You can stil research them however. Unless you don't own Summerset. Then you can't access jewelcrafting stations

I have the Summerset.. But the jewellery is pre Summerset so that explains it..

And i was able to research some of those too it seem.. How do i missed that one
Thanks folks

Are you saying that without summerset, all jewelry is indestructible?

itsfatbass wrote: »

Tapio75 wrote: »

I have the Summerset.. But the jewellery is pre Summerset so that explains it..

And i was able to research some of those too it seem.. How do i missed that one
Thanks folks

Before Summerset, a lot of guilds and streamers were pushing hard for peps to save jewelry for deconstruction. Unsure if this public awareness is the reason ZOS decided to flag these jewels non-decon, but either way here we are with it that way.

It wasnt really public awareness so much as it was game design 101. Zos intended to place great value in JC in regards to economy and gold sinking by design, thus the only natural course of action to avoid any sort of day 1 inflation was to make sure the entire player base was starting out at the same point. This also allowed them to collect early accurate data on aquistion rate in case they over did it at launch (which ended up being the case).

RodneyRegis wrote: »

But there is really no reason not to allow it now. Would also stop the need to have to check before buying.

To me - the 'check before buying' would make more sense if it was made more clear/obvious to the buyer that the jewelry is pre-Summerset.
I don't mind buying some pre-summerset stuff if I only need something to fill a jewelry slot and don't intend to try to break it.

But it's a clear PITA to have to look for the mundane text that blends in with all the other descriptive text to find the disclaimer.

The disclaimer should be bolder, or in a different color to stand out clearly, and should be seen in the guild trader description in clear and obvious text.

Or just get rid altogether. What difference does it make now?

Can you transmute pre-summerset jewelry?

Why would anyone be hoarding pre-summerset jewelry? If they have then good on them for forgoing all that inventory space. Takes a lot of jewelry to level to 50.

And how is it unfair? That's like saying it's unfair that some people had millions in the bank and could afford to buy jewelry. They had to collect the items at some stage.

Again, I understand it when JC started, but lvl 50 is hardly rare these days and even if it were, what do I care about anyone elses crafting levels? Nobody crafts or improves jewellery anyway unless they are loaded. It's only really useful for transmuting.

RodneyRegis wrote: »

Can you transmute pre-summerset jewelry?

Why would anyone be hoarding pre-summerset jewelry? If they have then good on them for forgoing all that inventory space. Takes a lot of jewelry to level to 50.

And how is it unfair? That's like saying it's unfair that some people had millions in the bank and could afford to buy jewelry. They had to collect the items at some stage.

Again, I understand it when JC started, but lvl 50 is hardly rare these days and even if it were, what do I care about anyone elses crafting levels? Nobody crafts or improves jewellery anyway unless they are loaded. It's only really useful for transmuting.

I've got a lot of pre-Summerset 'set' jewelry in storage - most of it I never bound, because it could be used by other players to complete a set rather than crush it for XP.

I don't sell it mostly because I don't want to be the guy who sells such a piece to someone unfamiliar with the system and buys it thinking s/he CAN use it for crushing it for XP.

I just can't bring myself to sell it to a vendor for Pfennigs on the Groat.

Druid40 wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Honest question: Why?

Because jewelry is jewelry. By your logic, all pre-Clockwork City DLC gear should be untransmutable.

Not the same logic. Pre-Summerset jewelry was not allowed to be deconstructed so that players didn't hit Lvl 50 day one and wreck the economy.

Transmutation was introduced to alleviate grinding, which locking all previously grinded gear would contradict. But they added a limiting factor to that as well - the cap on transmute crystals and how many it takes to transmute a single piece of gear. This kept players from getting all BiS gear within mere days.

I can see getting rid of that distinction now, a year later, but it's not necessary. If it's an easy fix, then yeah...but if it would take some effort, then I don't think it's a good use of development time.

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

RodneyRegis wrote: »

Or just get rid altogether. What difference does it make now?

It still makes a big difference.

Players who hoarded (are still hoarding) pre-Summerset jewelry could insta-level their jewelry crafting skill to 50 ... without the need to acquire rings/necklaces through normal means for decon.

That’s not really fair to other players who have spent the time to get their jewelry through dolmens, questing, PvP coffers, or other in-game means.

I would imagine most people who hoarded jewelry pre summerset are probably level 50 in JC by now. Deconning that old jewelry would remove them from the game, clearing up inventory space and making some jewelry more valuable.

Without even farming dolmens, and just playing normally, I have 1 at 50, and 3 in the 40s in JC, just deconning stuff I get doing content in general.