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FEBRUARY TWITCH DROPS SUMMARY

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TWITCH DROPS for FEBRUARY

By starting date:

Twitch Drops are currently only available for PC/Mac, and you have to link your ZOS account to twitch.

ESO Live & Official Bethesda Streams:
Tune into www.twitch.tv/bethesda for at least 10 minutes for a GUARANTEED Ouroboros Crown Crate

All Other Streamers:
Tune into their channel streaming ESO for at least 10 minutes for a CHANCE to receive a Twitch Drop.

SCHEDULE:

* February 1, 6:00-7:00pm EST
ESO Live:
Drops (Ouroboros Crates) will start to go out at the conclusion of the stream

* February 8 at 10:00am EST until February 10 at 11:00pm EST
All ESO Streamers: Morrowind Celebration Event:
Drops will go out each day at 10:00am EST starting on February 9

* February 8, 4:00-8:00pm EST
Kevduit & GameChanger Charity Stream:
Tune in to see Kevduit on the Twitch front page while he raises money along with GameChanger Charity! Along with Drops, there will be special giveaways as well.
Drops will go out beginning on February 8 at 8:00pm EST

* February 10, time TBD
Rubensky’s Streaming Event:
Join Rubensky and select ESO Stream Team members as they introduce their communities to each other while streaming ESO. Participating streamers include: KyleDempsterStudios, Retired8404, Rubensky, Tea_the_Khajiit,Tianlein
Drops will go out at the conclusion of the event

* February 15, 6:00-7:00pm EST
ESO Live:
Drops (Ouroboros crates) will start to go out at the conclusion of the stream

* February 17 at 5:00pm EST until February 18 at 10:00am EST
ESO After Charity:
Check out Bertferkins and JDUl3 as they stream to raise money for the American Pit Bull Foundation!
Drops will go out beginning on February 18 at 10:00am EST

* February 26, 1:00-3:00pm EST
Bethesda MainStream on www.twitch.tv/bethesda_de
Drops will start to go out at the conclusion of the stream

* February 25 at 10:00am EST until February 26 at 10:00am EST
ESO Stream Team:
Drops will go out beginning on February 26 at 10:00am EST

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Edited by marius_buys on January 30, 2019 10:37AM
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  • ZonasArch
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    So many gems *.*
  • fgoron2000
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    So many gems *.*

    the last half dozen crates I got from twitch drops have been almost all pots, and a couple soul gems & mimic stones, which for me were the best part of the drops...everything else went gems...

  • Paazhahdrimaak
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    Only available for PC? Lame
  • ZonasArch
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    fgoron2000 wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    So many gems *.*

    the last half dozen crates I got from twitch drops have been almost all pots, and a couple soul gems & mimic stones, which for me were the best part of the drops...everything else went gems...

    I used to like the pots more but now they are being generous with lots on daily rewards, so I'm cool on those. All turns to get to become mounts or pretty stuffs or even mount training for babies. Can't complain.
  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    Oh yay, yet another thing for pc players. And consoles will get involved in one of these when?
  • IwakuraLain42
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    Oh yay, yet another thing for pc players. And consoles will get involved in one of these when?

    When hell freezes over ?
  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    Oh yay, yet another thing for pc players. And consoles will get involved in one of these when?

    When hell freezes over ?
    Don’t see why ZoS feels the need to continuously exclude 2/3 of its player base. Not sure about PS4 or other Xbox users, but I can see a twitch app in the store.

    Oh, and btw ZoS, IM STILL WAITING ON THE “DOG AND CRATES FROM OCTOBER THAT I NEVER GOT
  • ZonasArch
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    Oh yay, yet another thing for pc players. And consoles will get involved in one of these when?

    You'd rather have us PC players not have itt? Blame twitch and Microsoft and Sony (probably mostly Sony) for not getting their siht straight.
  • marius_buys
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    Agreed!

    But seriously all I actually wanted to achieve with this post is a linear timeline of streams. :)
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  • eso_lags
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Oh yay, yet another thing for pc players. And consoles will get involved in one of these when?

    You'd rather have us PC players not have itt? Blame twitch and Microsoft and Sony (probably mostly Sony) for not getting their siht straight.

    Ya I would. You cant blame everything on sony and Microsoft, plus zos should have known how it would be having a game on multiple platforms..

    Its pretty disgusting how zos treats the console community. Pc players get add ons and zos wont even give us the most basic QOL updates, such as lorebooks and skyshards build into the map, to try to level the playing field. PC players get every update earlier than console and zos wont try to time it right so we both can get it at the same time.

