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Best new nightblade race
twilightwarrick
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Hi so was playing as a wood elve, but after the stealth nerf , was thinking is a dark elve now better with the increased weapon damage nearly the same stamina boost and as a newly
christened vampire the fire buff would be very nice, any advice would be welcome, I know everyone likes the cats, but just don't think its me
christened vampire the fire buff would be very nice, any advice would be welcome, I know everyone likes the cats, but just don't think its me
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kojou✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Orc is also a good choice with 1000 extra health and sprint buff.Playing since beta...4 -
Vaerth✭✭✭✭twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi so was playing as a wood elve, but after the stealth nerf , was thinking is a dark elve now better with the increased weapon damage nearly the same stamina boost and as a newly
christened vampire the fire buff would be very nice, any advice would be welcome, I know everyone likes the cats, but just don't think its me
Orc and ImperialPact Bloodwraith0 -
NyassaV✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi so was playing as a wood elve, but after the stealth nerf , was thinking is a dark elve now better with the increased weapon damage nearly the same stamina boost and as a newly
christened vampire the fire buff would be very nice, any advice would be welcome, I know everyone likes the cats, but just don't think its me
Stealth is basically useless in endgame content. It's only useful for thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood Story quests.
As a nightblade you have cloak anyways so you don't have to worry. If you like Wood Elf keep playing it.Flawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi so was playing as a wood elve, but after the stealth nerf , was thinking is a dark elve now better with the increased weapon damage nearly the same stamina boost and as a newly
christened vampire the fire buff would be very nice, any advice would be welcome, I know everyone likes the cats, but just don't think its me
Stealth is basically useless in endgame content. It's only useful for thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood Story quests.
As a nightblade you have cloak anyways so you don't have to worry. If you like Wood Elf keep playing it.
Op didn’t state pve or pvp. Stealth is not useless in end game if your endgame is pvp. The new passive is useless because 3 meters of stealth detection is under the range you need to be effective. Incap is 5 meters, even jabs is 6 meters. No one in pvp Attacks from stealth in under melee range unless they have Cloak or an invisibility potion (and the passive doesn’t work against that).#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom3 -
Rowjoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've changed from Bosmer to Dark Elf (Dunmer).
Bosmer stealth bonuses have been taken away and as a PVP stamblade who plays mostly in stealth the replacement speed passive is next to useless to me.
on the plus side the extra Magicka (great for an extra cloak or two), flame resist and weapon damage should more than make up for the loss
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twilightwarrick✭✭✭I've changed from Bosmer to Dark Elf (Dunmer).
Bosmer stealth bonuses have been taken away and as a PVP stamblade who plays mostly in stealth the replacement speed passive is next to useless to me.
on the plus side the extra Magicka (great for an extra cloak or two), flame resist and weapon damage should more than make up for the loss
yeah I'm gonna do it , dark elves are cool too1 -
NyassaV✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi so was playing as a wood elve, but after the stealth nerf , was thinking is a dark elve now better with the increased weapon damage nearly the same stamina boost and as a newly
christened vampire the fire buff would be very nice, any advice would be welcome, I know everyone likes the cats, but just don't think its me
Stealth is basically useless in endgame content. It's only useful for thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood Story quests.
As a nightblade you have cloak anyways so you don't have to worry. If you like Wood Elf keep playing it.
Op didn’t state pve or pvp. Stealth is not useless in end game if your endgame is pvp. The new passive is useless because 3 meters of stealth detection is under the range you need to be effective. Incap is 5 meters, even jabs is 6 meters. No one in pvp Attacks from stealth in under melee range unless they have Cloak or an invisibility potion (and the passive doesn’t work against that).
Stealth is still pretty useless in PvP. The passive made a very little difference. Besides the OP has cloak
Flawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info1 -
twilightwarrick✭✭✭*** I cant change because I don't have the play all races dlc or something,
that's really crap if they change the skill lines the race tokens should allow you to pick any race.
My god zenimax and bethesha are money hungry pricks
this game is really starting to suck, you made the changes, let us change for free5 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Orc is the best race for any stamina class right now. Dunmer isn't far behind.3 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭twilightwarrick wrote: »*** I cant change because I don't have the play all races dlc or something,
that's really crap if they change the skill lines the race tokens should allow you to pick any race.
My god zenimax and bethesha are money hungry pricks
this game is really starting to suck, you made the changes, let us change for free
Yep, that's what you call getting ZO$'d.5 -
Emmagoldman✭✭✭✭✭
✭You know you Think of your play style. In pvp, expedition is incrediably strong, especially if you can los. Have fun chasing a bosmer in a tower fight and should be strong in bgs.
In pvp, think of how you play. Plenty of people on forums will think based on a parse dumming reading.
