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Bought a race change and its bogus!

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So bought a race change and come to find out its very very limited. Decided I wanted to keep my main class but change to a Khajit. Well its not allowed because I was a Dark Elf. So now im stuck with this race change token and cant even change it to race I want. No disclaimer really. But this sucks would like my tokens back.
  • DPShiro
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    Sounds like a learn 2 read issue.
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  • StormChaser3000
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    You need any race any alliance upgrade.

    I wonder what will happen when they give us free tokens. Will we be limited to our alliance?
  • MartiniDaniels
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    DPShiro wrote: »
    Sounds like a learn 2 read issue.

    Nope, this is an invitation to buy "any race, any alliance" :D
  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    DPShiro wrote: »
    Sounds like a learn 2 read issue.

    Nope, this is an invitation to buy "any race, any alliance" :D

    Thank god I have that
  • DeathStalker
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    So bought a race change and come to find out its very very limited. Decided I wanted to keep my main class but change to a Khajit. Well its not allowed because I was a Dark Elf. So now im stuck with this race change token and cant even change it to race I want. No disclaimer really. But this sucks would like my tokens back.

    Buy "any race, any alliance" and then pick the race you want.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Honestly saying this is another rip-off.. given that people will want to change from dunmer to other magicka race, they ALL will be forced to buy "any race any alliance" after already buying racial change token ><
  • burglar
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    You need any race any alliance upgrade.

    I wonder what will happen when they give us free tokens. Will we be limited to our alliance?

    Did ZOS say they were going to hand out race/name change tokens? :open_mouth:
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  • AppleJuiceBox2
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    IDK am I alone when I think race change means any race?
  • neverwalk
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    Dark elf is EP and Khajiit is AD, maybe this is why? Upgrade in Crown store allows- Any race, any Alliance
    Edited by neverwalk on January 17, 2019 3:46PM
  • StormChaser3000
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    You need any race any alliance upgrade.

    I wonder what will happen when they give us free tokens. Will we be limited to our alliance?

    Did ZOS say they were going to hand out race/name change tokens? :open_mouth:

    They said they are going to give 1 free race change token later.
    But I'm worried that most of us will face the same BS as OP.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    You need any race any alliance upgrade.

    I wonder what will happen when they give us free tokens. Will we be limited to our alliance?

    Nope, if you are mDK then simply switch to allied nord DK tank which will be excellent after changes. 15% dps became tanks, all problems with queue solved!
  • desciviib14_ESO
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    I can't believe there are players that are still Alliance limited. You are just as limited now as you were when you made the original toon.
    There is nothing here of interest to any nations; as a matter of fact, there is nothing here but people.
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    Yeah i purchased in store and can't make the change.
  • Jameliel
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    It's a scam, it's a scheme, let's call it what it is, no in between.
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    Honestly saying this is another rip-off.. given that people will want to change from dunmer to other magicka race, they ALL will be forced to buy "any race any alliance" after already buying racial change token ><
    Good point.
    However they probably not tough it so far.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
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    You need any race any alliance upgrade.

    I wonder what will happen when they give us free tokens. Will we be limited to our alliance?

    Nope, if you are mDK then simply switch to allied nord DK tank which will be excellent after changes. 15% dps became tanks, all problems with queue solved!

    The change I plan to do involves switching EP to AD, so unless that token allows that, I'll have to buy that upgrade and this fact doesn't make me happy.
  • DPShiro
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    I bought a pc game, and it won’t work on my Mac setup, I feel scammed, I should have gotten the pc included too
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    DPShiro wrote: »
    I bought a pc game, and it won’t work on my Mac setup, I feel scammed, I should have gotten the pc included too

    This comment is stupid. But when someone buys a race change token they anticipate it being any race.
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    Any race any alliance needs to get the axe. Makes no sense since One Tamriel. Just get rid of it already.
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    You need any race any alliance upgrade.

    I wonder what will happen when they give us free tokens. Will we be limited to our alliance?

    Nope, if you are mDK then simply switch to allied nord DK tank which will be excellent after changes. 15% dps became tanks, all problems with queue solved!

    The change I plan to do involves switching EP to AD, so unless that token allows that, I'll have to buy that upgrade and this fact doesn't make me happy.
    Note that changing race to Altmer or Khajiit will not move you to AD faction. You will stay pact. the any race any aliance simply let you use other than your faction races.
    So you can not use it to join pvp guilds, you have to create an new character for this, is in this setting myself.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Leogon
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    Honestly saying this is another rip-off.. given that people will want to change from dunmer to other magicka race, they ALL will be forced to buy "any race any alliance" after already buying racial change token ><
    And a name change as well if the name doesn't fit the race anymore. Imagine changing an Argonian named Eats-In-Dumpsters to an Altmer.
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    Evergnar wrote: »
    Any race any alliance needs to get the axe. Makes no sense since One Tamriel. Just get rid of it already.

    It's money to Zo$. And by this thread I think after the racial nerfs were revealed today it is working as intended.
    Edited by Girl_Number8 on January 17, 2019 4:18PM
  • DPShiro
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    DPShiro wrote: »
    I bought a pc game, and it won’t work on my Mac setup, I feel scammed, I should have gotten the pc included too

    This comment is stupid. But when someone buys a race change token they anticipate it being any race.

