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Who's not going to extend their subscription?

  • ml_182b16_ESO
    As it stands now, I will not be subbing.
  • ZackMeck
    ZackMeck
    It's been 4 days, I will absolutely not renew my sub. Every attempt at actually getting a hold of anyone has been met by just disregard. I'm canceling it now, I regret even buying the imperial edition.
    Edited by ZOS_JoanaL on April 9, 2014 4:07AM
  • cheeser123
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    I have a slightly different plan, but for now, I still plan on canceling eventually if things don't change:

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/73781/here-s-my-plan
  • aedra
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    I've had a really smooth experience with this game so far and have had no regrets purchasing the Imperial Edition. I personally foresee at least 3 months playtime as well but beyond that I don't know. The 3 month mark is when I start to get very bored with MMOs and need a break. I am at least liking this much more then Guild Wars 2, but time can only tell if this game can hold interest long term.
  • byghostlightrwb17_ESO
    Audigy wrote: »
    The game is in a much better state than AOC, Warhammer or SWTOR were when they saw their release.

    Age of Conan had no content after level 30, Warhammer had a slight show due a bugged client that never got fixed and SWTOR was shipped without HD textures and a few weeks later they wiped all the char names too ...

    TESO has everything so you can play for many weeks, the graphics are great and it runs very smooth (at least it did before last patch on my rig).

    The problems with the retailers and ZO about codes, shipping etc. are unfortunate and a real shame. I am in contact with the customer service since Sunday and hopefully tomorrow when I log in my items are finally there. That said, I got fast replies and at least the last ticket seemed to indicate that help is on the way.

    If I will keep my sub? I don't know yet. I definitely want to, but a lot depends on the current situation about the pre order items and if a content patch will be announced.

    Why those two things?

    1. If they can solve the problem then it shows me they care. Its not even their fault, but they still try to help and this counts a lot in my books.

    2. Content patches usually show a direction for the game. I am not a hardcore raider anymore, so for me its important that stuff like a thieves guild, maybe new crafts or public group quest´s are also coming and not just raids for premades like at wow.

    I played SWTOR on day one and it was nearly flawless for me. Far ahead of the launch of ESO in every way. I didn't trip over broken quests and bad combat lag.

    Rift was pretty good too. Almost as much as SWTOR.

    The only thing worse about WoW at launch was the database bugs that made looting take forever at times, and it did have some down time.. But combining all 3 of those MMOs, none comes close to ESO with the number of broken quests, glitchy character skills, and combat lag.

    I have been playing since five day early access opening hour, yet to see a single buggy quest, glitchy skills or the like. In fact if I didn't come to the forums I wouldn't know about any of that. Does the game have strange lag issues every now and again, of course, most launching MMO's have that.

    The point is not everyone's gaming experience is the same for everyone, and its hardly a sign of their quality or longevity. EG have to say SWTOR was way worse for me, Rift was amazingly stable. WoW was ghastly and EQ2 was unsatisfying temperamental to say the least. Yet strange I went on to play EQ2 for 10 years solid. Best gaming experience ever, but if I judged on those first four days I physically couldn't played, I would have missed out of 10 years of massive fun.




    Edited by byghostlightrwb17_ESO on April 9, 2014 4:05AM
  • Sapphy24
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    As an older player and a player of most of the mmo's that have come out in the last 10 years I offer my views. Basically its a good game and might become a great game depending on dev input. The scenery is great, the characters are good so there's a lot to be happy about, and new games have bugs a million BUT ...
    The two main problems for me are..
    I work my butt off to get some gold only to find half of it goes to repairing my armour, that's if I don't have another piece of armour to replace it. I get charged far too much to travel anywhere, and I have to pay to actually DO A QUEST. Are you serious?
    I beseech you " the devs" lower the prices then the grind factor fades into the background, at the moment, I'm so unhappy that i'm seriously thinking of leaving the game. GRINDING for gold is NEVER fun.
    Lower the prices... please.

    I'm so sorry but i'm supposed to be having fun, and.. I'M NOT.

    The game isn't ready to be released, but you have released it. I spend so much time logging on and being ejected for one reason or another that my grumpy level is through the roof. I'm usually a nice calm woman but this game is turning me into a screaming banshee.
    PLEASE please rethink your charges on everything in the game from travel to armour and I can overlook the bugs to an extent, but these two things together are just too much for me right now.
    Thank you for giving me a voice to say to you what I feel. I hope this game will be a roaring success but you have a long way to go yet.
  • Woodwanderer
    I must admit I love the topic here. It really brings up the issue that applies to any future of that game and that is:
    "How many peaople will be still playing it?"
    Couse with no players there's no game.
    I can speak for myself that I really intend to stay here with the game couse I just enjoy it most of any MMOs I've played. Despite the ahead charging which kinda moves me most I still do.
    Considering there'll be the community to play with...
  • Girault
    Girault
    I'm gonna let my 30 days run their course and cancel my sub before they end. If Zeni makes a reasonable recovery in the meantime, I may continue. If not, I'll just be disappointed and move on.
    Who knows, maybe I'll finally find time to draw again?
  • MajikMyst
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    Will I continue my subscription??