Stealth is nice if your nb heavy attacks into SA for an opener. If thats you open or your looking to make a brawler, or gank build maybe change up.
But if you poison inject then gap close, you're revealed anyways. Consider senche and maybe impreg as you can go with several well fitted pieces.
Still viable for sure, just think of how you want to play.
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Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭For pvp, bosmer is still fine.
Orc is a good choice too. Even nord if you want more of a brawler build.0 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I've been playing nightblade with dark elf for a while. Originally made him a magblade, but with the racial changes, I've been able to flip him back and forth between magblade and stamblade fairly seamlessly, with respeccing of course. For both PVP and PVE, too.0 -
hakan✭✭✭✭✭Afaik your bosmer bonus stealth damage didnt work for cloak. So youve lost nothing.
i was playing dunmer stamblade before these patches, and look how i got rewarded
orc is the best one for pvp tho. that flame resistance (besides immunity) makes you take 2-3 percent less damage. not that big of a deal.0 -
LiquidPony✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi so was playing as a wood elve, but after the stealth nerf , was thinking is a dark elve now better with the increased weapon damage nearly the same stamina boost and as a newly
christened vampire the fire buff would be very nice, any advice would be welcome, I know everyone likes the cats, but just don't think its me
Stealth is basically useless in endgame content. It's only useful for thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood Story quests.
As a nightblade you have cloak anyways so you don't have to worry. If you like Wood Elf keep playing it.
Op didn’t state pve or pvp. Stealth is not useless in end game if your endgame is pvp. The new passive is useless because 3 meters of stealth detection is under the range you need to be effective. Incap is 5 meters, even jabs is 6 meters. No one in pvp Attacks from stealth in under melee range unless they have Cloak or an invisibility potion (and the passive doesn’t work against that).
This doesn't seem right. The new Bosmer passive increases stealth detection radius by 3 meters, it doesn't make it 3 meters flat.0 -
LiquidPony✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »Orc is the best race for any stamina class right now. Dunmer isn't far behind.
Dunmer is not going to be any better than Khajiit/Redguard/Bosmer for a huge chunk of the playerbase unless they enjoy playing with a bit more than 15k base health.0 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Most things will work. Yes; Orc will be tops for adding melee damage and Nords to add some tankiness, and Bosmer if you want to trolrollol. Personaly; my NB relies more on magicka off pools than some of my other classes so I am debating between Khajiit and Dark Elf. The Cloack garauntees crit and khajiit boosts the damage there. Bosmer I find the max magicka better for the off pool than the little recovery and smaller pool khajiit gets, and the fire resist is not huge but its something.0 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LiquidPony wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Orc is the best race for any stamina class right now. Dunmer isn't far behind.
Dunmer is not going to be any better than Khajiit/Redguard/Bosmer for a huge chunk of the playerbase unless they enjoy playing with a bit more than 15k base health.
You get 16k health with the new CP scaling.Edited by MLGProPlayer on February 25, 2019 9:41PM0 -
LiquidPony✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Orc is the best race for any stamina class right now. Dunmer isn't far behind.
Dunmer is not going to be any better than Khajiit/Redguard/Bosmer for a huge chunk of the playerbase unless they enjoy playing with a bit more than 15k base health.
You get 16k health with the new CP scaling.
No ... in 7 medium a Dunmer stamblade will have ~15.3k health with Dubious and ~15.5k with Artaeum Takeaway Broth. And that's with a Shadow ability slotted. On a standard PvE backbar it's ~14.9k health with Dubious and ~15.2k with Artateum Takeaway Broth.
And you can't sustain a fight that lasts longer than about 30 seconds on an Orc/Dunmer without using regen food.1 -
El_Borracho✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭LiquidPony wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Orc is the best race for any stamina class right now. Dunmer isn't far behind.
Dunmer is not going to be any better than Khajiit/Redguard/Bosmer for a huge chunk of the playerbase unless they enjoy playing with a bit more than 15k base health.
You get 16k health with the new CP scaling.
No ... in 7 medium a Dunmer stamblade will have ~15.3k health with Dubious and ~15.5k with Artaeum Takeaway Broth. And that's with a Shadow ability slotted. On a standard PvE backbar it's ~14.9k health with Dubious and ~15.2k with Artateum Takeaway Broth.
And you can't sustain a fight that lasts longer than about 30 seconds on an Orc/Dunmer without using regen food.
You could go to purple tri-stat or braised rabbit. And leeching strikes helps with sustain0 -
itscompton✭✭✭✭✭
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Just stop, the ignorance hurts my eyes.twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi so was playing as a wood elve, but after the stealth nerf , was thinking is a dark elve now better with the increased weapon damage nearly the same stamina boost and as a newly
christened vampire the fire buff would be very nice, any advice would be welcome, I know everyone likes the cats, but just don't think its me
Stealth is basically useless in endgame content. It's only useful for thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood Story quests.