    ZoS may be at fault and deserve blame for a lot of things.
    Not being able to read and people “assuming” things is not one of them.
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    DPShiro wrote: »
    DPShiro wrote: »
    I bought a pc game, and it won’t work on my Mac setup, I feel scammed, I should have gotten the pc included too

    This comment is stupid. But when someone buys a race change token they anticipate it being any race.

    ZoS may be at fault and deserve blame for a lot of things.
    Not being able to read and people “assuming” things is not one of them.

    This is the Crown Store description for Race Change Token. It's very vague, ZOS should expect some negative feedback when people realize the limitation - because it is not clearly stated.

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    If the "free" race change has the same limitations for players without the Adventurer Pack, they need to clarify that right now - because it's going to be ugly.
    Edited by anadandy on January 17, 2019 4:39PM
  • desciviib14_ESO
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    Yeah, It ought to include something like 'Alliance Restrictions may apply'
    Edited by desciviib14_ESO on January 17, 2019 4:41PM
    There is nothing here of interest to any nations; as a matter of fact, there is nothing here but people.
  • StormChaser3000
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    zaria wrote: »
    You need any race any alliance upgrade.

    I wonder what will happen when they give us free tokens. Will we be limited to our alliance?

    Nope, if you are mDK then simply switch to allied nord DK tank which will be excellent after changes. 15% dps became tanks, all problems with queue solved!

    The change I plan to do involves switching EP to AD, so unless that token allows that, I'll have to buy that upgrade and this fact doesn't make me happy.
    Note that changing race to Altmer or Khajiit will not move you to AD faction. You will stay pact. the any race any aliance simply let you use other than your faction races.
    So you can not use it to join pvp guilds, you have to create an new character for this, is in this setting myself.

    Whaaat?? That's lame. Those tokens are even more functionally limited than I thought.
    Thank you for the info. I didn't know that.

    My dear AD, forgive me in advance for sniping you in the future :( I'll try to specialize on DC as much as possible tho, I swear :(
  • Juju_beans
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    So bought a race change and come to find out its very very limited. Decided I wanted to keep my main class but change to a Khajit. Well its not allowed because I was a Dark Elf. So now im stuck with this race change token and cant even change it to race I want. No disclaimer really. But this sucks would like my tokens back.

    But if you don't have any race, any alliance then you are limited and were always limited.

    I'm a fairly new player and I knew that you can only change race within your faction.

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    Evergnar wrote: »
    Any race any alliance needs to get the axe. Makes no sense since One Tamriel. Just get rid of it already.

    It didn't make much sense before One Tamriel honestly. You can see NPCs of all races in all 3 alliances and it's relatively rare that anyone comments on it (there are some quests where it comes up, but more often than not they're treated like anyone else).

    As I remember it this was a late addition by ZOS - during the early betas there was no way to pick a race which didn't match your alliance and then when pre-orders become available ZOS announced that pre-purchase copies of the game would include Any Race in Any Alliance.

    My best guess is that ZOS thought the Alliance War would be a major feature of the game for most players and they'd take it, and the lore behind it, seriously and want their race to match their Alliance. Whereas I suspect in reality dedicated PvPers first priority is having the best race for their build, regardless of the team colour they picked and people who are interested in the lore want the freedom to create and play any kind of character they want, with any backstory they want, including an 'outsider'.

    (I could also believe they planned to sell it from the beginning, but that would involve believing they always planned to make the game buy-to-play and introduce the crown store and telling early adopters a subscription was the best system for the game they wanted to make and it would always get you access to everything in the game was a flat-out lie.)
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  • valeriiya
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @Gilliamtherogue can you guys confirm if this race change is alliance limited?
  • zaria
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    zaria wrote: »
    You need any race any alliance upgrade.

    I wonder what will happen when they give us free tokens. Will we be limited to our alliance?

    Nope, if you are mDK then simply switch to allied nord DK tank which will be excellent after changes. 15% dps became tanks, all problems with queue solved!

    The change I plan to do involves switching EP to AD, so unless that token allows that, I'll have to buy that upgrade and this fact doesn't make me happy.
    Note that changing race to Altmer or Khajiit will not move you to AD faction. You will stay pact. the any race any aliance simply let you use other than your faction races.
    So you can not use it to join pvp guilds, you have to create an new character for this, is in this setting myself.

    Whaaat?? That's lame. Those tokens are even more functionally limited than I thought.
    Thank you for the info. I didn't know that.

    My dear AD, forgive me in advance for sniping you in the future :( I'll try to specialize on DC as much as possible tho, I swear :(
    An alliance change would be horrible if you was in an good PvP guild however.
    Having it as an separate item in crown store on the other hand had been nice especially for players who has an old character and just getting into pvp by a guild. And something who should be an crone store item to limit jumping.

    And don't commit an race change yet. First it will be changes, probably not much, but as I read here, Dummer might get an buff, Redguards might get an small nerf. else it can be some minor adjustments but we never know with ZoS.
    Just as important its not live yet and will not be for an month or more.

    And yes Argonian and Khajiit can confuse a bit, was killed by blue Khajiit twice, once during the event then I saw an Khajiit and ignored him so he burned me. Long ago did town quests and saw an friendly tail and ran over, he probably thought I was attacking to killed me :)
    Argonian are even better because their tail is more visible.
    Edited by zaria on January 17, 2019 5:34PM
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
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