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validifyedneb18_ESO · January 2019

(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) When you hit a taunted monster with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack or any enemy that is stunned or immobilized with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack, you deal an additional 12040 Physical Damage. This effect can occur once every 7 seconds.

Met a charming chap at Vlas today, who would sneak wait in stealth for as long as it took for you to go unawares, then sneak up, CC and 1shot you with Onslaught for 17k.
Thats in Cyrodiil ofcouse so the true damage of that onslaught was 34k, something I dont think ive ever seen that ability manage to do before.

Might want to nerf this one ZOS, just a thought.

Vapirko · January 2019

validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) When you hit a taunted monster with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack or any enemy that is stunned or immobilized with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack, you deal an additional 12040 Physical Damage. This effect can occur once every 7 seconds.
Met a charming chap at Vlas today, who would sneak wait in stealth for as long as it took for you to go unawares, then sneak up, CC and 1shot you with Onslaught for 17k.
Thats in Cyrodiil ofcouse so the true damage of that onslaught was 34k, something I dont think ive ever seen that ability manage to do before.

My real question is what happens when the stealth archers get ahold of this, and queue 2 snipes in the air, 1 to stealth-stun and one to hit for an additional ~17k damage on top of what it already does.

Might want to nerf this one ZOS, just a thought.

I’m not seeing the connection between that sets 5th trait and what you’re describing. It only works on a fully charged heavy attack while you’re still stunned. It does not work with Onslaught or Snipe. This set is pretty uselsss for the most part.

validifyedneb18_ESO · January 2019

Vapirko wrote: »
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) When you hit a taunted monster with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack or any enemy that is stunned or immobilized with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack, you deal an additional 12040 Physical Damage. This effect can occur once every 7 seconds.
Met a charming chap at Vlas today, who would sneak wait in stealth for as long as it took for you to go unawares, then sneak up, CC and 1shot you with Onslaught for 17k.
Thats in Cyrodiil ofcouse so the true damage of that onslaught was 34k, something I dont think ive ever seen that ability manage to do before.

My real question is what happens when the stealth archers get ahold of this, and queue 2 snipes in the air, 1 to stealth-stun and one to hit for an additional ~17k damage on top of what it already does.

Might want to nerf this one ZOS, just a thought.
I’m not seeing the connection between that sets 5th trait and what you’re describing. It only works on a fully charged heavy attack while you’re still stunned. It does not work with Onslaught or Snipe. This set is pretty uselsss for the most part.

"...with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack or any enemy..."

or not and

CC -> anything

Dont need to heavy attack at all.

Ilsabet · January 2019

"When you hit a taunted monster with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack or any enemy that is stunned or immobilized with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack, you deal an additional 12040 Physical Damage. This effect can occur once every 7 seconds."

Both cases involve hitting an enemy with a fully-charged heavy attack. The "or" means it can either be a taunted monster or a stunned/immobilized enemy.

Qwazzy · January 2019

(5 items) When you hit a taunted monster with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack or any enemy that is stunned or immobilized with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack, you deal an additional 12040 Physical Damage. This effect can occur once every 7 seconds.

validifyedneb18_ESO · January 2019

Ilsabet wrote: »

"When you hit a taunted monster with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack or any enemy that is stunned or immobilized with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack, you deal an additional 12040 Physical Damage. This effect can occur once every 7 seconds."

Both cases involve hitting an enemy with a fully-charged heavy attack. The "or" means it can either be a taunted monster or a stunned/immobilized enemy.

Fair, I guess the search for exactly that that ganker was doing continues.
I still think the set is going to be a massive issue with the queuing of abilities or the ability to have allies in a zerg CC for you. Heavy attacks are already scary enough and the stun meta is making people drain stamina on breaks faster than they could burn it on abilities.

Left4Daud · January 2019

Uppercut from stealth hits way harder than a heavy attack and Doyle is far from a reliable proc set (against good or even decent players).

Vapirko · January 2019

What’s your build OP maybe we can start there. Do you have enough resists and crit resist? We’re you standing around in light armor with no shields up? The other culprit can be that stamblades get an insane amount of single target damage perks especially from stealth without even trying. So some extent it’s almost unavoidable if the ganker knows their stuff.

validifyedneb18_ESO · January 2019

Vapirko wrote: »

What’s your build OP maybe we can start there. Do you have enough resists and crit resist? We’re you standing around in light armor with no shields up? The other culprit can be that stamblades get an insane amount of single target damage perks especially from stealth without even trying. So some extent it’s almost unavoidable if the ganker knows their stuff.

Because it's the pts and for some reason ZOS didn't think to add deadly strikes to the testing sets, so you have to buy it from random packs in vlas.

Sleep724 · January 2019

This set has been out since dragonbones but now it’s a problem??

goldenarcher1 · January 2019

Surprise Attack from stealth>Doylemish heavy attack>cloak>Onslaught>Executioner (if needed)

That might work.

