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Is PVE nightblade tank dead?
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zvavi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Aliveyou can do vet dlc ones too, my guildy is a 300 cp relatively new player, his main (nb) also functions as a tank, we went in vSCP and with wiping only few times because of his inexperience (maybe 3) we finished the dungeon well enough
edit: and to whomever says that everyone else were meta and carried him, while one of us was stamblade, another was a stamsorc, and i was a dk healer. so ye, it is the player not the class. and the highest cp was maybe 700, in a dungeon that is friendlier to mag characters #first boss interrupt)
edit: AAAAA cant wait for curse-eater change my healer will be so happy with it~~~ run it with jorvuld's and everyone are happy~~~Edited by zvavi on January 31, 2019 6:13AM2 -
EvilAutoTech✭✭✭✭✭
✭AliveThey're not dead, they just aren't as special as they used to be. You can tank just fine with a nightblade. It's just easier if you don't use a lot of nightblade skills.0 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭AliveAlive, if you want to play teleport-tank, other then that there is no point. Of course you may use NB tank for leveling and fast queuing it's viable for any content though sometimes you need to use bow bar for bombard for rooting, cause a lot of new mechanics require rooting mobs (immunity to chains or/and taunt).0 -
John_Falstaff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@MartiniDaniels , I think Time Stop from Psijic line does a decent job for tanks without in-class source of AoE root. Granted, it does require Summerset though.2 -
vesselwiththepestle✭✭✭✭✭
✭AliveFrom the nb tanks I have seen they can tank anything in this game.
Could someone explain me, what exactly a sap tank is? I read this term often in relation to nb tanks.Edited by vesselwiththepestle on January 31, 2019 11:22AM1000+ CP
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ankeor✭✭✭✭✭Nightblade can tank anything, it is not the problem. Problem is NBtank provides nothing better to its group compared to meta tank classes.Edited by ankeor on January 31, 2019 11:07AM4 -
ccfeeling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DeadGood healer, 40k + dps, shard, orb
Yeah, all class tanks are about the same, hold the block, taunt the bosses.
This is ZOS logic
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paulsimonps✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DeadIt can technically do Dungeons but compared to the other 4 classes it might as well be dead.2 -
Zodiac_✭✭✭AliveYou can do all vet dungeons if you gear up properly with the exception of a few of the tough dlc ones. You can tank those too but depends on your experience. Not sure about trials Have done only the 2 out of the 3 craglorn ones and wasnt an easy task
The main problem is the lack of group utility where you have to depend on non class skills
The funny thing is that despite the above i consider nb tanks to be bis for pugs cause u can literally do enough of everything and supplement your groupEdited by Zodiac_ on January 31, 2019 11:52AM0 -
TheGreatBlackBear✭✭✭✭✭
✭AliveThe class is very much alive. Nightblades still have incredible healing output which makes them perfectly suited to replace healers if you're running with 3 DDS on a skin run for example. Healthy offering is basically a free breath of life that you can spam over and over and over in oh sh!! moments. The ultimate generation upon drinking a potion is really nice too. I currently have triple infused jewellery with potion cool down just for that. Combined with the upcoming Nord ultigen passive, a set like dragon and bloodspawn and you'll be putting out horns at a ridiculous rate. Warhorn> any other ability.
All the class needs is a group root like talons. I'm currently using time stop for that but it's not perfect. All in all people who say Nightblade tanks are dead are either overly emotional or don't know what they're talking about. I'm currently going through vhof with it and I'm doing just fine.Edited by TheGreatBlackBear on January 31, 2019 12:21PM0 -
Raammzzaa✭✭✭✭✭AliveIf you want to play a PvE night blade tank, because you like playing it, then definitely do it. They are very much viable. Best in slot - not at all. Alive - definitely.0 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DeadTheGreatBlackBear wrote: »The class is very much alive. Nightblades still have incredible healing output which makes them perfectly suited to replace healers if you're running with 3 DDS on a skin run for example. Healthy offering is basically a free breath of life that you can spam over and over and over in oh sh!! moments. The ultimate generation upon drinking a potion is really nice too. I currently have triple infused jewellery with potion cool down just for that. Combined with the upcoming Nord ultigen passive, a set like dragon and bloodspawn and you'll be putting out horns at a ridiculous rate. Warhorn> any other ability.
All the class needs is a group root like talons. I'm currently using time stop for that but it's not perfect. All in all people who say Nightblade tanks are dead are either overly emotional or don't know what they're talking about. I'm currently going through vhof with it and I'm doing just fine.
Tanking in ESO is about staying alive, which all classes can do fine. It is about supporting the group, which is where NBs lack. Templar and Warden tanks outheal NB tanks and has additional support skills. Wardens have higher ultimate generation with Major Heroism. NB tank sustain is the worst of all tanks. DK tank, then again, is in a different world.
As someone, who tanked vMoL, vAS and vCR as a primary tank, I still believe NB tanks are virtually dead, as all other class tanks bring more to the table. NB tank died with Saptanking nerfs back in 2016 and 2017.
One thing, that NBs actually have going in their favor, is pseudo-tanking. You can do good DPS(30K) with the proper build with decent survivability, using a NB tank, which is great for PuGs.1 -
Kuramas9tails✭✭✭✭✭
✭DeadIt's "dead" to me because I can't tank that way anymore.
It's "alive" for others who can do it.Your friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
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Dottzgaming✭✭✭✭✭AliveAlive.
Have tanked Vet DLC dungeons with no issues, as well as some Vet Trials (guild is currently progressing through all the vet trials with myself as the Main Tank on my nightblade).
If you play it like a DK, dont expect to be successful. It plays differently, and once you take advantage of what a NB actually does bring to the table, youll start to see success.Edited by Dottzgaming on January 31, 2019 2:22PM1 -
VaxtinTheWolf✭✭✭✭✭AliveI do not have any Dungeon DLC, and I have personally never tried a Trial. I have cleared any non DLC Veteran Dungeon, and vWTG(HM) when I was farming for Spell Power Cure. I keep trying to figure out what to do with my NB tank after every patch that seems to only reduce it's effectiveness. Right now it's a Tank/Off-Healing setup.|| AD - Rah'Jiin Lv50 Khajiit Nightblade (Damage) || EP - Generic Argonian Lv50 Argonian Nightblade (Tank) || DC - Zinkotsu Lv50 Breton Nightblade (Healer) ||
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Narvuntien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I am playing around with it on the PTS because the new monster set seems good for sap tanking... although I don't know enough about the play style to do it properly and wholly hell bar space is so limited there is just so many abilities I want but so few I can use.0 -
Khrogo✭✭✭With the addition of the healing Cloak, along with the changes to shields and Leash, they are in a better place than they were after Morrowind. Back then, my friends convinced me that vDSA with no healer was a good idea. We did it but I still have nightmares. In fact, I stopped playing the game for months after the run. Shudder.0
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Left4Daud✭✭✭✭✭
✭My NB tank has been taking the Murkmire patch off. It’s quite sad. Maybe Elsweyr class balance will bring her back to the fight, or Necrotanks will be everything NB tanks could have been and more.0 -
Mettaricana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭vesselwiththepestle wrote: »From the nb tanks I have seen they can tank anything in this game.
Could someone explain me, what exactly a sap tank is? I read this term often in relation to nb tanks.
They used that aoe health drain skills and just eat enemy hp to stay alive0
