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MilwaukeeScott
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Now that Champion Points won't be in "Our Foreseeable Future", do you think we will go back to straight levels?
I'd be level 1200 and would need new armor,
which
would need new crafting material!
I'd be level 1200 and would need new armor,
which
would need new crafting material!
PS4NA
All I see is hate and rage from people who don't understand how to.....
All I see is hate and rage from people who don't understand how to.....
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LiquidPony✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Huh?
They aren't raising the CP cap in the foreseeable future.
Nothing has been said about getting rid of CP.6 -
MilwaukeeScott✭✭✭✭✭LiquidPony wrote: »Huh?
They aren't raising the CP cap in the foreseeable future.
Nothing has been said about getting rid of CP.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/453240/its-official-no-champion-point-increase-next-update-thank-you-rich-for-listening#latestPS4NA
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Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭*shrug* I'm fine with gaining levels instead of CP. In fact..... I'd prefer it - as I know how to do that (well, I know how to do it in other games....)
I'm sorry, but CP makes no sense to me. I do NOT WANT my tankden to have to use either stam or mag. I want her to use health as she has for 50 levels. I have no idea why this all changes just because all of a sudden she doesn't get "real" levels, she gets CP instead.
AND I have no clue how I should use that CP, since she's a tankden, and I don't have any idea why she would want all that stam and mag.
Now, entering caveat.... I play her as a tankden because my lag is abysmal (2000 ms+) so having the pet is a really good mitigation against the lag. And heavy armor + lots of health means that she survives stuff that most of you laugh off. Well, try laughing it off with my lag, and tell me how much fun it is.....
So I'm - conflicted, and confuzzled. And.... since this game doesn't seem to work in any way comparable to earlier TES games which I've played since Arena released (unsurprising since those are SPMR).... I'm actually not sure how much traction I have here.
I love the game. But I can't get through the quest lines - because lag like mine means that the end boss(es) in even mini-quest lines are something I can't manage. I can't even get through the Soul-Shriven line reliably. My main is sitting at Valley of Blades (at level 50....) and the only time I tried it ( a day or so back), she was dead in less than 30 seconds on the first boss.
My reflexes are okay; my mind is NOT a problem. What's a problem for me is lag. I can't fix the lag. So - I'm thinking I might have to go back to RIFT where the combat is more forgiving. And I could do the best housing in any game on the internet there....
I guess I can hope that TESVI will NOT be either MMO or VR. Otherwise, I think I might just have to be happy with Skyrim forever.
I'm a pretty sad panda right now.2 -
fgoron2000✭✭✭✭MilwaukeeScott wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »Huh?
They aren't raising the CP cap in the foreseeable future.
Nothing has been said about getting rid of CP.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/453240/its-official-no-champion-point-increase-next-update-thank-you-rich-for-listening#latest
According to the official announcement stream, from the 15th I believe, they are not raising the usable CP cap above 810 at this time, nor do they have any plans to do so in the forseeable future. They did say that they were going to monitor the situation, and that they would consider discussing options at a later time.
They said nothing during the official announcement stream about removing CP, or replacing it with anything else. Please point out the specific comment in the thread that you referenced, that indicates anything other than what LiquidPony stated. If ZOS expanded on or corrected anything from the stream, I did not see it in the thread that you linked.
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Edaphon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭MilwaukeeScott wrote: »Now that Champion Points won't be in "Our Foreseeable Future", do you think we will go back to straight levels?
I'd be level 1200 and would need new armor,
which
would need new crafting material!
You would be level 50 with 81 Veteran Ranks and there's just no way that they will ever bring back the massively unpopular and boring VR system.
And as others have already pointed out the CP system isn't going away any time soon anyway, the cap just won't be increased.0 -
Yamenstein✭✭✭✭✭fgoron2000 wrote: »MilwaukeeScott wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »Huh?
They aren't raising the CP cap in the foreseeable future.
Nothing has been said about getting rid of CP.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/453240/its-official-no-champion-point-increase-next-update-thank-you-rich-for-listening#latest
According to the official announcement stream, from the 15th I believe, they are not raising the usable CP cap above 810 at this time, nor do they have any plans to do so in the forseeable future. They did say that they were going to monitor the situation, and that they would consider discussing options at a later time.
