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Stam Sorcs best spammable?

Ohhgrizyyy
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Outside of crushing weapon is shrouded daggers or rending their best spammable?
Playing on PS4 NA server and current characters are CP 750

Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magsorc PvP (outdated)
Lvl 50 EP Wood Elf Nightblade (Currently my crafter)
Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magplar PvP (outdated healbot)
Lvl 50 EP Redguard Stam DK PvE (updating)
Lvl 50 EP Dark Elf Mag DK PvP

All my builds are outdated...I quit for a year lmao

PSN ID: SDL_Griz
  • tactx
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    Just get crushing weapon.
    “No one's happiness but my own is in my power to achieve or to destroy.” - John Galt, Atlas Shrugged
  • Ohhgrizyyy
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    tactx wrote: »
    Just get crushing weapon.

    I will at some point but I havent even leveled the character yet. I need a dedicated PvE dps toon as I'm mostly a PvP'er and they are the only ones that appeal to me right now. I have a stam dk that I'm bored of and dont really want to level a mag dps and farm mages guild when I'm gonna be making 2-3 necro's when they launch
    Playing on PS4 NA server and current characters are CP 750

    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magsorc PvP (outdated)
    Lvl 50 EP Wood Elf Nightblade (Currently my crafter)
    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magplar PvP (outdated healbot)
    Lvl 50 EP Redguard Stam DK PvE (updating)
    Lvl 50 EP Dark Elf Mag DK PvP

    All my builds are outdated...I quit for a year lmao

    PSN ID: SDL_Griz
  • LiquidPony
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    Rending Slashes.

    Crushing Weapon and Shrouded Daggers are too expensive to sustain because stamsorcs have trashcan-tier sustain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kod_JZGM_U
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    Rending is great because it also frees up a slot for blade cloak
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Rending Slashes.

    Crushing Weapon and Shrouded Daggers are too expensive to sustain because stamsorcs have trashcan-tier sustain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kod_JZGM_U

    Shrouded daggers is the best option since it hits multiple people and it can be used from range. Fits the hit and run playstyle.

    As far as your sustain comment, I completely disagree. More like God tier in the right setup.
  • Ohhgrizyyy
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Rending Slashes.

    Crushing Weapon and Shrouded Daggers are too expensive to sustain because stamsorcs have trashcan-tier sustain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kod_JZGM_U

    Cool. Now to prepare for next patch. What race do you think will be best for stam dps or at least stam sorc? For something to keep in mind I myself am not superrrr experienced in PvE so I probably wont be able to sustain like most players
    Playing on PS4 NA server and current characters are CP 750

    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magsorc PvP (outdated)
    Lvl 50 EP Wood Elf Nightblade (Currently my crafter)
    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magplar PvP (outdated healbot)
    Lvl 50 EP Redguard Stam DK PvE (updating)
    Lvl 50 EP Dark Elf Mag DK PvP

    All my builds are outdated...I quit for a year lmao

    PSN ID: SDL_Griz
  • Ohhgrizyyy
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Rending Slashes.

    Crushing Weapon and Shrouded Daggers are too expensive to sustain because stamsorcs have trashcan-tier sustain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kod_JZGM_U

    Shrouded daggers is the best option since it hits multiple people and it can be used from range. Fits the hit and run playstyle.

    As far as your sustain comment, I completely disagree. More like God tier in the right setup.

    I know most stam sorcs run stormfist specifically for the extra regen.
    Playing on PS4 NA server and current characters are CP 750

    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magsorc PvP (outdated)
    Lvl 50 EP Wood Elf Nightblade (Currently my crafter)
    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magplar PvP (outdated healbot)
    Lvl 50 EP Redguard Stam DK PvE (updating)
    Lvl 50 EP Dark Elf Mag DK PvP

    All my builds are outdated...I quit for a year lmao

    PSN ID: SDL_Griz
  • LittlePinkDot
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    Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
    tactx wrote: »
    Just get crushing weapon.