    Well, I have to subscribe first..

    I currently have two Imperial Editions in a retail box sitting the closet gather dust.. One of which is still factory sealed, neither of which has had their codes used..

    The website security has left me with doubts about whether or not I should add a credit card to my account to pay for a sub.. I had planned on using time cards to pay for my sub, but so far, I can't find a single retailer that can sells the physical cards.. Emailed codes are no bueno in my book.. I need to have some legal recourse if the code that I paid for does not work, or the ability to get support from Bethesda or Zenimax..

    So, my Imperial Editions sit and my wife and I don't play.. Because someone in their infinite wisdom didn't take into consideration that the time cards would not be AVAILABLE at launch.. This demand to pay for or setup a subscription in order to utilize the 30 days that came with my game is a very poor business practice that needs to change.. Let me have my 30 days and then decide if I want Zenimax and Bethesda to be the proud owners of all my payment and billing information.. At least then I could be happily playing while you all sort out the time card issue.. Otherwise, I will continue to wait..

    Wait for some response from someone from Bethesda or Zinemax about these issues.. When are the time cards going to reach market?? Are we going to be able to use our 30 days without having setup a subscription??

    Now about that part about continuing my subscription?? It is hard to continue something that hasn't started.. At this point I may cut my losses and sell my games on Ebay or something..

    So when is the next Skyrim?? I at least got to play that game..
    Edited by MajikMyst on April 9, 2014 4:58AM
  • fry150
    fry150
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    After my early access ended i decided to wait until the game becomes a bit more stable b4 activating my 1st 30 days of play time. I dunno how long i will wait or shud wait. I guess it'll depend on how bored i get while waiting.
  • Woodwanderer
    My pal's just bought the card yesterday both with the early edition game nearly twice cheaper then I'd done subscribing the game smth like a month ago. :) "Supporting the game": I say, that's what I did.
    Anyway, game time cards are here in Poland already.
  • Arreyanne
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    Audigy wrote: »
    The game is in a much better state than AOC, Warhammer or SWTOR were when they saw their release.

    Age of Conan had no content after level 30, Warhammer had a slight show due a bugged client that never got fixed and SWTOR was shipped without HD textures and a few weeks later they wiped all the char names too ...

    TESO has everything so you can play for many weeks, the graphics are great and it runs very smooth (at least it did before last patch on my rig).

    The problems with the retailers and ZO about codes, shipping etc. are unfortunate and a real shame. I am in contact with the customer service since Sunday and hopefully tomorrow when I log in my items are finally there. That said, I got fast replies and at least the last ticket seemed to indicate that help is on the way.

    If I will keep my sub? I don't know yet. I definitely want to, but a lot depends on the current situation about the pre order items and if a content patch will be announced.

    Why those two things?

    1. If they can solve the problem then it shows me they care. Its not even their fault, but they still try to help and this counts a lot in my books.

    2. Content patches usually show a direction for the game. I am not a hardcore raider anymore, so for me its important that stuff like a thieves guild, maybe new crafts or public group quest´s are also coming and not just raids for premades like at wow.

    I played SWTOR on day one and it was nearly flawless for me. Far ahead of the launch of ESO in every way. I didn't trip over broken quests and bad combat lag.

    Rift was pretty good too. Almost as much as SWTOR.

    The only thing worse about WoW at launch was the database bugs that made looting take forever at times, and it did have some down time.. But combining all 3 of those MMOs, none comes close to ESO with the number of broken quests, glitchy character skills, and combat lag.

    I agree with you SWTOR as far as I remember didn't have broken quest, Rift had a few hiccups but nothing like ESO. Seems to me I get to the end of a solo quest everyday that is bugged beyond hope.

    Oh and BTW I didn't day the content or texture were great wonderful or anything like that. I said the quest weren't FUBAR

    And honestly to me the graphics in this game remind me of Oblivion and before that like something from 1999
    Edited by Arreyanne on April 9, 2014 5:20AM
  • MarRyb
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    I'll give a chance to this game because it deserves it a lot. So I will subscribe.

    With a huge projects like this is normal that you have many sort of problems or errors. Technically speaking, is almost impossible to deliver project without any errors so please be patient as I'm sure they are working hard to figure it out.

