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Who's not going to extend their subscription?
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Socratic✭✭✭cheeser123 wrote: »
Calls me "neanderthalic."
Doesn't know how to use grade-school grammar.
I've already demonstrated my capability of using punctuation including the apostrophe within the quote, it is you who lacks the comprehension to differentiate between a mistake and the lack of knowledge. Become a better pedant please
Edited by Socratic on April 9, 2014 9:32AM0 -
Socratic✭✭✭Quote from eHow.
"In some cases, you can give someone, such as a relative or friend, authorization to use your credit card account. You may also have to write a signed note authorizing the person. Giving away this information (credit card or digits) to anyone, even someone you know well, is a very risky decision. Also, allowing someone else to sign for transactions on your credit card could go against your credit card service agreement. Examine your creditor's rules before allowing someone to use the card.
Read more: http://www.ehow.com/info_7827874_can-authorization-use-credit-card.html#ixzz2yNdRXjim"0 -
cheeser123✭✭✭I've already demonstrated my capability of using punctuation including the apostrophe within the quote, it is you who lacks the comprehension to differentiate between a mistake and the lack of knowledge. Become a better pedant please
Your ability to find and press the apostrophe key notwithstanding, the correct word there is "whose."
PS Nice epeen. Everybody's impressed that you went ahead and listed everything you own right up to the headset.1 -
cheeser123✭✭✭Quote from eHow.
"In some cases, you can give someone, such as a relative or friend, authorization to use your credit card account. You may also have to write a signed note authorizing the person. Giving away this information (credit card or digits) to anyone, even someone you know well, is a very risky decision. Also, allowing someone else to sign for transactions on your credit card could go against your credit card service agreement. Examine your creditor's rules before allowing someone to use the card.
Read more: http://www.ehow.com/info_7827874_can-authorization-use-credit-card.html#ixzz2yNdRXjim"
Glad to see you've confirmed what I said.
Now, to summarize:
Foreign people: We don't have credit cards.
Jerks: Too bad, read the ToS.
Foreign people: We were told we could get other payment options.
Jerks: Too bad, read the ToS. Or just use a friend's card.
Me: That is actually a violation of the ToS.
Jerks: OMG u r so pedantic lolololol
I rest my case.1 -
Devilfish85✭✭✭Hilarious bickering aside, I plan to extend my subscription specifically because it will be a month after launch. Launches are always chaos, save for a few rare and fortunate exceptions. In that first frenzied month, the biggest issues get fixed. By the second month, theyre usually patched over. I nearly chose not to subscribe for the first month anyway, which is my normal way of doing things.0 -
Socratic✭✭✭
Ah wait nvm this bit. I guess my mistake derived from the lack of an e while you adding quoting apostrophe made me focus on the apostrophe instead of directing my focus to the context of which the mistake lay.cheeser123 wrote: »I've already demonstrated my capability of using punctuation including the apostrophe within the quote, it is you who lacks the comprehension to differentiate between a mistake and the lack of knowledge. Become a better pedant please
Your ability to find and press the apostrophe key notwithstanding, the correct word there is "whose."
PS Nice epeen. Everybody's impressed that you went ahead and listed everything you own right up to the headset.Edited by Socratic on April 9, 2014 9:47AM0 -
cheeser123✭✭✭Yet, you were the one who corrected it as "who's".
Wow, you are just astounding. I quoted you verbatim. My only addition was the emphasis.
See for yourself:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/585945/#Comment_5859450 -
Socratic✭✭✭
I don't know what you argument is anyway. You believed that my earlier post was directed at you when it wasn't. You started attacking me out of your lack of awareness, maybe you were too hyped up within a debate you were ready to attack anybody. If I confirmed your debate that you can authorise anyone to use you credit card for this game then fine, let's stop whatever we are doing right now.cheeser123 wrote: »Quote from eHow.
"In some cases, you can give someone, such as a relative or friend, authorization to use your credit card account. You may also have to write a signed note authorizing the person. Giving away this information (credit card or digits) to anyone, even someone you know well, is a very risky decision. Also, allowing someone else to sign for transactions on your credit card could go against your credit card service agreement. Examine your creditor's rules before allowing someone to use the card.
Read more: http://www.ehow.com/info_7827874_can-authorization-use-credit-card.html#ixzz2yNdRXjim"
Glad to see you've confirmed what I said.
Now, to summarize:
Foreign people: We don't have credit cards.
Jerks: Too bad, read the ToS.
Foreign people: We were told we could get other payment options.
Jerks: Too bad, read the ToS. Or just use a friend's card.
Me: That is actually a violation of the ToS.
Jerks: OMG u r so pedantic lolololol
I rest my case.
