Knootewoot wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Murkmire has been great for me and my magblade, been playing it more this update then I have in any others. And doing better with it, magnb is still my worst class though lol. But i'm getting there. I don't have alot of the issues people are saying they have with their magblade. Maybe it's a playstyle thing...I don't depend on shadow image or being able to stealth away from thing and I run out of the box non meta builds as I do with all my characters. The day I stopped playing with those 2 skills was the day I started having way more fun as magblade, and started doing much better with it also. I play my magblade like I play my templar and dk.

So, probably heavy armor and not light armor?

What is your play style then?

I did try heavy a few times, but light armor with high resists now is what I use now. And my playstyle is melee magblade.
These might give you a better idea of how I play:
https://youtu.be/OW0dyWFRNkE
https://youtu.be/BbtjbrXod6s

Akinos wrote: »

I did try heavy a few times, but light armor with high resists now is what I use now. And my playstyle is melee magblade.
These might give you a better idea of how I play:
https://youtu.be/OW0dyWFRNkE
https://youtu.be/BbtjbrXod6s

unusual and... unviable vs stam with bleeds, manadk, manatemplar and many others. pretty sure that that on each kill as on video u had many death with this playstyle.

Akinos wrote: »

Murkmire has been great for me and my magblade, been playing it more this update then I have in any others. And doing better with it, magnb is still my worst class though lol. But i'm getting there. I don't have alot of the issues people are saying they have with their magblade. Maybe it's a playstyle thing...I don't depend on shadow image or being able to stealth away from things and I run out of the box non meta builds as I do with all my characters. The day I stopped playing with those 2 skills was the day I started having way more fun as magblade, and started doing much better with it also. I play my magblade like I play my templar and dk, up close and personal.

@Akinos then enlighten us what setup you run. I refuse to run cloak too, - well I stick to dark cloak, and havent used shade in a while, but the exactly the playstyle you are talking about is the playstyle that performs worst. Aka saptankish, even though sap is a meh skill

Jeezye wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Murkmire has been great for me and my magblade, been playing it more this update then I have in any others. And doing better with it, magnb is still my worst class though lol. But i'm getting there. I don't have alot of the issues people are saying they have with their magblade. Maybe it's a playstyle thing...I don't depend on shadow image or being able to stealth away from things and I run out of the box non meta builds as I do with all my characters. The day I stopped playing with those 2 skills was the day I started having way more fun as magblade, and started doing much better with it also. I play my magblade like I play my templar and dk, up close and personal.

@Akinos then enlighten us what setup you run. I refuse to run cloak too, - well I stick to dark cloak, and havent used shade in a while, but the exactly the playstyle you are talking about is the playstyle that performs worst. Aka saptankish, even though sap is a meh skill

Whatever playstyle that allows me to stay in the fight and still put out high damage without being squishy.

brandonv516 wrote: »

Jeezye wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Murkmire has been great for me and my magblade, been playing it more this update then I have in any others. And doing better with it, magnb is still my worst class though lol. But i'm getting there. I don't have alot of the issues people are saying they have with their magblade. Maybe it's a playstyle thing...I don't depend on shadow image or being able to stealth away from things and I run out of the box non meta builds as I do with all my characters. The day I stopped playing with those 2 skills was the day I started having way more fun as magblade, and started doing much better with it also. I play my magblade like I play my templar and dk, up close and personal.

@Akinos then enlighten us what setup you run. I refuse to run cloak too, - well I stick to dark cloak, and havent used shade in a while, but the exactly the playstyle you are talking about is the playstyle that performs worst. Aka saptankish, even though sap is a meh skill

Looks like DW/Resto and Destro/Resto -Mechanical Acuity (maybe?) and Spell Strategist.

Some good clips in the video but I think that this playstyle is prone to death quite a bit. Obviously the guy in the videos can make it work but I'm sure it's frustrating as hell lol.

It is, DW/Resto and Destro/Resto, and yeah in some of the clips I had on mechanical acuity and spell strat. None of these are recent clips tho and I am working on getting newer ones.

Anyway, ask and you shall recieve, this is what I've been running lately: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildEditor?id=103481
ele drain and fear slots can be replaced with whatever and flame clench, or you can dual wield and run mark or w/e skills you want to in that spot. I've used lotus fan there, on both dw and destro setups. crippling, lotus and flame clench is alot of DoT pressure for example.

And yes molag kena is sustainable, I love having huge on demand burst just from procing kena and spell strat with 2 light attacks. Only real downsides I've noticed while playing this build is the lack of AoE and there are alot ot buffs you gotta keep up. I've been trying to figure different skills to slot so that I don't have to keep so many buffs active because it interferes with my TTK sometimes.

Knootewoot wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Anyway, ask and you shall recieve,

1 million gold please. PC-EU

If i had a million gold on the EU server, i would probably give it to you since I've never played there before

Datthaw wrote: »

I mean... I can see how that build cam be tanky. I have made a few tanky ones with armor master, shield and heal cloak. But without snare removal I don't see how you survive. That is my biggest problem with magnb I fail at shade I just get snared to hell and can't move. End up spamming shield and heal...

But if you can make it work, kudos.

I just slot mistform If i feel like I'm getting snared too much.

