When is ZOS going to address the worsening "Stuck in Combat" bug in PvP????

leeux · January 2019

At this point it's starting to look as if they want it to be that way, for some morbid reason.

freespirit · January 2019

Am I the only person who has played multiple MMO's and seen bugs like this in all of them??

Even 10yr old games have the update issue of "fix one thing, break ten"

The stuck in combat bug really annoys me, I play mag characters so my stamina for sprinting is non existent BUT it is what it is, I either die or get away with it

shaielzafine · January 2019

freespirit wrote: »

Am I the only person who has played multiple MMO's and seen bugs like this in all of them??

Even 10yr old games have the update issue of "fix one thing, break ten"

The stuck in combat bug really annoys me, I play mag characters so my stamina for sprinting is non existent BUT it is what it is, I either die or get away with it

I've gotten to end game in WoW & GW2, I haven't encountered bugs related to character movement like this. Especially not for PVP. Just started playing FFXIV and I haven't been getting any there either (ex. sprint bug where you can't cast abilities, combat bug as stated on this thread, disappearing weapons on bar swap). It's annoying when I log on and hop on Cyrodiil and I go from 120 frames on ff / gw2 and it's back to 30 fps or less, it starts getting laggy / buggy and then have to log out and back in to fix combat bug.

DLM · January 2019

It is not even limited to PvP. I see that happening in dungeons regularly where you can't get through doors because the game still considers you in combat (if you crouch you will see the full opened eye).

MajBludd · January 2019

Its soon to be a feature. Just like animation canceling

Girl_Number8 · January 2019

Lord_Wrath wrote: »

Didnt they come out with a fix for this long long ago? Something like, after 6 seconds of doing nothing you would be pulled out of combat? What happened to that?

They are looking into it....coughs *at their piles of cash* Though in cyro I wish it would only last for six seconds, smh.

Jitterbug · January 2019

Last I heard they are going to fix it in 2015

Casandra · February 2019

This is getting so horrible it's not playable for certain classes. If you are stamina the bug will not let you restore resources while in combat, so, you are screwed.

I am getting so sick of this... if it doesn't change, I see alot of players dropping their monthly sub Including me.

Yasha · February 2019

Shantu wrote: »

Just get rid of it. I never understood the point of it to begin with. If you jump your mount and attempt to ride away in combat, you'll be shot in the back and killed anyway. And when a dog snarls at you you're in combat? I don't think so.

If you have a fully upgraded mount you can easily get away from players without being dismounted, unless a whole group of sorcs are shooting at u or something.

Palidon · February 2019

If ZOS was going to fix the problem they would have by now or at least acknowledged it. So the answer is NEVER. If you are a paid subscriber stop your subscription and give the reason why the combat bug or game performance issues. Hurt ZOS where it will get their attention. Money loss.

TheMikrobe · February 2019

Welkynar wrote: »

I experienced it last week but once I sheathed my weapon I wasn't in combat anymore. Idk if it's the solution or coincidence though

There are so many myths about how to break out of the bug. Sheathe/unsheath weapons, crouch a few times, swap weapon bars, kill a random mudcrab or wolf. None work reliably, probably all are just coincidence.

I can understand not allowing players to change equipped items or skills, but they should allow you to get on a horse, travel from a transit shrine and change your quick slot items while still in combat. Those three things would do so much to reduce frustration levels, none would introduce game-breaking imbalance. Then they can take as long as they need to fix the bug.

VaranisArano · February 2019

Palidon wrote: »

If ZOS was going to fix the problem they would have by now or at least acknowledged it. So the answer is NEVER. If you are a paid subscriber stop your subscription and give the reason why the combat bug or game performance issues. Hurt ZOS where it will get their attention. Money loss.

They did acknlowedge it in the latest class rep meeting notes. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019

Here's the relevant part:

PVP stuff

Stuck in Combat: Unfortunately while ZOS has engineers working on this issue, it’s there and it’s going to be there until they get a handle on the issue. This prompted frustration and contention. ZOS made it clear they do not want to implement “band-aid” fixes and that the in-combat state was a core feature necessary for numerous combat systems. They indicated that they suffer the same bug and are also frustrated with it.