    I will at some point but I havent even leveled the character yet. I need a dedicated PvE dps toon as I'm mostly a PvP'er and they are the only ones that appeal to me right now. I have a stam dk that I'm bored of and dont really want to level a mag dps and farm mages guild when I'm gonna be making 2-3 necro's when they launch

    I bought this game mostly for pvp too. But I needed to make a pve character to farm gear. Ive discovered that making a healer is the best for farming pug dungeons. I practically get in right away. Trying to get in as a dps is painfully slow.
    And what a real nice bonus is that I discovered I can use my pve argonian templar as a pvp healer too! And you can buff your groups damage and stats. I got so much AP this midyear mayhem. Just gotta stay in a large group and try not to attract too much attention because wearing divines makes one squishy.
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
    Outside of crushing weapon is shrouded daggers or rending their best spammable?

    PVP or PVE or solo build? Crushing weapon isn't needed tbh.

  • Ohhgrizyyy
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    Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
    Outside of crushing weapon is shrouded daggers or rending their best spammable?

    PVP or PVE or solo build? Crushing weapon isn't needed tbh.

    PvE. Mostly for dailies, maybe some solo content and the occasional trial. Its more or less for dailies for monster helms, get my transmute crystals and to farm gear sets
    Playing on PS4 NA server and current characters are CP 750

    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magsorc PvP (outdated)
    Lvl 50 EP Wood Elf Nightblade (Currently my crafter)
    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magplar PvP (outdated healbot)
    Lvl 50 EP Redguard Stam DK PvE (updating)
    Lvl 50 EP Dark Elf Mag DK PvP

    All my builds are outdated...I quit for a year lmao

    PSN ID: SDL_Griz
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Rending Slashes.

    Crushing Weapon and Shrouded Daggers are too expensive to sustain because stamsorcs have trashcan-tier sustain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kod_JZGM_U

    Shrouded daggers is the best option since it hits multiple people and it can be used from range. Fits the hit and run playstyle.

    As far as your sustain comment, I completely disagree. More like God tier in the right setup.

    I know most stam sorcs run stormfist specifically for the extra regen.

    After reading more posts it looks like you’re talking about pve specifically. If that’s the case there’s a few options depending how well you Keep your rotation together. Typically if I’m playing pve on my stam sorc I have rending, caltrops, hurricane and my spammable for dps.
  • Ohhgrizyyy
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    Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Rending Slashes.

    Crushing Weapon and Shrouded Daggers are too expensive to sustain because stamsorcs have trashcan-tier sustain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kod_JZGM_U

    Shrouded daggers is the best option since it hits multiple people and it can be used from range. Fits the hit and run playstyle.

    As far as your sustain comment, I completely disagree. More like God tier in the right setup.

    I know most stam sorcs run stormfist specifically for the extra regen.

    After reading more posts it looks like you’re talking about pve specifically. If that’s the case there’s a few options depending how well you Keep your rotation together. Typically if I’m playing pve on my stam sorc I have rending, caltrops, hurricane and my spammable for dps.

    Yea I am speaking about PvE specifically. I need a toon to do dailies on, farm gear sets and possibly even do vMA on
    Playing on PS4 NA server and current characters are CP 750

    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magsorc PvP (outdated)
    Lvl 50 EP Wood Elf Nightblade (Currently my crafter)
    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magplar PvP (outdated healbot)
    Lvl 50 EP Redguard Stam DK PvE (updating)
    Lvl 50 EP Dark Elf Mag DK PvP

    All my builds are outdated...I quit for a year lmao

    PSN ID: SDL_Griz
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
    Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Rending Slashes.

    Crushing Weapon and Shrouded Daggers are too expensive to sustain because stamsorcs have trashcan-tier sustain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kod_JZGM_U

    Shrouded daggers is the best option since it hits multiple people and it can be used from range. Fits the hit and run playstyle.

    As far as your sustain comment, I completely disagree. More like God tier in the right setup.

    I know most stam sorcs run stormfist specifically for the extra regen.

    After reading more posts it looks like you’re talking about pve specifically. If that’s the case there’s a few options depending how well you Keep your rotation together. Typically if I’m playing pve on my stam sorc I have rending, caltrops, hurricane and my spammable for dps.

    Yea I am speaking about PvE specifically. I need a toon to do dailies on, farm gear sets and possibly even do vMA on

    Well stam sorc and magplar is the most fun for me in pve. I usually run high damage builds, low sustain. Werewolf is something to look into too in your stam sorc, they’re really good and don’t require much.

