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What do you think of the new racial changes after today?

  • hakan
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    Dark Elves Master Race baby 😎

    i think orcs become way better but that bosmer passive is weird.

    altmer and bosmer got the short stick.
  • ThePainGuy
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    Can someone clarify for me, so dunmer second passive provides just fire resistance and immunity to burning? So all other races that have these specific immunitites and resistances get stats along with the immunities , but dunmer doesn't really have anything else? And altmer has a passive that regens their lower stat when using class abilities.

    At this point i feel the altmer new passive should just be given to dunmer as a throw away passive because it doesn't fit with altmer at all. Just give altmer max health that was removed from dunmer. The increased health is better than what they have now in this week PTS update.

    And argonian got some of their resources back from the potion passive? I thought that was a main culprit in them overperforming. I agree with giving them increase with healing done to define them as healers.

    I guess we will see what these changes bring in PTS.
  • themaddaedra
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    Just wanna congratulate the community on what this incredible QQ journey led to and laugh playing my bis main.
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  • LiquidPony
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    One step forward, two steps back.

    The old passives were mostly better. Think the changes to Altmer and Orc are both pretty boneheaded.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    I'm happy for my Bretons. I'm sad for my Altmers. I'm terribly sad for my Bosmer thief. My Dunmers will likely muddle through.

    That covers 11 out of my 15 characters, including all the ones that have been important to date.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Some changes makes sense, like imperial.
    Bosmer and altmer changes are a bad joke.
    Breton and khajiit buff is unnecessary.
    Dunmer almost remained the same, cause those 600 HP were useful if you use recovery food like camorane or witchbrew

    Orc is now an OP, basically most powerful race. Think about it:
    2000 stamina
    1000 health
    258 weapon damage
    And speed bonus for PVP
  • LongMaySheReign
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    I really don't see the necessity for nerfing altmers since the magicka races were quite balanced on the last patch(Altmer was even underperforming a little compared to breton and khajiit already but at least had ok sustain) So why make an "OK" magicka race useless trash compared to the others? It is nice that they changed the fact that dunmer sucked before but really can't see the reason behind altmer changes.
  • Sandman929
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    They managed to make Imperial worse. I wouldn't have though that could happen. I still don't get how they can have such a recognizable, world famous mage/necromancer Imperial with shoddy tanking racial passives.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    What's point of dunmer after this buff to orc???

    Stamina wise orc have absolutely the same + 1000 HP + speed, dunmers extra magicka is useless for stamina builds, at least in PVE.
  • zyk
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    I think I am attached to my characters as they are -- such as my Dunmer Magicka Nightblade and DK. I want them to remain approximately what they are good at today compared to characters made with different races.

    They weren't OP. There was no Dunmer outrage or hate in the forums. They are going to be casualties of more whimsical changes by ZOS -- changes not driven by necessity, but rather the whims of the devs to the detriment of some players.

    I was comfortable that Altmer were better at some things because I accepted those compromises years ago. Now it's all up in the air.

    I think ZOS might regret these changes because it will be easier for many players to quit ESO after ZOS disrupts their comfort level and bonds with their characters.
    Edited by zyk on February 4, 2019 10:09PM
  • HatchetHaro
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    Honestly, the 4.3.2 racial changes look so shite. Seriously. There's a lot I can talk about here, but I'll leave it for a fully in-depth post about it.

    EDIT: Here's my in-depth post about it.
    Edited by HatchetHaro on February 5, 2019 4:11AM
    Best Argonian NA and I will fight anyone for it

    20 Argonians

    6x IR, 7x GH, 7x TTT, 5x GS, 6x DB, 1x PB, 4x SBS, 1x MM, 1x US, 2x CB, 1x Unchained
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    I kinda like Argonian changes. I guess they realized that they are over-nerfing stuff.
    Sure it is still a nerf (compared to what we have on live server), but it is not as big as the initial changes. In short - Argonian will stay good choice for tank and healer, while other races will also be good choices (that is I guess the goal, to have options).

    On the other hand I kinda don't understand High Elf changes at all...
    "Spell Recharge: The return for this passive will now restore your lowest maximum resource, rather than your highest. We also increased the value to 645 from 525."

    Um... how is that gonna work ??
  • MLGProPlayer
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    Absolutely brutal. ZOS is only doing this to sell race change tokens and Adventurer Packs. I'm 100% sure of that now.

    They took the top-2 magicka DPS races on live, knowing that 95% of players use them, and nerfed them so they are no longer endgame viable as magicka DPS. Every single endgame magicka DD will be switching to Breton or Khajiit now.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on February 4, 2019 10:30PM
  • Neyane
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    This is horrible. What the hell are they thinking? Why would an altmer want stam regen?
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  • Xsorus
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    What's point of dunmer after this buff to orc???