After some pressing, it became clear that getting passionate over the issue is not going to alleviate the situation, fix the bug, or prompt useful discussion. That being said, there are some things that ZOS indicated they are agreeable with to make it such that this super frustrating bug isn’t so destructive. One thing they specifically mentioned was they saw no reason why being in combat ought to prevent the use of the transitus wayshrines. Another possibility that perhaps can be explored is at least being able to change quickslots. I know this is not what anyone was looking for, but it is what it is and if you’re going to play Cyrodiil next update, then I highly suggest you channel your frustrations into useful suggestions that can make PvP playable while being stuck in combat as ZOS indicated that is something that they can do.

AyeshaBelladonna · February 2019

freespirit wrote: »

Am I the only person who has played multiple MMO's and seen bugs like this in all of them??

Even 10yr old games have the update issue of "fix one thing, break ten"

The stuck in combat bug really annoys me, I play mag characters so my stamina for sprinting is non existent BUT it is what it is, I either die or get away with it

Problem for the last couple months though is EVEN DYING isn't removing it lol. i can't tell you how many times just las night my entire team was stuck in combat. after dying. and resign at the GATE, let alone at a keep. this is getting out of hand.

Soleya · February 2019

It's great in a battleground, you die, respawn and want to change around abilities but you can't cause your stuck in combat for the entire battleground.

It also feels like the bug happens more often and lasts long on my warden vs other classes. Not sure why.

AyeshaBelladonna · February 2019

VaranisArano wrote: »

Palidon wrote: »

If ZOS was going to fix the problem they would have by now or at least acknowledged it. So the answer is NEVER. If you are a paid subscriber stop your subscription and give the reason why the combat bug or game performance issues. Hurt ZOS where it will get their attention. Money loss.

They did acknlowedge it in the latest class rep meeting notes. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019

Here's the relevant part:
PVP stuff

Stuck in Combat: Unfortunately while ZOS has engineers working on this issue, it’s there and it’s going to be there until they get a handle on the issue. This prompted frustration and contention. ZOS made it clear they do not want to implement “band-aid” fixes and that the in-combat state was a core feature necessary for numerous combat systems. They indicated that they suffer the same bug and are also frustrated with it.

After some pressing, it became clear that getting passionate over the issue is not going to alleviate the situation, fix the bug, or prompt useful discussion. That being said, there are some things that ZOS indicated they are agreeable with to make it such that this super frustrating bug isn’t so destructive. One thing they specifically mentioned was they saw no reason why being in combat ought to prevent the use of the transitus wayshrines. Another possibility that perhaps can be explored is at least being able to change quickslots. I know this is not what anyone was looking for, but it is what it is and if you’re going to play Cyrodiil next update, then I highly suggest you channel your frustrations into useful suggestions that can make PvP playable while being stuck in combat as ZOS indicated that is something that they can do.

It's not a perfect solution, but yeah being able to Transitus and swap quick slots would go a LONG WAY towards making it something we can be patient about. i spoke to Joy about it just before that last meeting while we were out in Cyrodiil- glad to see she followed up with her promise of pushing the issue to address it and find a compromise! Thanks for linking this as i somehow overlooked the class rep meeting note!

PunkAben · February 2019

calm down !
57 % of the game works fine
You can't expect eso can keep bring news and also fix error in games.
Lern to deal with bugs and error it will never get better.

Vapirko · February 2019

Feanor wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

First thing I'm going to bring up at our meeting.

And if I hear "We're looking into it," I'm going to say that's no longer good enough.

Last thing we heard from Gina was that they “have a pretty good idea what’s causing it”. But it seems that they have not an idea yet how to fix it. It’s disappointing.

I thought they said they just weren’t sure how they wanted it to function exactly. Maybe that’s fancy talk for we can’t fix it.

jcm2606 · February 2019

The entire combat state needs a complete rewrite. It shouldn't be based on your group, at all. Utterly insane that it even was to begin with.

Mayrael · February 2019

Unsubscribed already. This was one of the reasons. This bug is not connected to being in a group (edit:well at least not in the cause-effect way). Even when I'm running completely solo, this bug still exists. It looks like when you exchange hits with someone you will be stuck in combat untill:
1. One of you dies.
2. Both of you stop fighting.