  • LiquidPony
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Rending Slashes.

    Crushing Weapon and Shrouded Daggers are too expensive to sustain because stamsorcs have trashcan-tier sustain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kod_JZGM_U

    Shrouded daggers is the best option since it hits multiple people and it can be used from range. Fits the hit and run playstyle.

    As far as your sustain comment, I completely disagree. More like God tier in the right setup.

    Disagree all you want, but in terms of PvE DPS (which is what OP asked about), Shrouded Daggers just isn't sustainable and stamsorcs have far and away the worst sustain of any stam spec.
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Rending Slashes.

    Crushing Weapon and Shrouded Daggers are too expensive to sustain because stamsorcs have trashcan-tier sustain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kod_JZGM_U

    Shrouded daggers is the best option since it hits multiple people and it can be used from range. Fits the hit and run playstyle.

    As far as your sustain comment, I completely disagree. More like God tier in the right setup.

    Disagree all you want, but in terms of PvE DPS (which is what OP asked about), Shrouded Daggers just isn't sustainable and stamsorcs have far and away the worst sustain of any stam spec.

    Stam sorc is the only class you can pull off less than 1000 regen in pvp and pve and still be viable because of dark deal. Stam DK is somewhat up there in terms up low sustain builds too. Sounds like an experience and resource management issue.

  • Neoauspex
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    Apply bleeds/get crushing weapon
  • zaria
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    Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
    tactx wrote: »
    Just get crushing weapon.

    I will at some point but I havent even leveled the character yet. I need a dedicated PvE dps toon as I'm mostly a PvP'er and they are the only ones that appeal to me right now. I have a stam dk that I'm bored of and dont really want to level a mag dps and farm mages guild when I'm gonna be making 2-3 necro's when they launch

    I bought this game mostly for pvp too. But I needed to make a pve character to farm gear. Ive discovered that making a healer is the best for farming pug dungeons. I practically get in right away. Trying to get in as a dps is painfully slow.
    And what a real nice bonus is that I discovered I can use my pve argonian templar as a pvp healer too! And you can buff your groups damage and stats. I got so much AP this midyear mayhem. Just gotta stay in a large group and try not to attract too much attention because wearing divines makes one squishy.
    I do not understand why anybody has an magic build without an healer setup even if you focus is DD.
    One fast dungeon access, second is fake healer, 3rd is zerging in PvP.
    No it don't need to be bis, just something who works decently enough as in healing staff of the destro staff set.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Ohhgrizyyy
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Rending Slashes.

    Crushing Weapon and Shrouded Daggers are too expensive to sustain because stamsorcs have trashcan-tier sustain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kod_JZGM_U

    Shrouded daggers is the best option since it hits multiple people and it can be used from range. Fits the hit and run playstyle.

    As far as your sustain comment, I completely disagree. More like God tier in the right setup.

    Disagree all you want, but in terms of PvE DPS (which is what OP asked about), Shrouded Daggers just isn't sustainable and stamsorcs have far and away the worst sustain of any stam spec.

    Stam sorc is the only class you can pull off less than 1000 regen in pvp and pve and still be viable because of dark deal. Stam DK is somewhat up there in terms up low sustain builds too. Sounds like an experience and resource management issue.

    What stam sorc runs dark deal in a trial.
    Playing on PS4 NA server and current characters are CP 750

    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magsorc PvP (outdated)
    Lvl 50 EP Wood Elf Nightblade (Currently my crafter)
    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magplar PvP (outdated healbot)
    Lvl 50 EP Redguard Stam DK PvE (updating)
    Lvl 50 EP Dark Elf Mag DK PvP

    All my builds are outdated...I quit for a year lmao

    PSN ID: SDL_Griz
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
    LiquidPony wrote: »
    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Rending Slashes.

    Crushing Weapon and Shrouded Daggers are too expensive to sustain because stamsorcs have trashcan-tier sustain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kod_JZGM_U

    Shrouded daggers is the best option since it hits multiple people and it can be used from range. Fits the hit and run playstyle.

    As far as your sustain comment, I completely disagree. More like God tier in the right setup.

    Disagree all you want, but in terms of PvE DPS (which is what OP asked about), Shrouded Daggers just isn't sustainable and stamsorcs have far and away the worst sustain of any stam spec.