Brrrofski · January 2019

The guy who gankes you is probably wearing sword singers and automaton.

Koolio · January 2019

goldenarcher1 wrote: »

Surprise Attack from stealth>Doylemish heavy attack>cloak>Onslaught>Executioner (if needed)

That might work.

Just grabbed a Greatsword and jewelry for this today

imenace · January 2019

XD

JAwtunes · January 2019

Sleep724 wrote: »

This set has been out since dragonbones but now it’s a problem??

^^
OP, try using the set then you'll see its pretty trash if you're trying to one shot someone who has learnt how to cc break.

This set originally proced off all heavy attacks so could be exploited by bow gankers who could charge the heavy attack while snipe was flying. That was quickly changed (I cant remember if it made it off PTS like that).

Caluurion is a much better set for melee ganking, esp on mNB. I have had this on my recap before when on a light or medium armour build... never Doylemish though

Juhasow · January 2019

I've tested this set once when it was released with many stealth combos and for most of the part it didnt worked. It can work only against people who choose to not break free for like 2+ seconds but those people would be dead even withour use of doylemish.

JAwtunes · January 2019

Juhasow wrote: »

I've tested this set once when it was released with many stealth combos and for most of the part it didnt worked. It can work only against people who choose to not break free for like 2+ seconds but those people would be dead even withour use of doylemish.

Exactly lol

Aurielle · January 2019

validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »

Ilsabet wrote: »

"When you hit a taunted monster with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack or any enemy that is stunned or immobilized with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack, you deal an additional 12040 Physical Damage. This effect can occur once every 7 seconds."

Both cases involve hitting an enemy with a fully-charged heavy attack. The "or" means it can either be a taunted monster or a stunned/immobilized enemy.

Fair, I guess the search for exactly that that ganker was doing continues.

Was probably something like Sword Singer + Balorgh.

Onslaught costs 150 ultimate, so that’s 300 WD from Balorgh plus 400 WD from SS. They might have been using Automaton as well (assuming it’s a full gank build that sacrifices sustain for one-shots). If so, Onslaught would be buffed by a grand total of 1100 additional WD. Given that most stamina builds hover around 3000 WD unbuffed, it would be very easy to get a huge tooltip for Onslaught.

dodgehopper_ESO · January 2019

Vapirko wrote: »
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) When you hit a taunted monster with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack or any enemy that is stunned or immobilized with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack, you deal an additional 12040 Physical Damage. This effect can occur once every 7 seconds.
Met a charming chap at Vlas today, who would sneak wait in stealth for as long as it took for you to go unawares, then sneak up, CC and 1shot you with Onslaught for 17k.
Thats in Cyrodiil ofcouse so the true damage of that onslaught was 34k, something I dont think ive ever seen that ability manage to do before.

My real question is what happens when the stealth archers get ahold of this, and queue 2 snipes in the air, 1 to stealth-stun and one to hit for an additional ~17k damage on top of what it already does.

Might want to nerf this one ZOS, just a thought.
I’m not seeing the connection between that sets 5th trait and what you’re describing. It only works on a fully charged heavy attack while you’re still stunned. It does not work with Onslaught or Snipe. This set is pretty uselsss for the most part.

Also notice its a ***MELEE*** heavy attack. This does not include archery.

OneKhajiitCrimeWave · January 2019

Saw a guy on my team was running it in a BG. Whispered me saying "MagDK?" and linked a Nirnhoned Greatsword of Doylemish.

Being a good team mate i decided i would wait until he charged a heavy and then Fossilize his target.

When Doylemish connects it's no joke in the damage it does.

But the set requires some decent setup or an accomplice to use it to its full potential.

TrinityBreaker · January 2019

validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
Vapirko wrote: »
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(4 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) When you hit a taunted monster with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack or any enemy that is stunned or immobilized with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack, you deal an additional 12040 Physical Damage. This effect can occur once every 7 seconds.
Met a charming chap at Vlas today, who would sneak wait in stealth for as long as it took for you to go unawares, then sneak up, CC and 1shot you with Onslaught for 17k.
Thats in Cyrodiil ofcouse so the true damage of that onslaught was 34k, something I dont think ive ever seen that ability manage to do before.

My real question is what happens when the stealth archers get ahold of this, and queue 2 snipes in the air, 1 to stealth-stun and one to hit for an additional ~17k damage on top of what it already does.

Might want to nerf this one ZOS, just a thought.
I’m not seeing the connection between that sets 5th trait and what you’re describing. It only works on a fully charged heavy attack while you’re still stunned. It does not work with Onslaught or Snipe. This set is pretty uselsss for the most part.
"...with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack or any enemy..."

or not and

CC -> anything

Dont need to heavy attack at all.

Actually yeah, you do. I use this set on live (Xbox NA) and this 5th piece will not proc on a stunned/immobilized enemy unless you heavy attack.

Also,
When you hit a taunted monster with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack or any enemy that is stunned or immobilized with a fully-charged Melee Heavy Attack