They said nothing during the official announcement stream about removing CP, or replacing it with anything else. Please point out the specific comment in the thread that you referenced, that indicates anything other than what LiquidPony stated. If ZOS expanded on or corrected anything from the stream, I did not see it in the thread that you linked.
This.
Not sure why someone would give a link to another thread made by just another player as though it is proof of anything.
Crown Crates are a trap. Don't fall for the gamble! Balance? What Balance? Balance, smellance.
Necro for them RP feels.8 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »*shrug* I'm fine with gaining levels instead of CP. In fact..... I'd prefer it - as I know how to do that (well, I know how to do it in other games....)
I'm sorry, but CP makes no sense to me. I do NOT WANT my tankden to have to use either stam or mag. I want her to use health as she has for 50 levels. I have no idea why this all changes just because all of a sudden she doesn't get "real" levels, she gets CP instead.
AND I have no clue how I should use that CP, since she's a tankden, and I don't have any idea why she would want all that stam and mag.
Now, entering caveat.... I play her as a tankden because my lag is abysmal (2000 ms+) so having the pet is a really good mitigation against the lag. And heavy armor + lots of health means that she survives stuff that most of you laugh off. Well, try laughing it off with my lag, and tell me how much fun it is.....
So I'm - conflicted, and confuzzled. And.... since this game doesn't seem to work in any way comparable to earlier TES games which I've played since Arena released (unsurprising since those are SPMR).... I'm actually not sure how much traction I have here.
I love the game. But I can't get through the quest lines - because lag like mine means that the end boss(es) in even mini-quest lines are something I can't manage. I can't even get through the Soul-Shriven line reliably. My main is sitting at Valley of Blades (at level 50....) and the only time I tried it ( a day or so back), she was dead in less than 30 seconds on the first boss.
My reflexes are okay; my mind is NOT a problem. What's a problem for me is lag. I can't fix the lag. So - I'm thinking I might have to go back to RIFT where the combat is more forgiving. And I could do the best housing in any game on the internet there....
I guess I can hope that TESVI will NOT be either MMO or VR. Otherwise, I think I might just have to be happy with Skyrim forever.
I'm a pretty sad panda right now.
If you’ve got constant 2000ms ping time that ain’t the game. Also CP doesn’t just give you only Stam or mag lol, that’s just resource points. CP does provide some max stat but it also does many other things. So first maybe update your network gear and ISP or internet package, then try a good routing service like Mudfish if you live outside the server country, then when you have a normal connection come and make comments about CP.1 -
Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭MilwaukeeScott wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »Huh?
They aren't raising the CP cap in the foreseeable future.
Nothing has been said about getting rid of CP.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/453240/its-official-no-champion-point-increase-next-update-thank-you-rich-for-listening#latest
And again nothing about getting rid of CP. You people really are just being jerks about this. It is getting to the point where you should get reported for trolling posts.
Not being raised next DLC is not the same as going away. He obviously meant not raising this DLC. It is likely we will see a raise when the chapter is released.
If not then the definitly by the end of the year. They know full well you cannot remove vertical provression in this game without seriously damaging it.Edited by Skwor on January 21, 2019 5:39AM4 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They will replace or add to the current system.
Either CP will be completely removed and players will be compensated. It is likely that a different system would take its place.
Or they will leave the 810 points as they are, maybe tweak them a little, and build a new system in addition to leaving the old one frozen the way it is now.
I am definitely not in favor of new materials as the materials beyond Ebony are already spitting on the lore. "How come my character in Skyrim can't wear Rubedite armor? It's way better than Ebony." Besides, unless they add something like transmutation gems that allow us to upgrade the level of old gear, nobody will be looking forward to having to grind new stuff. Especially since with the One Tamriel system a lvl38 character in lvl38 gear deals the same damage as a lvl50 character in level50 gear (as long as skills, passives and CP are the same).This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They will replace or add to the current system.
Either CP will be completely removed and players will be compensated. It is likely that a different system would take its place.
Or they will leave the 810 points as they are, maybe tweak them a little, and build a new system in addition to leaving the old one frozen the way it is now.
I am definitely not in favor of new materials as the materials beyond Ebony are already spitting on the lore. "How come my character in Skyrim can't wear Rubedite armor? It's way better than Ebony." Besides, unless they add something like transmutation gems that allow us to upgrade the level of old gear, nobody will be looking forward to having to grind new stuff. Especially since with the One Tamriel system a lvl38 character in lvl38 gear deals the same damage as a lvl50 character in level50 gear (as long as skills, passives and CP are the same).