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Numeriku✭✭Well for one i bought the game directly from the site, imperial edition, when the game early access ended, i just put in my paypal account, done, no problems for me so far, no crashes or issues in getting the story quest done except when fighting molag bal in the end which was resolved in like 15 minutes, i am subscribing for 6 months cause the game launch is the smoothest ever than most of the mmorpg launches out there.Legendary Lee / Terror / www.go-terror.com / Proud member of the Daggerfall Covenant0 -
cheeser123✭✭✭Ah wait nvm this bit. I guess my mistake derived from the lack of an e while you adding quoting apostrophe made me focus on the apostrophe instead of directing my focus to the context of which the mistake lay.
Nice edit to fix the part where you got everything wrong.
Also: "directing my focus to the context of which the mistake lay"??
Dude, you can barely cobble together a sentence, but your first post in this thread came out swinging with insults to my intelligence and vacuous charges that I was factually incorrect. As a bonus, bragging about not having any lines of credit. That's just really, really sad.0 -
Kiwi✭✭✭✭seems I don't really have a choice as I have been charged for a month up front which they do not seem to be returning any time soon and then there's the mysterious '30 days free time I am apparently owed'
I guess I'll be here for a couple of months at leastA large rectangle
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cheeser123✭✭✭Devilfish85 wrote: »Hilarious bickering aside, I plan to extend my subscription specifically because it will be a month after launch. Launches are always chaos, save for a few rare and fortunate exceptions. In that first frenzied month, the biggest issues get fixed. By the second month, theyre usually patched over. I nearly chose not to subscribe for the first month anyway, which is my normal way of doing things.
This is my inclination as well. Having missed launch due to the logistical nightmare between Zenimax & Amazon, I figure I'll wait for the game-breaking bugs and other serious issues to get fixed before using up my game time.0 -
Socratic✭✭✭
I seen, unfortunately I have a very poor cognitive ability especially in regards to retaining conversations and what I have or others have said.cheeser123 wrote: »Yet, you were the one who corrected it as "who's".
Wow, you are just astounding. I quoted you verbatim. My only addition was the emphasis.
See for yourself:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/585945/#Comment_585945
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Etchesketch✭✭✭✭I just cancelled my recurring. I figured since I am such a fan of ES, since Arena, as well as the Fallout games, I'd at least play this one a couple months, but it doesn't look like it.
Hopefully it will be something I come back and try again, but that really never happens. I thought the same thing with swtor but I never looked back.The number one rule of online gaming is now and has always been, Never play on Patch Day.0 -
cheeser123✭✭✭If I confirmed your debate that you can authorise anyone to use you credit card for this game then fine
That is really not what that article said, not even remotely. Did you even read it before cherry picking that quotation? Authorized users are approved by the crediting agency and issued their own temporary or permanent card. You can't just hand it over and say "hey bro, ur totally authorzed go 4 it lolol."
If you want to walk back all the nonsense you've been saying, fine. I'm just sick of people berating foreigners and others who don't have access to a valid payment method, especially when they propose doing something else as some obvious or trivial solution -- when in fact, that would constitute a more serious breach of the ToS. It's arrogant and stupid, and I thought I'd turn the tables on them. And then, for no apparent reason, you walked right into the middle of that.0 -
ZessanSoul ShrivenI have already signed up for 6 month.
I love this game, the graphics are stunning beyond all expectations I had from the beginning. The quest chains are nice and interesting. The combat is new to me but I really like the dynamics in it, compared to all stupid WoW-clones.
So far I have experienced very few bugs and it is not even a surprise that everything isn't working 100% since it just launched.
Zenimax has done a great job so far - keep it up and I will probably stay for years to come 0 -
Socratic✭✭✭
It doesn't say you have to put that persons name on your card account or tell your credit company you are authorising said a person. I read "you can give someone, such as a relative or friend, authorization to use your credit card account."cheeser123 wrote: »If I confirmed your debate that you can authorise anyone to use you credit card for this game then fine
That is really not what that article said, not even remotely. Did you even read it before cherry picking that quotation? Authorized users are approved by the crediting agency and issued their own temporary or permanent card. You can't just hand it over and say "hey bro, ur totally authorzed go 4 it lolol."
If you want to walk back all the nonsense you've been saying, fine. I'm just sick of people berating foreigners and others who don't have access to a valid payment method, especially when they propose doing something else as some obvious or trivial solution -- when in fact, that would constitute a more serious breach of the ToS. It's arrogant and stupid, and I thought I'd turn the tables on them. And then, for no apparent reason, you walked right into the middle of that.0 -
Socratic✭✭✭
Now you accept you can authorise a friend to use your card?cheeser123 wrote: »Other examples might be a spouse, elderly parent, etc. It would not include your friend who has no relationship with you or your credit service.0 -
KerinKor✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've set up a 6 month sub. which will definitely be actioned, on two accounts. Sure, the launch was rough, some seriously bad bugs exist and many less serious but still quest-breaking aren't likely to be fixed soon.