    For those who wanted perfect smooth game ... sorry guys it is NOT POSSIBLE. You will have always bugs of any kind as players will progress thorough the system of this game. So be patient it will be less and less bugs in the future. It is just first week of the game anyway.

    For those who are waiting for customer support replies any minute. Sorry for you guys too, but reading thru piles of tickets is not a fun as playing the game, especially when 80% are just irrelevant entries from customers. On the other hand, Zenimax should fix this as well as they might consider to put more effort to help players, especially with several payment or login issues.

    To conclude with, I won't regret any cent or second I spent on this game.

    Thanks guys and good luck with this game.
  • Nooblet
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    I see what was done. the OP created a thread hoping to bring all the people that are unhappy with the game to. That way they can be contained in a single thread of ESO bashing.

    Well done OP, only time will tell if the mass creating of duplicate threads for silly issues continues.
  • Chomppa
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    Looking to resub , aside from bugs and glitces I am happy with the game .
    :):D:(;):\:o:s:p :'( :|B):#o:)<3 (*) >:)
  • suhuy0eb17_ESO
    suhuy0eb17_ESO
    Soul Shriven
    I do not plan to renew their subscription.
    Unfortunately, despite the excellent RPG part, IMO part - a complete failure.
    Almost any online aspect of the game is made very poorly. No auction, disgusting dungeon loot system, extremely uncomfortable inventory, poor quality of loot and rewards.
    Edited by suhuy0eb17_ESO on April 9, 2014 5:43AM
  • Sharee
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    Sapphy24 wrote: »
    I get charged far too much to travel anywhere

    I'm not sure if you realize this, but travelling is free if you initiate the travel at a shrine. It only costs gold if you initiate the travel in the middle of nowhere. So if you want to save gold, just walk to the nearest shrine first and click on it.

    Edited by Sharee on April 9, 2014 5:51AM
  • Perseas
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    me to, i'll get to v10 and then decide. Cyrodiil means nothing to me, but I have my concerns about content. I am lvl 47 by now and I am doing lvl 10-30 quests (forgotten), be able to lvl up! There is no other quests.

    I feel uncomfortable lvling my 47lvl with lvl 10-30 quests... There is no balance between these... U get the xp from questing little lvl quests, you only miss the loot. If I am lvl 10, I love to do quests between lvl 6-13... if I am lvl 20 I love doing quests between 16-23 and so on... It needs balancing, but its early, lets wait a bit and see how it goes.

    Cyrodiil have many quests, but the way it is, its unfriendly. The distances are huge to travel by feet or horse and if u die, you have to travel all over again and again... soooo tiring.

    They advertised the adventure zones, then they pushed back adventure zones as an "extra content" in the feature... but heres the problem, I straggle lvling up. Will see how it goes.
    Edited by Perseas on April 9, 2014 5:56AM
  • Paske
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    Normal MMO launch.

    Played most of AAA MMO-s in last 8 years on launch day, this is no different. I would say its surprisingly free of bugs compared to other MMO-s ( including WOW that was essentially broken for more then a month and had lag issues for more then 6 months after launch ).

    The game is good, damn good in fact. Bugs are being ironed out, as they allways are. Devs are on the ball it seems, support is OK ( wouldn't go past that ), business side is, as allways, horrible.

    Problems like - I didn't get my pet are not really problems, its just people being drama queens.

    So, yes, I will stay subed. Good game, lots of fun and definitely better then othr AAA MMO-s out there ( and yes I did actually play all of them ).

    I do understand some people are having a hard time accepting this is not F2P game, but some people have a hard time accepting sun not revolving around earth.

    Really looking forward to future with ESO.
  • Carnage2K4
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    bugs, I can deal with no issue, they are just a fact of a launch.
    but I still think the sub/buy to get your free 30 days is a poor move they they didn't need to do. I'll get games cards, and I still want to play, but the GF is taking a stand atm... she didn't need to sub for WoW, she's not going to sub for TESO, when it all settles she might pick up a gamecard to finally get her 30, but for now... I'm all alone :(, just a ring with her Characters name on it...
    Human Infant Connoisseur
  • Loxy37
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    I'll sub as long as I can log in a bit every day. If for whatever reason I start to get plagued by issues like some have then I will reasses my situation but I'll probably still sub just to give zenimax some extra capital for a game I love. If ESO doesn't fix major issues or improve the game within 3 months then I will leave until things get better.
  • NombreDeLaBeast
    MajikMyst wrote: »
    Will I continue my subscription??

    Because someone in their infinite wisdom didn't take into consideration that the time cards would not be AVAILABLE at launch..