Or they will tweak the trees and allow CP to grow again or a number of other options. No need to create a limit where one does not exist.
Fact is whatever they do there will be vertical progression and those who hate CP now will hate whatever happens next wether they get replaced or tweaked. They just cannot seem to wrap their head around the fact it is not going away.0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »*shrug* I'm fine with gaining levels instead of CP. In fact..... I'd prefer it - as I know how to do that (well, I know how to do it in other games....)
I'm sorry, but CP makes no sense to me. I do NOT WANT my tankden to have to use either stam or mag. I want her to use health as she has for 50 levels. I have no idea why this all changes just because all of a sudden she doesn't get "real" levels, she gets CP instead.
AND I have no clue how I should use that CP, since she's a tankden, and I don't have any idea why she would want all that stam and mag.
Now, entering caveat.... I play her as a tankden because my lag is abysmal (2000 ms+) so having the pet is a really good mitigation against the lag. And heavy armor + lots of health means that she survives stuff that most of you laugh off. Well, try laughing it off with my lag, and tell me how much fun it is.....
So I'm - conflicted, and confuzzled. And.... since this game doesn't seem to work in any way comparable to earlier TES games which I've played since Arena released (unsurprising since those are SPMR).... I'm actually not sure how much traction I have here.
I love the game. But I can't get through the quest lines - because lag like mine means that the end boss(es) in even mini-quest lines are something I can't manage. I can't even get through the Soul-Shriven line reliably. My main is sitting at Valley of Blades (at level 50....) and the only time I tried it ( a day or so back), she was dead in less than 30 seconds on the first boss.
My reflexes are okay; my mind is NOT a problem. What's a problem for me is lag. I can't fix the lag. So - I'm thinking I might have to go back to RIFT where the combat is more forgiving. And I could do the best housing in any game on the internet there....
I guess I can hope that TESVI will NOT be either MMO or VR. Otherwise, I think I might just have to be happy with Skyrim forever.
I'm a pretty sad panda right now.
If you’ve got constant 2000ms ping time that ain’t the game. Also CP doesn’t just give you only Stam or mag lol, that’s just resource points. CP does provide some max stat but it also does many other things. So first maybe update your network gear and ISP or internet package, then try a good routing service like Mudfish if you live outside the server country, then when you have a normal connection come and make comments about CP.
Um. The ONLY connection available to me is satellite internet. I haven't any way to "upgrade" that. There IS not one other option available to me, no matter how much I'm willing to pay.
I tried to lease my own T1. They don't do that here.
Oh, btw. I live in the lower 48, 40 miles one way from "real broadband". The town 20 miles north of us just got high speed internet this last year, but they aren't interested in running it here for less than 100 full time users.
Also... we don't have either "real tv" (we pay almost $100 US a month so husband can watch Judge Judy and stupid games) or "real mobile" - cell phones do not work here at my house. I have a mobile. It doesn't work here. I have it for emergencies on the road.....
Seriously - I live 40 miles north of St George UT - and NONE of the above works in my end of this valley. Yes, some people east of us about 3 miles have better options - but at my house, I'm behind a major volcanic ridge - and nope there is NO service which is going to make it better.
I'm lucky to have wildblue. And I'm thankful I do - before wildblue... I had dialup. That was it. Still.... I'd really love to be able to play this game.
The weird thing is, both WoW and RIFT worked a lot better for me, combat wise, and considering lag. Unfortunately, they both went in directions with the games which weren't - going to be fun for me. So I left them.
I might have to go back to RIFT though. At the very least, the housing is superlative. I could be happy with that without ever playing the travesty of the game itself.2 -
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✭✭✭✭Not sure why OP thinks the CP system is going anywhere. They wouldnt make that kind of announcement without some sort of system to replace the old. And since its been about 5 days since they announced the hold on CP increases and their decision to re-evaluate the current system. I seriously doubt they've come to any informative decision on the matter. At this point it would probably be far easier for them to rework the current mechanism than to rip it out of the game and replace it with normal levels, or to come up with a new one. Especially with so much of the endgame content requiring quite a bit of investment into the CP system for the player to be viable in Trials and certain dungeons.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax0 -
MilwaukeeScott✭✭✭✭✭It's ZOS. What make you think they won't trash the Champion Point System?PS4NA
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