    Stamina wise orc have absolutely the same + 1000 HP + speed, dunmers extra magicka is useless for stamina builds, at least in PVE.

    Dunmer is better for Magicka DK builds
  • SirLeeMinion
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    I'm looking forward to a new stolen item: Pocket rules to kick the Bosmer

    Reading through these changes is kind of like seeing yet another statuette as the ESO+ free bonus, and reading that the new DLC dungeons are even harder than previous DLC dungeons. In the end, I just shake my head and wander off to spend my time and money elsewhere.

  • VeiledCriticism
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    Bad choices were made when it comes to the Altmer. If the Altmer is supposed to be the Magicka equivalent of the Orc in the magicka side, they still can use a whole lot of rework. Specially to that joke as passive Spell charge.

    Dunmers could use some love as well.
    Both elves are not as competitive as Khajits and Bretons anymore.

    Glad to see that Argonian will still prevail as the best Tanking choice. Basically a complete 360. Almost same exact place as it is in live.

    First balance changes were MUCH better than these ones.
  • macsmooth
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    Imperials what? Hey what erm what hey

    333 every 5 seconds or effectively 66 regen a second what is this a joke

    I get it’s on all 3 stats but this doesn’t really make it an option for magic or stamina as it really isn’t anything compared to other races

    It’s still a tank race with bad resource return even if I make it sit in black rose set
  • Rake
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    Redguards got nice buff for PvP
    Khajiit almot have it good, 85 is still not 100 regen as many hope.
    Dunmer have more stamina than Nords for some reason.
    Bretons have nice boost for survivability.
    Imperials are not worst race for DD anymore, since they got some sustain.
  • validifyedneb18_ESO
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    Azyle1 wrote: »
    Why are we buffing dunmer more? They were arguably one of the better races before.

    People complain because Dunmer is no longer BIS. Call ZOS cash-grabbers for forcing top mag dd players to racechange to Altmer.
    Dunmer gets a buff. People have a salt party on the forums.

    Im not saying the same people did both, although I wouldn't be surprised if some did, but some members of this community need to get a bloody grip.
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  • Iskiab
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    Yea, changes look like a total capitulation to forum whining from people who chose the overpowered races.
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    Rake wrote: »
    Redguards got nice buff for PvP
    Khajiit almot have it good, 85 is still not 100 regen as many hope.
    Dunmer have more stamina than Nords for some reason.
    Bretons have nice boost for survivability.
    Imperials are not worst race for DD anymore, since they got some sustain.

    There is only one race for stamina dps if those patches goes live.
  • ruikkarikun
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    Altmers must be reverted, otherwise this race will be so weak and useless. Thx for nerfs, gg wp. Again, more hate to magicka sorcerer, more.
  • Dalsinthus
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    Clunky and limited passives for both altmer and bosmer. WTF ZOS?
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    What's point of dunmer after this buff to orc???

    Stamina wise orc have absolutely the same + 1000 HP + speed, dunmers extra magicka is useless for stamina builds, at least in PVE.

    Dunmer is better for Magicka DK builds

    Better then what? Better then orc? Magicka dunmer now is exactly the same as altmer (125 magicka less, ok, it's nothing), one big step behind breton and khajiit.
  • Loralai_907
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    I am trying really hard to not dive into thinking the world is on fire here. But I am pretty concerned for a number of my characters. And I am not going to buy race change/name change packs to sort this out. I didn't break this, I'm not paying to fix it. Out of your dam mind if you think we need to pay you to sort out your mess. (And this comes from someone who has been subbed since early release on one account, has a second account with a sub, buys crowns, buys the game for other people, buys chapters - I think I have shown that I have no problem giving you money, but this is absolute nonsense)

    What WILL happen, is more of my characters may get shelved. I will work on making whatever changes I need to for the absolutely most important characters for me, with whatever I'm given to work with. The rest will stay as they are, and will not be used outside of writs and events. If that impacts one of my favorites, it may be more drastic, as I built them all a certain way for a reason, they have a story as is. Making me change them at my expense or shelf them just feels super bad.
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  • TPishek
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    Zos pls where is my magicka bosmer
  • jdrokz7
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    I quite like the imperial red diamond changes but that's mainly due to me running an imperial as a stam DPS
  • Mintaka5
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    Same as a I felt about the nerfs to magicka shields, and every other nerf to magicka in general. They just want this game to be a bunch of 12 yo's on Adderall running around with nothing but spin-to-win stam builds.
  • Starlock
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    On the whole? Several fixes for things that were not broken and are now broken. xD
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