Jeezye wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Jeezye wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Murkmire has been great for me and my magblade, been playing it more this update then I have in any others. And doing better with it, magnb is still my worst class though lol. But i'm getting there. I don't have alot of the issues people are saying they have with their magblade. Maybe it's a playstyle thing...I don't depend on shadow image or being able to stealth away from things and I run out of the box non meta builds as I do with all my characters. The day I stopped playing with those 2 skills was the day I started having way more fun as magblade, and started doing much better with it also. I play my magblade like I play my templar and dk, up close and personal.

@Akinos then enlighten us what setup you run. I refuse to run cloak too, - well I stick to dark cloak, and havent used shade in a while, but the exactly the playstyle you are talking about is the playstyle that performs worst. Aka saptankish, even though sap is a meh skill

Whatever playstyle that allows me to stay in the fight and still put out high damage without being squishy.

brandonv516 wrote: »

Jeezye wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Murkmire has been great for me and my magblade, been playing it more this update then I have in any others. And doing better with it, magnb is still my worst class though lol. But i'm getting there. I don't have alot of the issues people are saying they have with their magblade. Maybe it's a playstyle thing...I don't depend on shadow image or being able to stealth away from things and I run out of the box non meta builds as I do with all my characters. The day I stopped playing with those 2 skills was the day I started having way more fun as magblade, and started doing much better with it also. I play my magblade like I play my templar and dk, up close and personal.

@Akinos then enlighten us what setup you run. I refuse to run cloak too, - well I stick to dark cloak, and havent used shade in a while, but the exactly the playstyle you are talking about is the playstyle that performs worst. Aka saptankish, even though sap is a meh skill

Looks like DW/Resto and Destro/Resto -Mechanical Acuity (maybe?) and Spell Strategist.

Some good clips in the video but I think that this playstyle is prone to death quite a bit. Obviously the guy in the videos can make it work but I'm sure it's frustrating as hell lol.

It is, DW/Resto and Destro/Resto, and yeah in some of the clips I had on mechanical acuity and spell strat. None of these are recent clips tho and I am working on getting newer ones.

Anyway, ask and you shall recieve, this is what I've been running lately: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildEditor?id=103481
ele drain and fear slots can be replaced with whatever and flame clench, or you can dual wield and run mark or w/e skills you want to in that spot. I've used lotus fan there, on both dw and destro setups. crippling, lotus and flame clench is alot of DoT pressure for example.

And yes molag kena is sustainable, I love having huge on demand burst just from procing kena and spell strat with 2 light attacks. Only real downsides I've noticed while playing this build is the lack of AoE and there are alot ot buffs you gotta keep up. I've been trying to figure different skills to slot so that I don't have to keep so many buffs active because it interferes with my TTK sometimes.

thanks for sharing, nothing too fancy besides kena which I havent run for ages. Interesting to see you using it, I'm not sure if it solves my lack of damage but ill give it a try again. One thing just popped up, that is: does kena work with imbue? meaning if you do LA + imbue + LA doest it actually proc kena? that be really interesting

Akinos wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

I mean... I can see how that build cam be tanky. I have made a few tanky ones with armor master, shield and heal cloak. But without snare removal I don't see how you survive. That is my biggest problem with magnb I fail at shade I just get snared to hell and can't move. End up spamming shield and heal...

But if you can make it work, kudos.

I just slot mistform If i feel like I'm getting snared too much.

Played with mist a long time together with healing ward, the thing is - it cancels 80% of our healings since its all hot based... doesn't really synergize well with the class, but hey its something at least

Don't have imbue unlocked on my magblade so I couldn't tell you that. I don't see why it wouldn't work though. And about mistform, it's just a matter of knowing when to use it imo. You cast harness and then mist for example and get around a corner long enough to use your other heals.

technohic wrote: »

I took my khajiit stamblade magicka and using 5-1-1 light , pelinals, 7th, bloodspawn 2h front with my direct damage, forward momentum Vigor soul harvest. backbar lightning destro with utility and soul tether. I basically wanted a NB to play similar to stam but be more based around the magicka utility than burst. And I wanted a heal. When I'm proc and buffed up, vigors tooltip is not as high as a stamblade obviously, (around 11k) but I can cloak more tics out.

If khajiit stays similar to live from PTS, I'll get a good buff in mag crit, recovery and resource pools.

nicee yeah I've been to the point where I also though why not go hybrid and utilize great vigor und forward momentum on top the magicka skills. but as soon as you arrange your skill composition you'll find out that there's no reason to slot magicka skills any more because their stam peers are all better lol. only 2 magicka skills that I left on the bars were cripple and strife, but the latter more because I'm in nostalgia about the skill..

Cloak should require 5 pieces of light armor AND get snare/ dot/detection removal

Here here

technohic wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

If they gave refreshing path a snare removal bonus it would open up so many more build options for magnb and i don't think it would be viable for stam toons to use since they already have shuffle and fm. I think we need to get kenapkk to push for this as out class rep

What do yall think about this? Would it have a chance or get shot down? Because at this point we are the only spec without snare removal...besides maybe magden?

I'd say theres redundancy in the class for major expedition in blur and path. 1 could trade that. Blur would then look a lot like magicka shuffle, or path could be unique utility that while on the path you're immune but I'd settle for just removal since they seem to only want about 3 seconds of that.

well effectively you only have about 3 seconds of immunity if you exit path, since the duration isn't that long and there's not benefit from having a snare removal if you keep sitting in the same area. I think the idea is really cool and could bring back some uniqueness to the magblade class

Better yet add it to dark cloak. The 3.5 seconds of minor protection is a joke. You can get minor protection by slotting temporal guard, 3.5 seconds is nothing and might as well not be there.