    PC players get twitch drops and zos wont try to do something for us so we can also get something. PC players have much better game performance in every aspect of the game and zos doesnt seem to acknowledge the difference or try to make it better. And theres still more. I wonder if any zos employees even come on console anymore. I wonder why they even bothered to put this game out on console. And i wonder why they wont allow console to PC transfers if they know how bad things are on console..

    So ya I would rather they didnt have them at all for anyone but dont worry they wont do that.
  • Cavedog
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    Only available for PC? Lame

    The game was designed for PC. So, much of the content surrounding the game is designed around PC users.
  • Seebs
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Oh yay, yet another thing for pc players. And consoles will get involved in one of these when?

    You'd rather have us PC players not have itt? Blame twitch and Microsoft and Sony (probably mostly Sony) for not getting their siht straight.

    People always try to blame Microsoft/Sony. Rainbow six siege and Warframe both have twitch drops all the time and their console communities get the drops no problem.
  • ZonasArch
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    eso_lags wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Oh yay, yet another thing for pc players. And consoles will get involved in one of these when?

    You'd rather have us PC players not have itt? Blame twitch and Microsoft and Sony (probably mostly Sony) for not getting their siht straight.

    Ya I would. You cant blame everything on sony and Microsoft, plus zos should have known how it would be having a game on multiple platforms..

    Its pretty disgusting how zos treats the console community. Pc players get add ons and zos wont even give us the most basic QOL updates, such as lorebooks and skyshards build into the map, to try to level the playing field. PC players get every update earlier than console and zos wont try to time it right so we both can get it at the same time.

    PC players get twitch drops and zos wont try to do something for us so we can also get something. PC players have much better game performance in every aspect of the game and zos doesnt seem to acknowledge the difference or try to make it better. And theres still more. I wonder if any zos employees even come on console anymore. I wonder why they even bothered to put this game out on console. And i wonder why they wont allow console to PC transfers if they know how bad things are on console..

    So ya I would rather they didnt have them at all for anyone but dont worry they wont do that.

    I feel your pain, but you do understand that there are things, by the very open nature of pc things, easier done for pcs compared to consoles, right? You're playing on a completely locked down system by your own choice. It will always be worse for you... You're depending on two online services to run. Just ask steam players... They hate this thing too.

    As for QoL improvement, you're getting them, aren't you? They are always coming. I play on a very low spec PC, and having these updates is just as important for me so I can get rid of my add-ons. I agree with shards and lorebooks... Those could be given to console map at least. Can't be that hard. And a mini map.

    As for testing everything ahead, pts is literally a second install of the game. ESO gets 90GB of my HDD. Pts takes another 90GB. There's no shared file. This is a huge draw back that console people, by the locked down nature of the systems, won't be too eager to accept, since expanding storage, trivial as it may be, is not something most people are comfortable doing. Setting up pts for a handful of people to try may simply not be worth the cost. It's an entire new server, maintenance, copies and wipes... Not too simple. Gotta be worth it for feedback... And that requires lots of people having easy access to it, which just does not happen for consoles.

    As for having twitch and knowing "it would be a multiple platform", the twitch crate thing came yeaaars after. After thoughts, wasn't designed from the beginning. The whole crate system didn't exist with the game when it came out. Not even with one tamriel. Crates are really recent. Drops, even more so. Twitch also came to consoles a lot later. Twitch is very much a PC thing. Sadly for you, you chose the platform that's systematically in the past. Consoles are not on the edge anymore, haven't been for a decade now, even longer. You can't expect things to move as fast for consoles considering "generation cycles" are even a concept that exists, let alone when you think this cycle is over half a decade long. Things move slow for consoles, and it'll get worse.

    And this is not, by any means, a pcmr thing. I hate that with a passion, but the truth of the matter is that gaming on PC is better. Simple. Whether because Sony people are buttheads, Microsoft people don't understand what gamers want or Nintendo lives in a bubble, the real good place to game is on PC, and you're suffering for having made a poor choice when you first bought the game. I'm truly sorry for it, btw, but it was, ultimately, your own choice. None of the problems I cited are new. They were here in 2014. They were here in 20-whatever.

    As a final note, when the game was released on console, they did allow for account port, so it is doable, and they could very well allow for a port back, even if they charged for it.
  • ZonasArch
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    Agreed!

    But seriously all I actually wanted to achieve with this post is a linear timeline of streams. :)

    That you did, and I'm so happy you did it. Thank you. If you need public appreciation to do this next month, tag me and I'll come *clap*. :)

    Really awesome :))))
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    Console summary: avoid Twitch.
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  • marius_buys
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    We actually support developing twitch streamers in my guild, most recently these two :)

    Twitch:

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  • eso_lags
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    ZonasArch wrote: »
    eso_lags wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Oh yay, yet another thing for pc players. And consoles will get involved in one of these when?

