 5 years, game launched like this, you knew what would happen.
This has been discussed ad infinitum and frankly the argument that appearance is an issue for vampires is asinine.
"It's not a problem for me so it could never be a problem for anyone"
You don't realize how selfish you sound?
"Even though I knew this was how vampires work I want it changed because I do not like it."
Do you realize how selfish AND foolish you sound?
How is it selfish to agree with how the game is designed and abide by it? Perhaps you need to understand what selfish really means?
Naw, you're just arguing for the sake of it. You like to be a contrarian. This literally doesn't matter to you.
Wrong, feel free to review my posts. This has been my consistent position on this issue for quite a while.
Also you will find numerous times I agree on issue, also consistently.
All you did in your response was make a false accusation about my intent. I would prefer you do not so casually attempt to impugn my forum characterEdited by Skwor on March 2, 2019 6:31PM1 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭aside from the fact that glamour actualy exists in ESO and we have in game vampires actualy very successfully hiding their visible vampire (rivenspire story) its kinda funny that right now, in RL, we have makeup that can cover up scaring, tatoos etc... and yet some how in a land of MAGIC of ESO... we have skins that completely change our appearance but NOT basic foundation etc?
visible vampiric appearance makes. no. sense. especially when you consider just... going about general population looking like a vampire and somehow no one bats an eye.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***15 -
Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭aside from the fact that glamour actualy exists in ESO and we have in game vampires actualy very successfully hiding their visible vampire (rivenspire story) its kinda funny that right now, in RL, we have makeup that can cover up scaring, tatoos etc... and yet some how in a land of MAGIC of ESO... we have skins that completely change our appearance but NOT basic foundation etc?
visible vampiric appearance makes. no. sense. especially when you consider just... going about general population looking like a vampire and somehow no one bats an eye.
If you are giong yo invoke rl as reason to be able to hide vampirism wiymth make up then I invoke rl as a reason the game should remove vampires, after all we do not have them in rl.
RL justifications just do not belong in a fantasy MMO, stick to thematic or lore justifications1 -
tizodd✭✭✭I really don't get why you contrarians want to make things so difficult for others. I suspect Finder is on the right track with his/her post above explaining why people actively work to stop others from getting something: it doesn't benefit you, so you actively work against it. Just plain selfish.
One thing to keep in mind: I'm only asking it be an OPTION. Like I said in the op, if you like the vampire look, keep it. I'm not trying to force my opinion on anyone.
And frankly...the argument that 10% regen is the trade-off for the horrible look is asinine. We have entire skill trees that grant us benefits, many of which are stronger than those of vampirism, yet there are no trade-offs for those. They cost skill points and skill points only.
All I want is an option for my character to look the way I made her.
Your character looks they way you made her, YOU MADE her a vampire..so what is the issue. This has been like this for 5 years, game launched like this, you knew what would happen.
This has been discussed ad infinitum and frankly the argument that appearance is an issue for vampires is asinine.
Why on earth would it bother you if I was able to keep my character's appearance the way she was created? How does it affect you in any way, shape, or form? You have no horse in this race, yet you're treating it like you'll be losing something if we're allowed the OPTION to keep our character's original appearance.16 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭aside from the fact that glamour actualy exists in ESO and we have in game vampires actualy very successfully hiding their visible vampire (rivenspire story) its kinda funny that right now, in RL, we have makeup that can cover up scaring, tatoos etc... and yet some how in a land of MAGIC of ESO... we have skins that completely change our appearance but NOT basic foundation etc?
visible vampiric appearance makes. no. sense. especially when you consider just... going about general population looking like a vampire and somehow no one bats an eye.
If you are giong yo invoke rl as reason to be able to hide vampirism wiymth make up then I invoke rl as a reason the game should remove vampires, after all we do not have them in rl.