As a nightblade you have cloak anyways so you don't have to worry. If you like Wood Elf keep playing it.
Op didn’t state pve or pvp. Stealth is not useless in end game if your endgame is pvp. The new passive is useless because 3 meters of stealth detection is under the range you need to be effective. Incap is 5 meters, even jabs is 6 meters. No one in pvp Attacks from stealth in under melee range unless they have Cloak or an invisibility potion (and the passive doesn’t work against that).
Stealth is still pretty useless in PvP. The passive made a very little difference. Besides the OP has cloak
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LiquidPony✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭El_Borracho wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »Orc is the best race for any stamina class right now. Dunmer isn't far behind.
Dunmer is not going to be any better than Khajiit/Redguard/Bosmer for a huge chunk of the playerbase unless they enjoy playing with a bit more than 15k base health.
You get 16k health with the new CP scaling.
No ... in 7 medium a Dunmer stamblade will have ~15.3k health with Dubious and ~15.5k with Artaeum Takeaway Broth. And that's with a Shadow ability slotted. On a standard PvE backbar it's ~14.9k health with Dubious and ~15.2k with Artateum Takeaway Broth.
And you can't sustain a fight that lasts longer than about 30 seconds on an Orc/Dunmer without using regen food.
You could go to purple tri-stat or braised rabbit. And leeching strikes helps with sustain
I'm not sure what problem tri-stat food is supposed to solve. And every NB is already running Leeching Strikes. You still won't be able to sustain any real fight without regen food or some other sacrifice (regen glyph, absorb stam enchant, heavy attacks, etc.) that negates any DPS advantage Dunmer have over Khajiit/Bosmer/Redguard to begin with.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi so was playing as a wood elve, but after the stealth nerf , was thinking is a dark elve now better with the increased weapon damage nearly the same stamina boost and as a newly
christened vampire the fire buff would be very nice, any advice would be welcome, I know everyone likes the cats, but just don't think its me
Stealth is basically useless in endgame content. It's only useful for thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood Story quests.
As a nightblade you have cloak anyways so you don't have to worry. If you like Wood Elf keep playing it.
Op didn’t state pve or pvp. Stealth is not useless in end game if your endgame is pvp. The new passive is useless because 3 meters of stealth detection is under the range you need to be effective. Incap is 5 meters, even jabs is 6 meters. No one in pvp Attacks from stealth in under melee range unless they have Cloak or an invisibility potion (and the passive doesn’t work against that).
Stealth is still pretty useless in PvP. The passive made a very little difference. Besides the OP has cloak
Stealth is useless in pvp. are you trolling?
The OP has cloak... do you think cloak is always on? It has to be cast every few seconds. A stam character can cast it 3-4 times before needing to rest in crouch or take a potion.
If it’s not your area of expertise it’s okay to sit it out, no shade.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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|| CP 1000+ || PC/NA || GUILDS: LWH; IA; CH; XA
""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom2 -
max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LiquidPony wrote: »twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi so was playing as a wood elve, but after the stealth nerf , was thinking is a dark elve now better with the increased weapon damage nearly the same stamina boost and as a newly
christened vampire the fire buff would be very nice, any advice would be welcome, I know everyone likes the cats, but just don't think its me
Stealth is basically useless in endgame content. It's only useful for thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood Story quests.
As a nightblade you have cloak anyways so you don't have to worry. If you like Wood Elf keep playing it.
Op didn’t state pve or pvp. Stealth is not useless in end game if your endgame is pvp. The new passive is useless because 3 meters of stealth detection is under the range you need to be effective. Incap is 5 meters, even jabs is 6 meters. No one in pvp Attacks from stealth in under melee range unless they have Cloak or an invisibility potion (and the passive doesn’t work against that).
This doesn't seem right. The new Bosmer passive increases stealth detection radius by 3 meters, it doesn't make it 3 meters flat.
So you’ve tried it?#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
#OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
|| CP 1000+ || PC/NA || GUILDS: LWH; IA; CH; XA
""All gods' creatures (you lot) are equal when covered in A1 sauce"" -- Old Bosmeri Wisdom1 -
Unfadingsilence✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm staying woodelf especially since this new update is even better I really enjoy 40k max 3k recovery and 5k WD and 20k penetration
Ik the stats are low on the max side but I think it's wonderful0 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »I'm staying woodelf especially since this new update is even better I really enjoy 40k max 3k recovery and 5k WD and 20k penetration
Ik the stats are low on the max side but I think it's wonderful
Ran into a few bow woodelf NBs. They are trolly as hell yet cant be ignored.Edited by technohic on February 26, 2019 11:49AM0
