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*** loadingscreens

  • twev
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    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    To best get results keep information in one thread and give details about the event. What time was this happening? What system was this happening? Things like that will help you get closer to results you like.

    With respect, people have been making threads and tickets for years now detailing everything. Nothing ever gets done.

    I can understand your anguish, but I speak from first hand knowledge as a former class rep, these issues do get looked at and have improved over years, but there's a lot of variables that could be happening per individual.

    What kind of system are you using?

    What kind of content is this happening in?

    What time are you playing?

    What settings are you using?

    What add-ons do you have on?

    Windows 10 PC

    Happening in all content, loading into dungeons, delves, cyrodiil, battle grounds, even loading screens for no reason while just running around.

    Settings in game? Not sure would have to look, I have a pretty high end system and fast internet. I think I have the graphics settings quite high.

    I use skyshards, lore books and the most popular treasure map add on. Oh and MM for trading.

    How long are your load screens? Try without add-on to eliminate unseen variables. Might try repairing install just in case. Also turn settings down just to see if that changes anything.

    They can last from 5 mins to 10-15 mins, or sometimes i will leave them for as long as it takes and they never resolve and i am forced to close the game. I'll try without add ons, but honestly I had these never ending loading screens before i used to use add ons.

    I think something strange is happening. I know it's a long process, but might also want to try a fresh install.

    Are you based in states?

    Do you exceed or meet system requirements?

    What kind of graphics card do you have?

    Try changing it's performance for pure performance.

    Something strange is happening for sure. You think it might actually be the game that is broke?

    I am in the UK, EU server. Graphics card is GF 1060 6 gig ram

    I will try changing the settings lower, but I think a fresh install would be too much.

    Thanks.

    Keep in mind that the game is more dependent on the CPU power of the first core than it is on GPU power once the minimums are met.
    That is to say:
    A bigger/better GPU won't make the game run/dispay much better because the game is CPU dependent.
    And the CPU dependence is coded poorly as well.
    The game is poorly optimized, and successive DLCs haven't always integrated well with previously existing code, and isn't in any way burdened with working with any of the add-ons that the base game 'encourages' (by leaving so much stuff out).

    Add to that - a lot of problems are network issues between your client and the main servers. Communications aren't handled with great efficiency, and latency issues abound.
    What I find galling is having a 100 ping, and lag-bubbles or loading screens popping up over and over.
    I can frequently come out of a wayshrine into several small loading screens while trying to take my first several steps (it happens in Skywatch ALL the time).

    Or entering a wayshrine with groupmates, but exiting the wayshrine to see them '100 yards' ahead of me galloping away.

    This isn't a killer rig - but it's plenty good enough as far as ZOS demands:
    I'm running an i5 6500 CPU, an nVidia 1080, Win7/64 on an M2 drive with the game on another SSD, 16 gig of ram, and I have a 300Mbps fiber connection.
    I'm outside Wash DC.
    My CPU isn't the fastest i7 OC'd unit, but it is way over game requirement.

    Sometimes the game is unplayable due to lag and loading screens.
    Cyrodill is usually a slideshow.
    So are many delves on too many occasions.
    The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.
  • Neoealth
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    twev wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    To best get results keep information in one thread and give details about the event. What time was this happening? What system was this happening? Things like that will help you get closer to results you like.

    With respect, people have been making threads and tickets for years now detailing everything. Nothing ever gets done.

    I can understand your anguish, but I speak from first hand knowledge as a former class rep, these issues do get looked at and have improved over years, but there's a lot of variables that could be happening per individual.

    What kind of system are you using?

    What kind of content is this happening in?

    What time are you playing?

    What settings are you using?

    What add-ons do you have on?

    Windows 10 PC

    Happening in all content, loading into dungeons, delves, cyrodiil, battle grounds, even loading screens for no reason while just running around.

    Settings in game? Not sure would have to look, I have a pretty high end system and fast internet. I think I have the graphics settings quite high.

    I use skyshards, lore books and the most popular treasure map add on. Oh and MM for trading.

    How long are your load screens? Try without add-on to eliminate unseen variables. Might try repairing install just in case. Also turn settings down just to see if that changes anything.

    They can last from 5 mins to 10-15 mins, or sometimes i will leave them for as long as it takes and they never resolve and i am forced to close the game. I'll try without add ons, but honestly I had these never ending loading screens before i used to use add ons.

    I think something strange is happening. I know it's a long process, but might also want to try a fresh install.

    Are you based in states?

    Do you exceed or meet system requirements?

    What kind of graphics card do you have?

    Try changing it's performance for pure performance.

    Something strange is happening for sure. You think it might actually be the game that is broke?