RL justifications just do not belong in a fantasy MMO, stick to thematic or lore justifications
except real life gets brought up often enough when "its not realistic" excuse is used.
the fact that ESo is NOT a real life is PRECISELY THE POINT. this is a game with MAGIC. MAGIC that was ESTABLISHED on multiple occasions to be capable of HIDING vampirism. so why are you totaly cool with glowing magma skins but... not being able to glamour up regular appearance?
please, stop pretending that your arguments have anything to do with lore, you just want to punish people for choosing to be a vampire even though as it has been pointed out that there are other multiple skill lines with strong passives that have NO drawbacks
well.. I even have a suggestion, to placate you "you must suffer" ilk.
a magically cast buff. you can only hide your vampiric appearance if you have that buff active and in order to maintain that buff, you lose, lets say 4k of your magika pool. this way, for actual combat - you just remove the buff, look all veiny and ugly becasue for whatever reason having other people's characters look terrible is important for you and have your full magika pool accessible. trying to look normal? have to cast that buff again. think of it as old school bound armaments, except instead of purple eyes, players get their normal appearance back and it costs part of magika pool as long as its active.
and speaking of which, I love how we have all these visual effects that we can cast on ourselves and its perfectly ok, and lore friendly, but a very basic glamour that npc's get to do all over the place? is somehow a no no. sigh.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***8 -
tizodd✭✭✭aside from the fact that glamour actualy exists in ESO and we have in game vampires actualy very successfully hiding their visible vampire (rivenspire story) its kinda funny that right now, in RL, we have makeup that can cover up scaring, tatoos etc... and yet some how in a land of MAGIC of ESO... we have skins that completely change our appearance but NOT basic foundation etc?
visible vampiric appearance makes. no. sense. especially when you consider just... going about general population looking like a vampire and somehow no one bats an eye.
If you are giong yo invoke rl as reason to be able to hide vampirism wiymth make up then I invoke rl as a reason the game should remove vampires, after all we do not have them in rl.
RL justifications just do not belong in a fantasy MMO, stick to thematic or lore justifications
You clearly are just arguing for the sake of arguing...or perhaps you're arguing because you're too stubborn to admit someone else has a point that's contrary to your original opinion? By your logic, we shouldn't have magic in ESO right? No argonians? No khajiit? You get the point. We bring up makeup because it's clearly something that exists already in the game. We have makeup, tattoos, and polymorphs already in the game. Why can't our character then, put on some makeup to get their complexion back?
We're asking for one simple thing. A thing that won't affect you in any way, but will allow us to better enjoy the game and the character we made. Yet you insist on arguing against it for some odd reason.
Judging by your posts, you seem intelligent enough to understand where we're coming from, but you're unwilling to back off your original opinion because you'll feel like you've somehow lost.8 -
Axmouth✭✭The appearance is one of the effects of being a vampire. It was made sense to me that there's this kind of pros and cons(in fact, a subjective con).
Why is it that you want to be a vampire and avoid seeing it?
I too want Orc bonuses without looking like an Orc, can I have that then?
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tizodd✭✭✭The appearance is one of the effects of being a vampire. It was made sense to me that there's this kind of pros and cons(in fact, a subjective con).
Why is it that you want to be a vampire and avoid seeing it?
I too want Orc bonuses without looking like an Orc, can I have that then?
Good lord what's wrong with you people? (sorry, it's getting a little frustrating lol) Again I ask...how would it affect you in any way, shape, or form if someone else is allowed to have their character look the way the character was created? Why would you argue against it? It doesn't affect you at all...
Besides that, your race argument makes no sense. It would be a different thing is Vampire was a race chosen at the beginning of the game. But no, it's a skill line that costs skill points and experience to upgrade, just like all the other skill lines.
But again...we're asking for an option. An OPTION. The same way we can hide our helmet if we don't want to see it. An OPTION. If you like the way your vampire looks, great! I don't want to force my opinion on you...by all means keep your vampire's appearance the way it is. But I, and others, would like the option to cover it up. An option that you can opt out of and not be affected by. At all...7 -
IzzyStardust✭✭✭✭✭
✭ApostateHobo wrote: »I don't really care if my character looks normal or not I just wish vampirism wouldn't hide my face and body markings.
Yes; just put the tattoo marking layer above vamp layer and problem solved.4 -
tizodd✭✭✭IzzyStardust wrote: »ApostateHobo wrote: »I don't really care if my character looks normal or not I just wish vampirism wouldn't hide my face and body markings.
Yes; just put the tattoo marking layer above vamp layer and problem solved.
I've seen this suggested before but have you ever tried it in-game? Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but even with facial or body tattoos, my character still has the pale skin, veins, etc. Is there something special that needs to be done for the tattoo to actually make your character look normal again?0 -
Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭aside from the fact that glamour actualy exists in ESO and we have in game vampires actualy very successfully hiding their visible vampire (rivenspire story) its kinda funny that right now, in RL, we have makeup that can cover up scaring, tatoos etc... and yet some how in a land of MAGIC of ESO... we have skins that completely change our appearance but NOT basic foundation etc?
visible vampiric appearance makes. no. sense. especially when you consider just... going about general population looking like a vampire and somehow no one bats an eye.