    You'd rather have us PC players not have itt? Blame twitch and Microsoft and Sony (probably mostly Sony) for not getting their siht straight.

    Ya I would. You cant blame everything on sony and Microsoft, plus zos should have known how it would be having a game on multiple platforms..

    Its pretty disgusting how zos treats the console community. Pc players get add ons and zos wont even give us the most basic QOL updates, such as lorebooks and skyshards build into the map, to try to level the playing field. PC players get every update earlier than console and zos wont try to time it right so we both can get it at the same time.

    PC players get twitch drops and zos wont try to do something for us so we can also get something. PC players have much better game performance in every aspect of the game and zos doesnt seem to acknowledge the difference or try to make it better. And theres still more. I wonder if any zos employees even come on console anymore. I wonder why they even bothered to put this game out on console. And i wonder why they wont allow console to PC transfers if they know how bad things are on console..

    So ya I would rather they didnt have them at all for anyone but dont worry they wont do that.

    I feel your pain, but you do understand that there are things, by the very open nature of pc things, easier done for pcs compared to consoles, right? You're playing on a completely locked down system by your own choice. It will always be worse for you... You're depending on two online services to run. Just ask steam players... They hate this thing too.

    As for QoL improvement, you're getting them, aren't you? They are always coming. I play on a very low spec PC, and having these updates is just as important for me so I can get rid of my add-ons. I agree with shards and lorebooks... Those could be given to console map at least. Can't be that hard. And a mini map.

    As for testing everything ahead, pts is literally a second install of the game. ESO gets 90GB of my HDD. Pts takes another 90GB. There's no shared file. This is a huge draw back that console people, by the locked down nature of the systems, won't be too eager to accept, since expanding storage, trivial as it may be, is not something most people are comfortable doing. Setting up pts for a handful of people to try may simply not be worth the cost. It's an entire new server, maintenance, copies and wipes... Not too simple. Gotta be worth it for feedback... And that requires lots of people having easy access to it, which just does not happen for consoles.

    As for having twitch and knowing "it would be a multiple platform", the twitch crate thing came yeaaars after. After thoughts, wasn't designed from the beginning. The whole crate system didn't exist with the game when it came out. Not even with one tamriel. Crates are really recent. Drops, even more so. Twitch also came to consoles a lot later. Twitch is very much a PC thing. Sadly for you, you chose the platform that's systematically in the past. Consoles are not on the edge anymore, haven't been for a decade now, even longer. You can't expect things to move as fast for consoles considering "generation cycles" are even a concept that exists, let alone when you think this cycle is over half a decade long. Things move slow for consoles, and it'll get worse.

    And this is not, by any means, a pcmr thing. I hate that with a passion, but the truth of the matter is that gaming on PC is better. Simple. Whether because Sony people are buttheads, Microsoft people don't understand what gamers want or Nintendo lives in a bubble, the real good place to game is on PC, and you're suffering for having made a poor choice when you first bought the game. I'm truly sorry for it, btw, but it was, ultimately, your own choice. None of the problems I cited are new. They were here in 2014. They were here in 20-whatever.

    As a final note, when the game was released on console, they did allow for account port, so it is doable, and they could very well allow for a port back, even if they charged for it.

    You seem like you mean well but you are wrong about a lot of things here.

    I understand fully that things are easier to do for zos on PC.. I never said anything about getting the PTS. I own the game on PC as well. I bought it for the pts and might have to switch because the performance on console is so ABYSMAL compared to PC. Night and day. But putting the pts on console would be a mistake. It would take away from what little resources and ability zos has to fix this game.

    What i said was updates. Pc gets updates earlier. Like elseweyr. PC can get it on may 20th "early access" but there is no early access for us. We are waiting til june 6th (i think).. And as for playing on a locked down system.. Zos chose to put a game on these locked down systems knowing it was not meant for it. Knowing that it would not be as easy to do things on console as it is on PC. They did this just like some other companies. The difference is zos pretty much abandons us while other companies treat all platforms equally.

    And the QOL changes i am talking about are lorebooks and skyshards. Performance is the biggest issue, but if they refuse to fix it (or acknowledge the difference in performance between PC and console) then at least give us those maps. I have leveled on PC. It is a massive advantage. And with this new zone guide it would have been the perfect time to put it in, but still 4 years later and we dont have it.

    And i stand by what i said about the twitch drops. This is the same thing with putting the game on console and giving earlier updates to PC. Zos knew it would never be as easy to do anything with their console community as with their PC community. If both groups cant have it then why should one? Why not come up with something different for console? Because they dont care.