    Stam sorc is the only class you can pull off less than 1000 regen in pvp and pve and still be viable because of dark deal. Stam DK is somewhat up there in terms up low sustain builds too. Sounds like an experience and resource management issue.

    What stam sorc runs dark deal in a trial.

    I was talking about normal content. That’ll just add to my point because it should be even easier to sustain on any class in a trial. Pve sustain is pretty simple in general but I understand there’s some people that struggle in that area. As a pvp player it comes much easier to me, especially since I mostly play no cp.

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    Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
    LiquidPony wrote: »
    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Rending Slashes.

    Crushing Weapon and Shrouded Daggers are too expensive to sustain because stamsorcs have trashcan-tier sustain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kod_JZGM_U

    Shrouded daggers is the best option since it hits multiple people and it can be used from range. Fits the hit and run playstyle.

    As far as your sustain comment, I completely disagree. More like God tier in the right setup.

    Disagree all you want, but in terms of PvE DPS (which is what OP asked about), Shrouded Daggers just isn't sustainable and stamsorcs have far and away the worst sustain of any stam spec.

    Stam sorc is the only class you can pull off less than 1000 regen in pvp and pve and still be viable because of dark deal. Stam DK is somewhat up there in terms up low sustain builds too. Sounds like an experience and resource management issue.

    What stam sorc runs dark deal in a trial.

    I was talking about normal content. That’ll just add to my point because it should be even easier to sustain on any class in a trial. Pve sustain is pretty simple in general but I understand there’s some people that struggle in that area. As a pvp player it comes much easier to me, especially since I mostly play no cp.
    In easier content, VO is an spin to win, my favorite set of all.
    its a bit ironic that an trial set works extremely well on trash but is pretty hopeless burning hard bosses without adds.

    Now an interesting part is that in the new meta is that Khajiit and Dunmer probably want other gear than the pure stamina races because low sustain, this is also true for magic.
    Using gear to argument race is an good design.

    And dark deal is legitimate as an crutch if healer don't give enough resources.
    HA on DW is also pretty fast if clipping it (some do this by macro)
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
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    Hurricane and spin to win all you need
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  • LittlePinkDot
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    zaria wrote: »
    Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
    tactx wrote: »
    Just get crushing weapon.

    I will at some point but I havent even leveled the character yet. I need a dedicated PvE dps toon as I'm mostly a PvP'er and they are the only ones that appeal to me right now. I have a stam dk that I'm bored of and dont really want to level a mag dps and farm mages guild when I'm gonna be making 2-3 necro's when they launch

    I bought this game mostly for pvp too. But I needed to make a pve character to farm gear. Ive discovered that making a healer is the best for farming pug dungeons. I practically get in right away. Trying to get in as a dps is painfully slow.
    And what a real nice bonus is that I discovered I can use my pve argonian templar as a pvp healer too! And you can buff your groups damage and stats. I got so much AP this midyear mayhem. Just gotta stay in a large group and try not to attract too much attention because wearing divines makes one squishy.
    I do not understand why anybody has an magic build without an healer setup even if you focus is DD.
    One fast dungeon access, second is fake healer, 3rd is zerging in PvP.
    No it don't need to be bis, just something who works decently enough as in healing staff of the destro staff set.

    Yes I agree. But I learned this fact too late. I couldve saved myself months of effort if I had made a mag healer first.
  • Ohhgrizyyy
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    zaria wrote: »
    Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »
    LiquidPony wrote: »
    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Rending Slashes.

    Crushing Weapon and Shrouded Daggers are too expensive to sustain because stamsorcs have trashcan-tier sustain.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kod_JZGM_U

    Shrouded daggers is the best option since it hits multiple people and it can be used from range. Fits the hit and run playstyle.

    As far as your sustain comment, I completely disagree. More like God tier in the right setup.

    Disagree all you want, but in terms of PvE DPS (which is what OP asked about), Shrouded Daggers just isn't sustainable and stamsorcs have far and away the worst sustain of any stam spec.

    Stam sorc is the only class you can pull off less than 1000 regen in pvp and pve and still be viable because of dark deal. Stam DK is somewhat up there in terms up low sustain builds too. Sounds like an experience and resource management issue.