That said, I love the world Zenimax have created, the game-play is very flexible and I can see many alts in my future. Whether it has a really long term future is hard to tell right now, I have reservations about Zenimax's view of a group-or-die end-game that they seem to developing with the 'Adventure' zones but I live in hope they may realise that a good proportion of players don't want to have group to carry on playing.0 -
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Note the bolded lines above.cheeser123 wrote: »
Gosh, and if you actually did what I said and Googled "authorized user" you'd find out that an authorized user must be a CARDHOLDER on the account. Someone your company approves to use the card, like your irrelevant example of children. Other examples might be a spouse, elderly parent, etc. It would not include your friend who has no relationship with you or your credit service. So if you and/or your friend try to set up his account with your card, you've violated the ToS
Those are two different accounts you are talking about. The first is about authorized cardholder on the account of the credit card This is the account the card holder has with his bank. Everything you wrote, spouse, etc. relates to this.
The second is about the online game account This is the account you have with the game provider and is completely separate from the CC account above.
You are mixing apples with oranges.cheeser123 wrote: »
and (based on every credit agreement I've ever seen, which is more than the zero Captain Grammar up there has) it also violates the credit card agreement.
I'd very much like to see a credit card agreement that forbids ME to use MY credit card to buy something for my friend. Very much.
Edited by Sharee on April 9, 2014 10:11AM0 -
Socratic✭✭✭cheeser123 wrote: »And then, for no apparent reason, you walked right into the middle of that.
You quoted against me first dude, you started this.Edited by Socratic on April 9, 2014 10:12AM0 -
pmn100b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Have subbed for 6 months, £41, which is pretty reasonable I think considering the hours of game play available. I haven't had any problems with the game, a couple of non spawning npcs, but nothing beyond that (touch wood).
I know people think there are loads of bugs and loads of people complaining about the game, but to keep it in context, millions(?) are playing this game right now, millions of people are not on these forums reporting problems. A few hundred maybe. The biggest one seems to be the bank glitch with a few hundred comments. But lots of other bugs seem to be user dependent, and somewhat isolated issues. Not saying that ZMO shouldn't be able to get you through them, but they are not being experienced by most of the player base by a long shot.
These customer support forums will always give a biased slant on the state of the game, towards the negative of course.Edited by pmn100b16_ESO on April 9, 2014 10:18AM0 -
Insegt✭✭I don't know how the English or French support works, but for the German one I must say - how do I say it in a diplomatic manner? - it's a communication holocaust.
This is also the only reason we - yes, plural, I'm not alone with this opinion - are thinking about quitting.
It's not about some bugs that may appear. The overall quality of the game is way above industry standard. But that also is the main reason why people are not satisfied. The product is not only considered the game only, it is also the periphic like support and service. The last two lessen the quality and that as a matter of fact actually leads to the thought not to subscribe.
It's a shame, a game like ESO, that really sets new standards shows this leck of service. A fact that might actually lead to a disaster SWTOR already went through.
I personally will wait what the German Consumer Protection Department will state on this manner and then I will decide, if I will subscribe or if it may be to risky with this sort of service.1 -
Kaspar✭✭✭I'll likely let my 6 month continuation proceed after the free month. I'm mostly enjoying playing this game. I find it does have a unique Elder Scrolls feel to it.
Launch Day / Patch Day drama-fest aside.Edited by Kaspar on April 9, 2014 10:40AM0 -
Fenbrae✭✭✭I'm planning on sticking around.
I'm not planning to sub 3 or 6 months ahead because i like to keep my option of leaving open, but i don't have reasons to leave right now.
Sure, the patching process was suboptimal and bugs pop up left and right, but i know very little MMOs that launched bug free. I want to see how this game improves.
I will probably leave if this game goes F2P though. I hate F2P MMOs. They always become cashgrabbing wastes of space filled with ads and "buy power for money" cash shops.Edited by Fenbrae on April 9, 2014 10:45AMCurrently playing:
Swims-In-Sap - CP200+ - Argonian Templar
I like my healing like i like my characters: generic0 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TL;DR I will sub but I want to see improvements.
I'm not really happy with the release as it does feel like it needed much more time in beta than it has.
The issues of gold sellers annoys me not because they're there (they always are) but because we the players lack the tools to police this ourselves.
The teleporting bots needs to be fixes ASAP and if that isn't addressed by the end of the month I would have serious worries about the development of the games security in future.
Normal bugs are frustrating but I can work through them as I am enjoying the working aspects of the game. I think my biggest wish is that Zenimax would have a stronger and more open customer service group who would engage with the player base more. I think this comes from a level of entitlement to developer access I have built in my time playing EVE Online and having CCP Devs on Twitter mucking in with the community to make jokes or answer questions when free.
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."0 -
flameweaver✭✭✭Did ZOS get a lot right, yes, did they get a lot wrong, absolutely. In some way I think they're paying the price for their limited weekend beta strategy and their over zealous NDA which prevented any open discussion about the game by the players. There's a lot being said here, that should have been said on the beta forums, but closing them after each beta weekend was just plain dumb.
That said, I have subbed for six months giving ZOS the time to fix and move the game forward, so I'll stick with it for now a review sometime toward the end of September as to whether to continue or not.
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