ArgonianAustin wrote: »The other races in my opinion got cool and different changes. Argonians got nothing added just nerfs.
BrianLovesLisa wrote: »ArgonianAustin wrote: »The other races in my opinion got cool and different changes. Argonians got nothing added just nerfs.
About time those lousy lizards got put in their place
remove argonian racials completly
BrianLovesLisa wrote: »ArgonianAustin wrote: »The other races in my opinion got cool and different changes. Argonians got nothing added just nerfs.
About time those lousy lizards got put in their place
dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »I'd like to see the bonus stamina as well. I find it interesting that they carved away some of the tank elements of the race but kept the healing aspects. The problem with this is that they are clearly an inferior healer now to Bretons and Altmers. I still like the race though and I still think they're good jack of all trade types.
It was going to be a moderate nerf regardless, as (dev comment), "Previously Argonians offered far too many stats and they were mathematically twice as good as some races."
Adding stamina would contradict that, and base stamina wasn't part of the old passives either. It might be harder after Update 21 to swap into damage dealer, but I feel the ability to choose between healing or tanking is retained without perhaps having the resources to do both.
It was going to be a moderate nerf regardless, as (dev comment), "Previously Argonians offered far too many stats and they were mathematically twice as good as some races."
Adding stamina would contradict that, and base stamina wasn't part of the old passives either. It might be harder after Update 21 to swap into damage dealer, but I feel the ability to choose between healing or tanking is retained without perhaps having the resources to do both.
Stamina wasn't a part of Altmer either but ZOS decided to give them Stamina return for SOME odd reason. Dunmer got Weapon Damage added to them, despite only having a Magic buff passive before. FFS Khajiit got magic buffs out the wazoo, despite them being a purely Stamina race before. The statement that "Argonians offered far too many stats" is a crock when I look at some of these passives and considering that 1) We lost poison status immunity 2) Our self healing has been cut by 60% and 3) Our Potion passive has been nerfed, asking for a Stamina buff or ANY buff to our damage is hardly unreasonable considering that our use in support roles have been reduced drastically.
Make Resourceful give 1000 Magic OR Stamina, depending on which is higher, with the potion passive being changed from a Tri-Stat restore to a slightly stronger Bi-Stat, with emphasis again being on the higher resource+Health and since we no longer have a Tri-Stat restore effect, you can now also put a slight damage buff on Life Mender, adding 100 Weapon and/or Spell Damage so that our damage is now slightly higher, which also helps offset the huge nerf to our self healing without it being grossly OP or UP.
It's not a huge change but it would, at least, open up Argonian to be more viable as DPS. It's all I ask.
Kidgangster101 wrote: »1) You guys lost poison but gained disease (which is amazing with your healing capabilities)
2) you guys got a slap on the wrist for your potion passive (it seems like everyone in pvp was argonian that tells you right there that they were out of hand especially with sets that give even more stata when you drink a potion)
3) you guys got 1k max magic right? That is a buff from your 3% you guys had so there is your resource you gain
Argonians seem to fit the magic role really great.
1. Wrong, argonians (just like bosmers) have both poison & disease resistance on live server.Kidgangster101 wrote: »1) You guys lost poison but gained disease (which is amazing with your healing capabilities)
2) you guys got a slap on the wrist for your potion passive (it seems like everyone in pvp was argonian that tells you right there that they were out of hand especially with sets that give even more stata when you drink a potion)
3) you guys got 1k max magic right? That is a buff from your 3% you guys had so there is your resource you gain
Argonians seem to fit the magic role really great.
I kinda like mentality of people who don't want their races to be better. They only want all other races to be worse. I say - leave argonians like they are and slightly buff others.
That will improve quality of life for everyone.
Kidgangster101 wrote: »1) You guys lost poison but gained disease (which is amazing with your healing capabilities)
2) you guys got a slap on the wrist for your potion passive (it seems like everyone in pvp was argonian that tells you right there that they were out of hand especially with sets that give even more stata when you drink a potion)
3) you guys got 1k max magic right? That is a buff from your 3% you guys had so there is your resource you gain
Argonians seem to fit the magic role really great.