If you are giong yo invoke rl as reason to be able to hide vampirism wiymth make up then I invoke rl as a reason the game should remove vampires, after all we do not have them in rl.
RL justifications just do not belong in a fantasy MMO, stick to thematic or lore justifications
except real life gets brought up often enough when "its not realistic" excuse is used.
the fact that ESo is NOT a real life is PRECISELY THE POINT. this is a game with MAGIC. MAGIC that was ESTABLISHED on multiple occasions to be capable of HIDING vampirism. so why are you totaly cool with glowing magma skins but... not being able to glamour up regular appearance?
please, stop pretending that your arguments have anything to do with lore, you just want to punish people for choosing to be a vampire even though as it has been pointed out that there are other multiple skill lines with strong passives that have NO drawbacks
well.. I even have a suggestion, to placate you "you must suffer" ilk.
a magically cast buff. you can only hide your vampiric appearance if you have that buff active and in order to maintain that buff, you lose, lets say 4k of your magika pool. this way, for actual combat - you just remove the buff, look all veiny and ugly becasue for whatever reason having other people's characters look terrible is important for you and have your full magika pool accessible. trying to look normal? have to cast that buff again. think of it as old school bound armaments, except instead of purple eyes, players get their normal appearance back and it costs part of magika pool as long as its active.
and speaking of which, I love how we have all these visual effects that we can cast on ourselves and its perfectly ok, and lore friendly, but a very basic glamour that npc's get to do all over the place? is somehow a no no. sigh.
Never once did I invoke lore. My whole premise is vampires are very powerful as is in game. DEVs decided appearance is a fair trade off for that power and I agree, in fact I think it is not enough but that is where it is at right now.
People asking to remove even that trade off are asking for to much. If they want that then either tone down the benefits or make it such that when they look normal you get no bonuses.
I proposed another option a while ago. Make vampires very weak during the daytime to actually match other ESO games. Funny how the lore people will invoke lore for appearance but want nothing to do with daytime weakness.Edited by Skwor on March 2, 2019 7:53PM4 -
Waynerx8✭✭✭✭A vamp with a bit of lippy on is still going home on their own on a Saturday night, or any night for that matter.1
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Axmouth✭✭The appearance is one of the effects of being a vampire. It was made sense to me that there's this kind of pros and cons(in fact, a subjective con).
Why is it that you want to be a vampire and avoid seeing it?
I too want Orc bonuses without looking like an Orc, can I have that then?
Good lord what's wrong with you people? (sorry, it's getting a little frustrating lol) Again I ask...how would it affect you in any way, shape, or form if someone else is allowed to have their character look the way the character was created? Why would you argue against it? It doesn't affect you at all...
Besides that, your race argument makes no sense. It would be a different thing is Vampire was a race chosen at the beginning of the game. But no, it's a skill line that costs skill points and experience to upgrade, just like all the other skill lines.
But again...we're asking for an option. An OPTION. The same way we can hide our helmet if we don't want to see it. An OPTION. If you like the way your vampire looks, great! I don't want to force my opinion on you...by all means keep your vampire's appearance the way it is. But I, and others, would like the option to cover it up. An option that you can opt out of and not be affected by. At all...
And which part of it being one of the established trade offs is hard to get?
Maybe vampires could hide their appearance with illusion magic. If they have to use an in game spell to do that, personally I'd say it's fair, because you give something up for it. But having the option to do away with one of the trade offs is not right as far as I'm concerned.3 -
Vulsahdaal✭✭✭✭✭
✭The appearance is one of the effects of being a vampire. It was made sense to me that there's this kind of pros and cons(in fact, a subjective con).
Why is it that you want to be a vampire and avoid seeing it?
I too want Orc bonuses without looking like an Orc, can I have that then?
Good lord what's wrong with you people? (sorry, it's getting a little frustrating lol) Again I ask...how would it affect you in any way, shape, or form if someone else is allowed to have their character look the way the character was created? Why would you argue against it? It doesn't affect you at all...
Besides that, your race argument makes no sense. It would be a different thing is Vampire was a race chosen at the beginning of the game. But no, it's a skill line that costs skill points and experience to upgrade, just like all the other skill lines.