    At least thats what it looks like to me. And as for the transfers, if i recall they let PC players transfer to console at launch. Thats not what i mean. I mean after a game has deteriorated to a nearly unplayable point, at least for pvp players, then why not allow us to go to PC. Even if we have to own a copy of both. Ive been playing on PC for a bit and the difference is unreal. Sure you lag a bit, but its nothing like console. The choppiness and skill delay are things that are almost always there, that is not an issue on PC.

    Honestly, if they made performance similar to one tamriel or other updates, then I would be fine. I dont care if they want to neglect console on updates and twitch drops, but dont neglect us on performance.
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    Hey, I never participated in twitch drops before so forgive me for my noob question. Are the drops guaranteed? I mean I just link the accounts, watch 10 mins on designated time and bam, I get the crate next day? Ir is it some time of lottery in which I might get the box but it's not certain?
    "I bear the cruel weight of certainty. Total, absolute, relentless certainty. People rarely comprehend the luxury of doubt... the freedom that comes with indecision. I envy you."
    Sotha Sil

    @Michae PC/EU
  • Casdha
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    I can somewhat see ESO live, but I just don't understand the idea of rewarding folks who stop playing your game so they may watch someone else play.

    If I want to see ESO on my screen I'll be playing it.
    Proud member of the Psijic Order - The first wave - The 0.016%

  • Ravereth
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    Only available for PC? Lame

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  • InvictusApollo
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    What is the estimated amount of gems that I can get by "watching" these streams?
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    Hope one day console player's can get benefited from this too
    The one who hates.

  • Alex_Lex
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    Another type of view
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    EU: Beatrice gra-Brog, Rebellie, Yshterie, Jearra , Lirielline
    Christess, Fleuretta, Jubilee Cake, Braviliana, Onyxette
    M'adjirra, Dances-around-Nirn, Nerieth, Estrice, Ann der Wood
    Éternelle, Burns-all-the-babies, Jyggurag
    NA: Dice Twice, Nikka from the barrel
  • Michae
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    @Alex_Lex Thank you! =)
    "I bear the cruel weight of certainty. Total, absolute, relentless certainty. People rarely comprehend the luxury of doubt... the freedom that comes with indecision. I envy you."
    Sotha Sil

    @Michae PC/EU
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    Gotta Bookmark this!
  • ZonasArch
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    eso_lags wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    eso_lags wrote: »
    ZonasArch wrote: »
    Oh yay, yet another thing for pc players. And consoles will get involved in one of these when?

    You'd rather have us PC players not have itt? Blame twitch and Microsoft and Sony (probably mostly Sony) for not getting their siht straight.

    Ya I would. You cant blame everything on sony and Microsoft, plus zos should have known how it would be having a game on multiple platforms..

    Its pretty disgusting how zos treats the console community. Pc players get add ons and zos wont even give us the most basic QOL updates, such as lorebooks and skyshards build into the map, to try to level the playing field. PC players get every update earlier than console and zos wont try to time it right so we both can get it at the same time.

    PC players get twitch drops and zos wont try to do something for us so we can also get something. PC players have much better game performance in every aspect of the game and zos doesnt seem to acknowledge the difference or try to make it better. And theres still more. I wonder if any zos employees even come on console anymore. I wonder why they even bothered to put this game out on console. And i wonder why they wont allow console to PC transfers if they know how bad things are on console..

    So ya I would rather they didnt have them at all for anyone but dont worry they wont do that.

    I feel your pain, but you do understand that there are things, by the very open nature of pc things, easier done for pcs compared to consoles, right? You're playing on a completely locked down system by your own choice. It will always be worse for you... You're depending on two online services to run. Just ask steam players... They hate this thing too.

    As for QoL improvement, you're getting them, aren't you? They are always coming. I play on a very low spec PC, and having these updates is just as important for me so I can get rid of my add-ons. I agree with shards and lorebooks... Those could be given to console map at least. Can't be that hard. And a mini map.

    As for testing everything ahead, pts is literally a second install of the game. ESO gets 90GB of my HDD. Pts takes another 90GB. There's no shared file. This is a huge draw back that console people, by the locked down nature of the systems, won't be too eager to accept, since expanding storage, trivial as it may be, is not something most people are comfortable doing. Setting up pts for a handful of people to try may simply not be worth the cost. It's an entire new server, maintenance, copies and wipes... Not too simple. Gotta be worth it for feedback... And that requires lots of people having easy access to it, which just does not happen for consoles.