    So much of this. There have been people that have pointed to websites, ESO support pages, and other pages that are even established and commented on by Zeni themselves that say that timecards would be available day one...Ok so where are they?
  • Pahebe
    Pahebe
    Well, I already extended my sub to 90 days as soon as time cards were available.

    Not bugs concern me tho, but customer support. I understand it's harsh start, and thousands of whinners and such stuff, but waiting almost 3 days for answer to a simple question is just wrong.

    I could read in some discussion earlier something about that in sub games you get "premium experience" and it's "AAA title". Don't feel any of it that much now, but still want to give it a chance.
  • AngryNord
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    I bought a 3-month sub. Whether that'll be extended, Depends on the condition the game is in in July.
  • Axzaril
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    I have enjoyed my time in ESO so far. I will be subbing, ESO is my game of choice at this time. Like many I have played multiple mmos, the launch for me has been fine, nothing unexpected.

    I think one of the major issues with launches these days is that the player base for an mmo is much more informed/experienced. Therefore there is a higher standard expected at launch compared to when the likes of when EQ, EQ2 or even when WoW launched. Combine that with a myriad of options in regards to game options available and it doesn't take much for players to move on and look for something with greener grass.

    In my opinion the best thing to do if you're dissatisfied with the current state of ESO is either to continue to support and to continue to provide feedback or to not sub and move on for a time and come back in 6 months.

    I do think though it is a little premature to be throwing in the towel this early on, but again that is my opinion. Stay or leave? Neither of those is really a wrong decision. Make a decision and go with it. Can always change your mind later on.

    I will support ESO for now! :)
    Edited by Axzaril on April 9, 2014 6:20AM
  • panemetcircenses
    I'll buy my next 30 days because I have to if I want to use my first 30 days, seeing as how I prefer using a Game Time Card. I do plan to wait a bit before actually buying the card, though, partly because I haven't seen one as of yet and partly because I might as well save my 60 days until I have more free time than I do now. The initial excitement cooled with the enforced wait, which is probably not in Zenimax's favor, but we'll see once I get back into the game; the Early Access was pretty good.

    [Edit] To save space, Axzaril, I was referring to my preference for using a Game Time Card and the purchase requirement that results from that. If you want to use a Game Time Card rather than your Credit Card/PayPal, you must enter the code from a Game Time Card. Thus, you must actually buy the Game Time Card before you can access your included 30 days.
    Edited by panemetcircenses on April 9, 2014 6:55AM
  • Axzaril
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    I'll buy my next 30 days because I have to if I want to use my first 30 days, seeing as how I prefer using a Game Time Card. I do plan to wait a bit before actually buying the card, though, partly because I haven't seen one as of yet and partly because I might as well save my 60 days until I have more free time than I do now. The initial excitement cooled with the enforced wait, which is probably not in Zenimax's favor, but we'll see once I get back into the game; the Early Access was pretty good.

    They dont actually charge your CC as far as I am aware? So you dont have to pay to make use of the 30 days. At least I have not been charged.
  • Girault
    Girault
    Axzaril wrote: »
    I'll buy my next 30 days because I have to if I want to use my first 30 days, seeing as how I prefer using a Game Time Card. I do plan to wait a bit before actually buying the card, though, partly because I haven't seen one as of yet and partly because I might as well save my 60 days until I have more free time than I do now. The initial excitement cooled with the enforced wait, which is probably not in Zenimax's favor, but we'll see once I get back into the game; the Early Access was pretty good.

    They dont actually charge your CC as far as I am aware? So you dont have to pay to make use of the 30 days. At least I have not been charged.
    Shows up as a withdrawal on my bank statement, not a holding charge.

  • Spiritreaver_ESO
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    Eris wrote: »
    I feel badly for the people who are having troubles, but for me, this launch has been the smoothest launch since LOTRO. I had some verify-redownload issues with patch 1.01 but other than that, nothing. The only bug I thought I had was my own fault because I didn't realize I needed to actually wear the disguise to get into a castle... once I figured that out, I was golden - but again my bad not theirs.

    As for this thread, really I wonder why people are posting in it that plan to resub because the guy was trolling for people who didn't want to resub and with the title and the number of replies its deceptive at least.

    Personally, i posted in this thread because the OP left the door open asking for opinions from both groups, the ppl planning to resub and those planning not to.

  • ToBbErT
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    I unfortunately asked for a refund simply for the fact that zenimax is ignoring loyal customers. Just some basic communication and a global apology would have kept me here but the silence is just ridiculous. If zenimax shows some sympathy and admit there mistakes i might come back couse the game is amazing. Forcing people without CC to pay one month in advance in order to get the included 30 days playtime is unacceptable.
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