INB4 the tsunami of "I'm quitting threads" after the last pts notes

rafaelcsmaia · February 2019

For those that didn't get it, this thread is a meme, take it with a grain of salt

Btw just checked my mailbox and still no gifts :'( :'(

JamieAubrey · February 2019

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

JamieAubrey wrote: »

WHy ? I skimmed through them, nothing not worthy that would make me go THAT'S IT I QUIT

Kinda amazed the OP didn't bother to link the notes he was talking about, but this kinda seems like a joke thread anyway so whatevs. For the record though, they are talking about these (mainly the racial carpet bombing):

PTS Patch Notes v4.3.0

Ahh, I thought it was the newest notes that was posted lol

D0PAMINE · February 2019

Jhalin wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

Kalle_Demos wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

This patch sucks and didn’t do anything but remove Argonian, Bosmer, and Khajiit from having a competitive niche

Well, I guess Khajiit are now the de facto no-combat stealth race because Bosmer literally can’t be anymore

If it's any consolation, I did Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood on a slow Tanky ass Imperial DK tank without getting noticed. It wasn't easy, but possible. I've also ganked Stealthblades on a Redguard StamDK. Maybe they can buff stealth in Medium Armor?

That does nothing to address a stealth race having its stealth removed. Adding more into sets does not restore their stealthiness as a race.

What im saying is they'll likely have an option to get the passive(s) via another skill line. One that everyone can get.

And when will that be? A year? Two? What are Bosmer players who based their entire play style around stealth to do in the mean time? The main point that many have been trying to get across is that Bosmer are supposed to be stealthier that the other races. That's what they bring to the table, that's why they were chosen, that's why players like to play them and not just in ESO but throughout the series. Improving stealth for everyone does not solve this issue.

Bosmer were never stealthier than other races in this game. Their stealthy passive was used for for the damage increase while stealthed, mostly on a Nightblade, sometimes a Stamsorc for Overload ganking. That stealth radius passive is nothing on a Nightblade who already have stealth passives and the obvious cloak. You can spam cloak and double take and still thieve or murder without getting detected. It was not make or break. Lore wise it worked, but functionally, it wasn't anything special and any bonus was negligable. You can literally cloak into the hiding barrel infront of any enemy and you will not get detected.

Yes, they were. You could never ever reach a smaller stealth radius on an Imperial than you could on a Bosmer.

Stop bringing classes into this discussion about racial passives.

And furthermore, the biggest backlash from this change has never been about the increased damage from stealth. No one has been complaining about losing out on a bonus they could get elsewhere, that furthermore had little to no effect on PvE gameplay.

They could fix all of these complaints just by giving bosmer their 3m decreased radius back instead of a stealth detection that has zero use even in PvP. The dodge rolling passive is pointless in PvE, but at least it has some minuscule use in PvP.

People are rightfully pi**ed off that Bosmer lost all their stealth bonuses after being marketed as a stealthy race for, again, five years

You can get stealth radius from other sources as well. It's useless, you're never going to need that much stealth radius. Lore Wise it makes sense, but it's not as useful as youre making it out to be. I don't understand the stealth detection replacement. Class passives and skill line passives absolutely must be mentioned, they are why Bosmers current stealthy is redundant.

Truthsnark · February 2019

You can get stealth radius from other sources as well. It's useless, you're never going to need that much stealth radius. Lore Wise it makes sense, but it's not as useful as youre making it out to be. I don't understand the stealth detection replacement. Class passives and skill line passives absolutely must be mentioned, they are why Bosmers current stealthy is redundant.

D0PAMINE, this is a garbage statement and you know it. I, like many people, rolled a Bosmer for the stealth bonus. I use it every day in PVE exclusively. I play a stealth race and a stealth class because that is the playstyle I like. Maybe YOU don't need it, but I DO. And to take away a key defining racial trait after five years that harmed no one is ludicrous.

D0PAMINE · February 2019

Truthsnark wrote: »

You can get stealth radius from other sources as well. It's useless, you're never going to need that much stealth radius. Lore Wise it makes sense, but it's not as useful as youre making it out to be. I don't understand the stealth detection replacement. Class passives and skill line passives absolutely must be mentioned, they are why Bosmers current stealthy is redundant.

D0PAMINE, this is a garbage statement and you know it. I, like many people, rolled a Bosmer for the stealth bonus. I use it every day in PVE exclusively. I play a stealth race and a stealth class because that is the playstyle I like. Maybe YOU don't need it, but I DO. And to take away a key defining racial trait after five years that harmed no one is ludicrous.

So you're Bosmer is unable to do any stealth content without that stealthy passive? Really?