    As for having twitch and knowing "it would be a multiple platform", the twitch crate thing came yeaaars after. After thoughts, wasn't designed from the beginning. The whole crate system didn't exist with the game when it came out. Not even with one tamriel. Crates are really recent. Drops, even more so. Twitch also came to consoles a lot later. Twitch is very much a PC thing. Sadly for you, you chose the platform that's systematically in the past. Consoles are not on the edge anymore, haven't been for a decade now, even longer. You can't expect things to move as fast for consoles considering "generation cycles" are even a concept that exists, let alone when you think this cycle is over half a decade long. Things move slow for consoles, and it'll get worse.

    And this is not, by any means, a pcmr thing. I hate that with a passion, but the truth of the matter is that gaming on PC is better. Simple. Whether because Sony people are buttheads, Microsoft people don't understand what gamers want or Nintendo lives in a bubble, the real good place to game is on PC, and you're suffering for having made a poor choice when you first bought the game. I'm truly sorry for it, btw, but it was, ultimately, your own choice. None of the problems I cited are new. They were here in 2014. They were here in 20-whatever.

    As a final note, when the game was released on console, they did allow for account port, so it is doable, and they could very well allow for a port back, even if they charged for it.

    You seem like you mean well but you are wrong about a lot of things here.

    I understand fully that things are easier to do for zos on PC.. I never said anything about getting the PTS. I own the game on PC as well. I bought it for the pts and might have to switch because the performance on console is so ABYSMAL compared to PC. Night and day. But putting the pts on console would be a mistake. It would take away from what little resources and ability zos has to fix this game.

    What i said was updates. Pc gets updates earlier. Like elseweyr. PC can get it on may 20th "early access" but there is no early access for us. We are waiting til june 6th (i think).. And as for playing on a locked down system.. Zos chose to put a game on these locked down systems knowing it was not meant for it. Knowing that it would not be as easy to do things on console as it is on PC. They did this just like some other companies. The difference is zos pretty much abandons us while other companies treat all platforms equally.

    And the QOL changes i am talking about are lorebooks and skyshards. Performance is the biggest issue, but if they refuse to fix it (or acknowledge the difference in performance between PC and console) then at least give us those maps. I have leveled on PC. It is a massive advantage. And with this new zone guide it would have been the perfect time to put it in, but still 4 years later and we dont have it.

    And i stand by what i said about the twitch drops. This is the same thing with putting the game on console and giving earlier updates to PC. Zos knew it would never be as easy to do anything with their console community as with their PC community. If both groups cant have it then why should one? Why not come up with something different for console? Because they dont care.

    At least thats what it looks like to me. And as for the transfers, if i recall they let PC players transfer to console at launch. Thats not what i mean. I mean after a game has deteriorated to a nearly unplayable point, at least for pvp players, then why not allow us to go to PC. Even if we have to own a copy of both. Ive been playing on PC for a bit and the difference is unreal. Sure you lag a bit, but its nothing like console. The choppiness and skill delay are things that are almost always there, that is not an issue on PC.

    Honestly, if they made performance similar to one tamriel or other updates, then I would be fine. I dont care if they want to neglect console on updates and twitch drops, but dont neglect us on performance.

    Do you have graphics sliders on console? That would be so simple to help with performance... I see your points, and I really respect the frustrations, I know how bad performance can hurt the experience. I run on integrated graphics, hence my excitement about removing add-ons with QoL updates.

    And I understand now what you mean about the early access. That one is really odd indeed. Don't really have any idea why that would be. Testing for testing, they could just keep using pts for another 2 weeks, unless it's a PC driven server stress test for the new update? It's weird, dunno.

    And again, I 100% agree that they could give us all shards and books and minimap on the base game. I would get rid of three heavy weight add-ons and you guys on console would have a MUCH easier time.

    Small question... If you have both versions, why are you on console? Because you ported your account back in the day?
  • ZonasArch
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    Michae wrote: »
    Hey, I never participated in twitch drops before so forgive me for my noob question. Are the drops guaranteed? I mean I just link the accounts, watch 10 mins on designated time and bam, I get the crate next day? Ir is it some time of lottery in which I might get the box but it's not certain?

    Some days and streams are guaranteed, some are a chance. It'll be explicit with the word "chance" when relevantt, in the website with the official schedule
  • Nairinhe
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    @Alex_Lex Moscow time! Thank you! =)
  • marius_buys
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    Me and some buddies normally meet up in discord and watch the stream together.
    Golden Clover AD PvP on PC EU (since 2017) Guildex https://eso.guildex.org/view-guild/17669 Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/131211320795196
  • Ciovala
    Ciovala
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    Sweet, more poisons and potions.
    Looking for a mature and helpful social guild - play PvE, PvP, and like crafting.
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