    What stam sorc runs dark deal in a trial.

    I was talking about normal content. That’ll just add to my point because it should be even easier to sustain on any class in a trial. Pve sustain is pretty simple in general but I understand there’s some people that struggle in that area. As a pvp player it comes much easier to me, especially since I mostly play no cp.
    In easier content, VO is an spin to win, my favorite set of all.
    its a bit ironic that an trial set works extremely well on trash but is pretty hopeless burning hard bosses without adds.

    Now an interesting part is that in the new meta is that Khajiit and Dunmer probably want other gear than the pure stamina races because low sustain, this is also true for magic.
    Using gear to argument race is an good design.

    And dark deal is legitimate as an crutch if healer don't give enough resources.
    HA on DW is also pretty fast if clipping it (some do this by macro)

    How do you "clip" it? I'm on console. I'm assuming you just mean animation cancelling
    Playing on PS4 NA server and current characters are CP 750

    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magsorc PvP (outdated)
    Lvl 50 EP Wood Elf Nightblade (Currently my crafter)
    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magplar PvP (outdated healbot)
    Lvl 50 EP Redguard Stam DK PvE (updating)
    Lvl 50 EP Dark Elf Mag DK PvP

    All my builds are outdated...I quit for a year lmao

    PSN ID: SDL_Griz
  • Ohhgrizyyy
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    Also is it true VO is probably your best stamina set for vMA?
    Playing on PS4 NA server and current characters are CP 750

    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magsorc PvP (outdated)
    Lvl 50 EP Wood Elf Nightblade (Currently my crafter)
    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magplar PvP (outdated healbot)
    Lvl 50 EP Redguard Stam DK PvE (updating)
    Lvl 50 EP Dark Elf Mag DK PvP

    All my builds are outdated...I quit for a year lmao

    PSN ID: SDL_Griz
  • The_Lex
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    If you don't want crushing weapon, then you can get by with just rending slashes and/or shrouded daggers. Dark deal is a great sustain booster, and contrary to opinion, I've seen it used in trials.

    But, an important part of learning a pve class is how to manage sustain and to develop a sustainable rotation. The best rotation is the one you develop on your own - one that gives you the highest sustainable dps. A copy/paste set up and rotation from YouTube or a website, while very good, may not be right for your playstyle or experience level.

    Edited by The_Lex on January 21, 2019 2:17PM
  • Ohhgrizyyy
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    The_Lex wrote: »
    If you don't want crushing weapon, then you can get by with just rending slashes and/or shrouded daggers. Dark deal is a great sustain booster, and contrary to opinion, I've seen it used in trials. But, an important part of learning a pve class is how to manage sustain and develop a sustainable rotation. The best rotation is the one you develop on your own - one that gives you the highest sustainable dps. A copy/paste set up and rotation from YouTube or a website, while very good, may not be right for your playstyle or experience level.

    I will get crushing weapon at some point. Want to make sure I enjoy the class first before I farm it. Its been a long damn time since I played a stam sorc. Pretty sure last time I played stam sorc was when flurry was the meta spammable xD. I just returned to ESO late December after quitting last January and have yet to even see how to level psyjic order.
    Playing on PS4 NA server and current characters are CP 750

    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magsorc PvP (outdated)
    Lvl 50 EP Wood Elf Nightblade (Currently my crafter)
    Lvl 50 EP High Elf Magplar PvP (outdated healbot)
    Lvl 50 EP Redguard Stam DK PvE (updating)
    Lvl 50 EP Dark Elf Mag DK PvP

    All my builds are outdated...I quit for a year lmao

    PSN ID: SDL_Griz
  • Harrdarrzarr
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    If the racial changes go live as they are now, shrouded daggers will be easier to sustain than it is now because it is a weapon ability.
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    buff stam sorc
  • FrancisCrawford
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    If the racial changes go live as they are now, shrouded daggers will be easier to sustain than it is now because it is a weapon ability.

    Assuming Redguard.
  • Harrdarrzarr
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    If the racial changes go live as they are now, shrouded daggers will be easier to sustain than it is now because it is a weapon ability.

    Assuming Redguard.

    yes, forgot to mention that:)
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