    I am in the UK, EU server. Graphics card is GF 1060 6 gig ram

    I will try changing the settings lower, but I think a fresh install would be too much.

    Thanks.

    Keep in mind that the game is more dependent on the CPU power of the first core than it is on GPU power once the minimums are met.
    That is to say:
    A bigger/better GPU won't make the game run/dispay much better because the game is CPU dependent.
    And the CPU dependence is coded poorly as well.
    The game is poorly optimized, and successive DLCs haven't always integrated well with previously existing code, and isn't in any way burdened with working with any of the add-ons that the base game 'encourages' (by leaving so much stuff out).

    Add to that - a lot of problems are network issues between your client and the main servers. Communications aren't handled with great efficiency, and latency issues abound.
    What I find galling is having a 100 ping, and lag-bubbles or loading screens popping up over and over.
    I can frequently come out of a wayshrine into several small loading screens while trying to take my first several steps (it happens in Skywatch ALL the time).

    Or entering a wayshrine with groupmates, but exiting the wayshrine to see them '100 yards' ahead of me galloping away.

    This isn't a killer rig - but it's plenty good enough as far as ZOS demands:
    I'm running an i5 6500 CPU, an nVidia 1080, Win7/64 on an M2 drive with the game on another SSD, 16 gig of ram, and I have a 300Mbps fiber connection.
    I'm outside Wash DC.
    My CPU isn't the fastest i7 OC'd unit, but it is way over game requirement.

    Sometimes the game is unplayable due to lag and loading screens.
    Cyrodill is usually a slideshow.
    So are many delves on too many occasions.

    Yeah I've heard the game is more reliant on cpu rather than gpu, i was just answering his question. Pretty much agree with everything you said.

    My cpu is a i5 6600. Must be something ZOS can do, can't they upgrade their servers? Fox the code? I don't know. I can't see how it can remain the same without them losing players.

  • twev
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    Neoealth wrote: »

    Yeah I've heard the game is more reliant on cpu rather than gpu, i was just answering his question. Pretty much agree with everything you said.

    My cpu is a i5 6600. Must be something ZOS can do, can't they upgrade their servers? Fox the code? I don't know. I can't see how it can remain the same without them losing players.

    At this point I assume they're more dependent on new players who:
    1. Buy the game
    2. Buy a few crown store items
    3. Maybe subscribe for a few months
    Than they care about vet players who:
    1. Bought the game a while ago
    2. Already bought max inv/banking
    3. Bought more crown items than they need anymore
    4. Maybe started slipping on subscriptions

    At some point - game companies with 'older, less fresh, games' start to depend on the churn of new money than they care about keeping vets who have already spent their money and now just play.

    Thats why they constantly develop new DLCs to release/sell, rather than fix older/bad code.
    The DLCs sell NOW, it takes a while for new players to see the old/existing/broken code, and by then - they've already bought the game and spent money in the crown store.

    Thats one reason for harsh responses to vet players who voice disappointment of broken code that makes them less happy to continue playing.
    Vet players are expected to just quietly quit the game and move on.




    Edited by twev on January 13, 2019 4:02PM
    The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.
  • Tasear
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    Neoealth wrote: »
    twev wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    To best get results keep information in one thread and give details about the event. What time was this happening? What system was this happening? Things like that will help you get closer to results you like.

    With respect, people have been making threads and tickets for years now detailing everything. Nothing ever gets done.

    I can understand your anguish, but I speak from first hand knowledge as a former class rep, these issues do get looked at and have improved over years, but there's a lot of variables that could be happening per individual.

    What kind of system are you using?

    What kind of content is this happening in?

    What time are you playing?

    What settings are you using?

    What add-ons do you have on?

    Windows 10 PC

    Happening in all content, loading into dungeons, delves, cyrodiil, battle grounds, even loading screens for no reason while just running around.

    Settings in game? Not sure would have to look, I have a pretty high end system and fast internet. I think I have the graphics settings quite high.

    I use skyshards, lore books and the most popular treasure map add on. Oh and MM for trading.

    How long are your load screens? Try without add-on to eliminate unseen variables. Might try repairing install just in case. Also turn settings down just to see if that changes anything.

    They can last from 5 mins to 10-15 mins, or sometimes i will leave them for as long as it takes and they never resolve and i am forced to close the game. I'll try without add ons, but honestly I had these never ending loading screens before i used to use add ons.

    I think something strange is happening. I know it's a long process, but might also want to try a fresh install.

    Are you based in states?

    Do you exceed or meet system requirements?

    What kind of graphics card do you have?

    Try changing it's performance for pure performance.

    Something strange is happening for sure. You think it might actually be the game that is broke?

    I am in the UK, EU server. Graphics card is GF 1060 6 gig ram

    I will try changing the settings lower, but I think a fresh install would be too much.