But again...we're asking for an option. An OPTION. The same way we can hide our helmet if we don't want to see it. An OPTION. If you like the way your vampire looks, great! I don't want to force my opinion on you...by all means keep your vampire's appearance the way it is. But I, and others, would like the option to cover it up. An option that you can opt out of and not be affected by. At all...
I do get it. I have magicka characters also, and not a single one of them is a vamp. Why? Simply because I do not want them to look like a vamp. I dont like the way vamps look (sorry to the ones who do, its just my opinion).
So its really simple, if you dont want to look like a vamp- dont be one.
Now, going back to options- usually something I am all for. But this I cant get behind. Not unless it is discussed to fix werewolves (of which I do have one) as well.
I want werewolf passives, but without having to have fur and a tail. Yes, its true that I dont have fur and tail most of the time- but you know what else I dont have?
Werewolf passives and skills. Cant have those unless I show fur and tail.
The way you vamps make it sound is like you want the passives and skills full time but not look like a vamp. This isnt right, and I think is why many are 'contrarians'
Instead, you should ask to make vamp take up a slot as an ultimate like werewolf, and you will only be vamp ugly when vamp ultimate is engaged and this will also be the only time that vamp passives and skills are available to your character.
If you put it in these terms, you may find that you will have more support among the non vamps and 'contrarians'.
Of course then those who like the way vamps look now might be upset, but a skin can be offered to them to make them look like vamps full time. Its about the options, right?
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Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Vulsahdaal wrote: »The appearance is one of the effects of being a vampire. It was made sense to me that there's this kind of pros and cons(in fact, a subjective con).
Why is it that you want to be a vampire and avoid seeing it?
I too want Orc bonuses without looking like an Orc, can I have that then?
Good lord what's wrong with you people? (sorry, it's getting a little frustrating lol) Again I ask...how would it affect you in any way, shape, or form if someone else is allowed to have their character look the way the character was created? Why would you argue against it? It doesn't affect you at all...
Besides that, your race argument makes no sense. It would be a different thing is Vampire was a race chosen at the beginning of the game. But no, it's a skill line that costs skill points and experience to upgrade, just like all the other skill lines.
But again...we're asking for an option. An OPTION. The same way we can hide our helmet if we don't want to see it. An OPTION. If you like the way your vampire looks, great! I don't want to force my opinion on you...by all means keep your vampire's appearance the way it is. But I, and others, would like the option to cover it up. An option that you can opt out of and not be affected by. At all...
I do get it. I have magicka characters also, and not a single one of them is a vamp. Why? Simply because I do not want them to look like a vamp. I dont like the way vamps look (sorry to the ones who do, its just my opinion).
So its really simple, if you dont want to look like a vamp- dont be one.
Now, going back to options- usually something I am all for. But this I cant get behind. Not unless it is discussed to fix werewolves (of which I do have one) as well.
I want werewolf passives, but without having to have fur and a tail. Yes, its true that I dont have fur and tail most of the time- but you know what else I dont have?
Werewolf passives and skills. Cant have those unless I show fur and tail.
The way you vamps make it sound is like you want the passives and skills full time but not look like a vamp. This isnt right, and I think is why many are 'contrarians'
Instead, you should ask to make vamp take up a slot as an ultimate like werewolf, and you will only be vamp ugly when vamp ultimate is engaged and this will also be the only time that vamp passives and skills are available to your character.
If you put it in these terms, you may find that you will have more support among the non vamps and 'contrarians'.
Of course then those who like the way vamps look now might be upset, but a skin can be offered to them to make them look like vamps full time. Its about the options, right?
Thank you QFT
And for the record I am a werewolf.Edited by Skwor on March 2, 2019 9:14PM1 -
milesrodneymcneely2_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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Stark GETS it.starkerealm wrote: »To be fair, your soul has been bound to Coldharbour, and you've returned from the planes of Oblivion as a soulless, daedric mockery of your former self. So, what I'm really saying is:
(Except for the part where we're bound to the Mundus instead of Coldharbour, but that's just a quibble.)
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dodgehopper_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No. Vampires are unholy abominations and their wretched appearance is appropriate. You have the choice not to be vampire.
I never understood why some people just want to kill other people's fun for no reason?
What argument is there behind it ? "I dont want you to look like you want, because you should be ugly "... okay ... thanks...
Because vampire is a balance dumpster fire that forces people into playing monstrous garbage.US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
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✭✭✭✭✭How do vamps even put on makeup since they can't see their reflection in the mirror?Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!5 -
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✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »How do vamps even put on makeup since they can't see their reflection in the mirror?
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