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What is a direct healing ability?

Tasear
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I have never heard this term before and would hope someone can enlighten more in regards to curse eater change.

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  • Jaimeh
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    It's an instant heal without a HOT component, they also mention it in the developer's comments for curse eater, with this change it won't be able to be proc from mutagen, ritual, etc.

    Edit to add: not sure if instant AOE heals apply, for eg. enchanted growth is instant but covers conal area, so don't know if that's considered direct, because maybe the term applies only to single target.
    Edited by Jaimeh on February 5, 2019 3:36AM
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  • skinnycheeks
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    a single upfront heal, not a heal over time. same way that a direct damage attack is a single tick of damage, and not damage over time.
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  • Morgul667
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    Matriarch or breath of life
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  • Vapirko
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    Morgul667 wrote: »
    Matriarch or breath of life

    Could be a boon for sorc healers? Magplars probably won’t run it because why would you when you have extended ritual.
  • Tasear
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    Morgul667 wrote: »
    Matriarch or breath of life

    Could be a boon for sorc healers? Magplars probably won’t run it because why would you when you have extended ritual.

    Combat prayer... it's a healers.
  • TheNightflame
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    imagine if they gave the curse eater bonus to blessing of protection
  • joaaocaampos
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    Jaimeh wrote: »
    It's an instant heal without a HOT component, they also mention it in the developer's comments for curse eater, with this change it won't be able to be proc from mutagen, ritual, etc.

    Edit to add: not sure if instant AOE heals apply, for eg. enchanted growth is instant but covers conal area, so don't know if that's considered direct, because maybe the term applies only to single target.

    No matter if it is Single Target or AoE.

    Direct Damage/Healing ≠ Single Target.
    DOT/HOT ≠ AoE.

    Look at Spear Shards. Bold is Direct Damage (AoE), and Italic Underline is DoT (AoE).

    "Send your spear into the heavens to bring down a shower of divine wrath, dealing 454 Magic Damage to enemies in the target area and an addtional 133 Magic Damage every 1 second for 8 seconds."
  • IronWooshu
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    Would my Wardens Lotus Flower count?
  • sneakymitchell
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    I’m surprised that for a healer not knowing direct healing! Well guess it’s new since every set profs off any heal.
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  • Seraphayel
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    IronWooshu wrote: »
    Would my Wardens Lotus Flower count?

    Based on logic yes, because it's a direct heal you get when you fire your LA/HA.

    Another thing is Vines where I'm not sure.
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  • robpr
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    I'm gonna LoL hard if it procs off Burning Embers or Entropy.
  • Seraphayel
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    robpr wrote: »
    I'm gonna LoL hard if it procs off Burning Embers or Entropy.

    Imho Entropy is a HoT. Burning Embers though...
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  • Tasear
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    I’m surprised that for a healer not knowing direct healing! Well guess it’s new since every set profs off any heal.

    I had an idea of it but yeah it's not something you really think about.
  • Ladislao
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    IronWooshu wrote: »
    Would my Wardens Lotus Flower count?

    I don't think so since it is not really a healing ability but buff with trigger effect (like Surge). But it must be tested.
    Everything is viable
  • Kulvar
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    Direct healing:
    Heal X

    Heal over time:
    Heal X over Y seconds
    Heal X every Y seconds for Z seconds
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  • OneKhajiitCrimeWave
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    Cauterize
    Embers
    Dragon Blood
    Obsidian Shard

    Matriarch
    Power Surge Heal (potentially)

    BoL
    Hasty Prayer

    Fungal Growth
    Lotus
    Corrupting Pollen/other Morph

    Swallow Soul/Funnel Health
    Offering
    1st tick of refreshing

    Springs (1st Tick)
    Combat Prayer

    1st tick of Symbiosis (i believe is direct)

    Will test and make a full list as we go.
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  • BlackMadara
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    Cauterize
    Embers
    Dragon Blood
    Obsidian Shard

    Matriarch
    Power Surge Heal (potentially)

    BoL
    Hasty Prayer

    Fungal Growth
    Lotus
    Corrupting Pollen/other Morph

    Swallow Soul/Funnel Health
    Offering
    1st tick of refreshing

    Springs (1st Tick)
    Combat Prayer

    1st tick of Symbiosis (i believe is direct)

    Will test and make a full list as we go.