AyeshaBelladonna · February 2019

Mayrael wrote: »

Unsubscribed already. This was one of the reasons. This bug is not connected to being in a group (edit:well at least not in the cause-effect way). Even when I'm running completely solo, this bug still exists. It looks like when you exchange hits with someone you will be stuck in combat untill:
1. One of you dies.
2. Both of you stop fighting.

if you could get out of it by dying, that would be an improvement. i can personally attest that on MULTIPLE occasions in this last several weeks that dying rarely had any affect on whether or not i was in combat. Also, i absolutely get put into combat as soon as my group member is in combat. this has been an annoyance forever. yes this bug is also happening (the getting stuck part) running solo- but group member combat is also a trigger for the game considering you in combat just in general doesn't matter where you are and that has always been a stupid approach to combat by zos. ideally you should come out of combat within several seconds of stopping fighting but that isn't what's happening. even when you and your target stop OR you and your group members stop, its persisting.

Mayrael · February 2019

@AyeshaBelladonna
Well dying for me helps because usually I run without group, after death I have never been stuck in combat thus it can be connected with group. It always used to work like that whenever your group member is in combat you are to, but only when in sight distance. When you were further it didn't put you in combat.

disintegr8 · February 2019

I'm always running solo on Cyrodiil and I frequently get this after a fight. Sometimes it lasts until I run half way to the next keep. Just as well I mostly run stam characters in PVP.

maxjapank · February 2019

From another thread...

“Stuck in Combat: Unfortunately while ZOS has engineers working on this issue, it’s there and it’s going to be there until they get a handle on the issue. This prompted frustration and contention. ZOS made it clear they do not want to implement “band-aid” fixes and that the in-combat state was a core feature necessary for numerous combat systems. They indicated that they suffer the same bug and are also frustrated with it.

After some pressing, it became clear that getting passionate over the issue is not going to alleviate the situation, fix the bug, or prompt useful discussion. That being said, there are some things that ZOS indicated they are agreeable with to make it such that this super frustrating bug isn’t so destructive. One thing they specifically mentioned was they saw no reason why being in combat ought to prevent the use of the transitus wayshrines. Another possibility that perhaps can be explored is at least being able to change quickslots. I know this is not what anyone was looking for, but it is what it is and if you’re going to play Cyrodiil next update, then I highly suggest you channel your frustrations into useful suggestions that can make PvP playable while being stuck in combat as ZOS indicated that is something that they can do.”

So...in a nutshell, it’s here to stay for a while. Until their engineers can find a solution. And unfortunately, I don’t think it’s high up on their priority list. So I did the only thing I could do...which was to cancel my sub and not buy the new expansion.

Steelshiv · February 2019

I don't know if this has been mentioned or not but in Cyrodiil, if you are stuck in combat either make essence of ravage health (breaks combat by killing your character) or fight a wolf or some other pve wildlife (this breaks combat because you finish the fight) The previous two have worked for me 99% of the time.

xxthir13enxx · February 2019

FunFact: I’ve actually log’d In....stuck in combat....

lol I do t know if it somehow carried over from when I quit playing earlier...but always fun to log in at gate and not be able to use Transitus Shrine or mount...lol oh this game...such a sense of humour...

DreadKnight · February 2019

Could they allow us to have two quick slot wheels? as in one for each bar? with all the stuff we need (including the new bridge repair kits) we need more slots anyway. And if that's possible, add change of potion on bar swap to go with it too please i.e. allow different potions to be slotted on each bar

(coming from console - we only have 8 slots - I don't know if it's the same on pc)

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Also allow transit whilst in combat.
Allow mount whilst in combat.

D0PAMINE · February 2019

It happens to me all the time. Everyone around me can mount and ride away but not me. It pisses me off tbh.

Lylith · February 2019

it's even better for healers.

teladoy · February 2019

Hi and welcome to the community of frustrated pvp players! We enjoy that a new member has arrived and with him all the problems that we already have and know.

From all our experience and knowledge we suggest you to do the following to minimize the impact of the bad status of pvp.

One option is to complain for the merely act of complain. You will get no answers and you will see not solutions but at least you will be able to let it out.

The second option is to change from game. That would be the most logical but because this is anyways a good game and there is no other, then we have no options.

The third option is to accept everything and play this game broken, with all the bugs, bad quality and pvp inattention zos offer to their customers.

I hope we helped you and again welcome to the community! We see us stucks in loading screens, bgs queues and walking around in cirodill! Have a nice day!

BrokenGameMechanics · February 2019

This can be a real pain. I play a Mag Warden Support type Role. Most of my skill bar is group Buffs, Debuffs,AOEs and DOTS Heals and Damage so I'm ALWAYS in combat with someone. Not uncommon to be in a fight and afterwards watch everyone ride off while I stand there stuck in combat. Warden+AOEs+Group Buffing -> Stuck