Truthsnark · February 2019

D0PAMINE wrote: »

Truthsnark wrote: »

You can get stealth radius from other sources as well. It's useless, you're never going to need that much stealth radius. Lore Wise it makes sense, but it's not as useful as youre making it out to be. I don't understand the stealth detection replacement. Class passives and skill line passives absolutely must be mentioned, they are why Bosmers current stealthy is redundant.

D0PAMINE, this is a garbage statement and you know it. I, like many people, rolled a Bosmer for the stealth bonus. I use it every day in PVE exclusively. I play a stealth race and a stealth class because that is the playstyle I like. Maybe YOU don't need it, but I DO. And to take away a key defining racial trait after five years that harmed no one is ludicrous.

So you're Bosmer is unable to do any stealth content without that stealthy passive? Really?

Let me ask you a better question - why do you care about this change so much that you think it's appropriate to tell people how they should feel about this change?

D0PAMINE · February 2019

Truthsnark wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

Truthsnark wrote: »

You can get stealth radius from other sources as well. It's useless, you're never going to need that much stealth radius. Lore Wise it makes sense, but it's not as useful as youre making it out to be. I don't understand the stealth detection replacement. Class passives and skill line passives absolutely must be mentioned, they are why Bosmers current stealthy is redundant.

D0PAMINE, this is a garbage statement and you know it. I, like many people, rolled a Bosmer for the stealth bonus. I use it every day in PVE exclusively. I play a stealth race and a stealth class because that is the playstyle I like. Maybe YOU don't need it, but I DO. And to take away a key defining racial trait after five years that harmed no one is ludicrous.

So you're Bosmer is unable to do any stealth content without that stealthy passive? Really?

Let me ask you a better question - why do you care about this change so much that you think it's appropriate to tell people how they should feel about this change?

I didn't tell anyone how to feel about anything. I stayed on topic and posted MY current feeling towards it. I've had a Bosmer for years. I have one of each race and 15 toons total. I mingle in various threads in this forum. Simply, we can agree to disagree, but I will always post my opinion on a subject I feel is worth taking the time to do so.

rabidmyers · February 2019

im quitting

zaria · February 2019

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

If you're on PS4 NA, i'll gladly take any weight (read: motifs, mats, gold) from your sore shoulders before you unninstall the game (PSN Rafaelcsmaia).

If youre not, please support the hard working khajiit (now with magicka version too).

You stole my catgirl render
Dirty bosmer

Here is an animated version of her

Please give this one Insightful and Awesome.

Vapirko · February 2019

@Steelshiv

Ingame name @Narkanin. Send it.

Steelshiv · February 2019

Vapirko wrote: »

@Steelshiv

Ingame name @Narkanin. Send it.

Gotta wait a month lol. If the changes are still garbage I'll consider it XD

geonsocal · February 2019

ask - and, you shall not receive...

Fur_like_snow · February 2019

My Orcs got better. DC races got better overall. What’s the problem again?

mocap · February 2019

what tsunamu? Didn't see even a single thread.

max_only · February 2019

mocap wrote: »

what tsunamu? Didn't see even a single thread.

Threads will be created on February 25 when the people who aren’t forum residents log on to see the changes

zaria · February 2019

max_only wrote: »

mocap wrote: »

what tsunamu? Didn't see even a single thread.

Threads will be created on February 25 when the people who aren’t forum residents log on to see the changes

Most are positioning.
People complaining about weak racials or nerfs during PTS.

And yes reverse the Khajiit change

Bosco916 · February 2019

Quitting Threads are not allowed per the forum rules. Didn't everyone read those?

rafaelcsmaia · February 2019

zaria wrote: »

rafaelcsmaia wrote: »

If you're on PS4 NA, i'll gladly take any weight (read: motifs, mats, gold) from your sore shoulders before you unninstall the game (PSN Rafaelcsmaia).

If youre not, please support the hard working khajiit (now with magicka version too).

You stole my catgirl render
Dirty bosmer

Here is an animated version of her

Please give this one Insightful and Awesome.

Once online, there is no stealing, copypasta it's one of the pillars of the internet lmao

ezio45 · February 2019

If o didn't quit when they nerfed shields in not quitting over this

Tho this isn't helping things zos... Your on a very short leash.....

Already not subbed and refusing to spend money on the game

DarkerDreams · February 2019

Not going to quit over it but instead I just won't spend anymore money on the game. Since they ignored all the feedback and complaints about what they did to bosmers, I'll just ignore all their cash grabs in return. I think people who keep playing but don't spend any more money hurts them more since it saps resources and they get nothing out of it.

Rex-Umbra · February 2019

Every one i talk to in game and facebook like the race changes only grumbles i heard were imperial sucking.

ZOS_RikardD · February 2019

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