    This conjecture or confirmed?
  • clocksstoppe
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    The first healing tick of any healing ability is a direct heal. Abilities that have only one instant tick (instant cast) are also direct heals.
    Edited by clocksstoppe on February 5, 2019 6:21PM
  • OneKhajiitCrimeWave
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    Cauterize
    Embers
    Dragon Blood
    Obsidian Shard

    Matriarch
    Power Surge Heal (potentially)

    BoL
    Hasty Prayer

    Fungal Growth
    Lotus
    Corrupting Pollen/other Morph

    Swallow Soul/Funnel Health
    Offering
    1st tick of refreshing

    Springs (1st Tick)
    Combat Prayer

    1st tick of Symbiosis (i believe is direct)

    Will test and make a full list as we go.

    This conjecture or confirmed?

    Some confirmed as they are specifically single target direct heals, such as Breath of Life/Honor the Dead and Obsidian Shard. some are conjecture but once PTS is up i'll be testing to confirm specifics which apply with it and will make a full list.

    I did forget to add Polar Winds/Arctic Blast to the Warden list which has an immediate direct heal.

    I do also want to test whether heals from sets will proc it such as Battalion Defender/Cyrodiil's Crest will proc it.
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  • TwIsTeDReDQuEeN
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    Any updates to this?! Thx!!
  • Tasear
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    Any updates to this?! Thx!!

    Works with healing springs
  • xAk_MoRRoWiNdx
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    I think some of Wardens abilities like Tendrils or the gap close vines
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    • Iskiab
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      A lot of aoes and hots have been setup that the first tick is direct damage/healing. I assume to prevent an auto crit effecting every tick.

      I’m surprised swallow soul is a direct heal, are you sure? If it crits all ticks will crit so maybe it’s coded differently.
      Edited by Iskiab on April 2, 2019 1:26PM
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    • Xvorg
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      Cauterize
      Embers
      Dragon Blood
      Obsidian Shard

      Matriarch
      Power Surge Heal (potentially)

      BoL
      Hasty Prayer

      Fungal Growth
      Lotus
      Corrupting Pollen/other Morph

      Swallow Soul/Funnel Health
      Offering
      1st tick of refreshing

      Springs (1st Tick)
      Combat Prayer

      1st tick of Symbiosis (i believe is direct)

      Will test and make a full list as we go.

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    • Xvorg
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      Iskiab wrote: »
      A lot of aoes and hots have been setup that the first tick is direct damage/healing. I assume to prevent an auto crit effecting every tick.

      I’m surprised swallow soul is a direct heal, are you sure? If it crits all ticks will crit so maybe it’s coded differently.

      It is a Hot... it procs Transmutation set
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      On the wrong day of the wrong week
      Used the wrong method with the wrong technique
    • TimeDazzler
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      Does anyone know if warden living trellis (vines) counts? Any updates?
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    • Anony_Mouse
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      Anyone know of the Curse Eater sets procs off any Necro skills?
    • Iskiab
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      Xvorg wrote: »
      Iskiab wrote: »
      A lot of aoes and hots have been setup that the first tick is direct damage/healing. I assume to prevent an auto crit effecting every tick.

      I’m surprised swallow soul is a direct heal, are you sure? If it crits all ticks will crit so maybe it’s coded differently.

      It is a Hot... it procs Transmutation set

      You can’t assume anything in this game. Most of the healing abilities are not consistent, for example refreshing path won’t proc transmutation and ALL DK heals aren’t coded as heals and don’t get a cost reduction from the Asylum resto.
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