    Thanks.

    Keep in mind that the game is more dependent on the CPU power of the first core than it is on GPU power once the minimums are met.
    That is to say:
    A bigger/better GPU won't make the game run/dispay much better because the game is CPU dependent.
    And the CPU dependence is coded poorly as well.
    The game is poorly optimized, and successive DLCs haven't always integrated well with previously existing code, and isn't in any way burdened with working with any of the add-ons that the base game 'encourages' (by leaving so much stuff out).

    Add to that - a lot of problems are network issues between your client and the main servers. Communications aren't handled with great efficiency, and latency issues abound.
    What I find galling is having a 100 ping, and lag-bubbles or loading screens popping up over and over.
    I can frequently come out of a wayshrine into several small loading screens while trying to take my first several steps (it happens in Skywatch ALL the time).

    Or entering a wayshrine with groupmates, but exiting the wayshrine to see them '100 yards' ahead of me galloping away.

    This isn't a killer rig - but it's plenty good enough as far as ZOS demands:
    I'm running an i5 6500 CPU, an nVidia 1080, Win7/64 on an M2 drive with the game on another SSD, 16 gig of ram, and I have a 300Mbps fiber connection.
    I'm outside Wash DC.
    My CPU isn't the fastest i7 OC'd unit, but it is way over game requirement.

    Sometimes the game is unplayable due to lag and loading screens.
    Cyrodill is usually a slideshow.
    So are many delves on too many occasions.

    Yeah I've heard the game is more reliant on cpu rather than gpu, i was just answering his question. Pretty much agree with everything you said.

    My cpu is a i5 6600. Must be something ZOS can do, can't they upgrade their servers? Fox the code? I don't know. I can't see how it can remain the same without them losing players.

    If the issue isn't as widespread, then you should consider looking inward.
  • Neoealth
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    twev wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    To best get results keep information in one thread and give details about the event. What time was this happening? What system was this happening? Things like that will help you get closer to results you like.

    With respect, people have been making threads and tickets for years now detailing everything. Nothing ever gets done.

    I can understand your anguish, but I speak from first hand knowledge as a former class rep, these issues do get looked at and have improved over years, but there's a lot of variables that could be happening per individual.

    What kind of system are you using?

    What kind of content is this happening in?

    What time are you playing?

    What settings are you using?

    What add-ons do you have on?

    Windows 10 PC

    Happening in all content, loading into dungeons, delves, cyrodiil, battle grounds, even loading screens for no reason while just running around.

    Settings in game? Not sure would have to look, I have a pretty high end system and fast internet. I think I have the graphics settings quite high.

    I use skyshards, lore books and the most popular treasure map add on. Oh and MM for trading.

    How long are your load screens? Try without add-on to eliminate unseen variables. Might try repairing install just in case. Also turn settings down just to see if that changes anything.

    They can last from 5 mins to 10-15 mins, or sometimes i will leave them for as long as it takes and they never resolve and i am forced to close the game. I'll try without add ons, but honestly I had these never ending loading screens before i used to use add ons.

    I think something strange is happening. I know it's a long process, but might also want to try a fresh install.

    Are you based in states?

    Do you exceed or meet system requirements?

    What kind of graphics card do you have?

    Try changing it's performance for pure performance.

    Something strange is happening for sure. You think it might actually be the game that is broke?

    I am in the UK, EU server. Graphics card is GF 1060 6 gig ram

    I will try changing the settings lower, but I think a fresh install would be too much.

    Thanks.

    Keep in mind that the game is more dependent on the CPU power of the first core than it is on GPU power once the minimums are met.
    That is to say:
    A bigger/better GPU won't make the game run/dispay much better because the game is CPU dependent.
    And the CPU dependence is coded poorly as well.
    The game is poorly optimized, and successive DLCs haven't always integrated well with previously existing code, and isn't in any way burdened with working with any of the add-ons that the base game 'encourages' (by leaving so much stuff out).

    Add to that - a lot of problems are network issues between your client and the main servers. Communications aren't handled with great efficiency, and latency issues abound.
    What I find galling is having a 100 ping, and lag-bubbles or loading screens popping up over and over.
    I can frequently come out of a wayshrine into several small loading screens while trying to take my first several steps (it happens in Skywatch ALL the time).

    Or entering a wayshrine with groupmates, but exiting the wayshrine to see them '100 yards' ahead of me galloping away.

    This isn't a killer rig - but it's plenty good enough as far as ZOS demands:
    I'm running an i5 6500 CPU, an nVidia 1080, Win7/64 on an M2 drive with the game on another SSD, 16 gig of ram, and I have a 300Mbps fiber connection.
    I'm outside Wash DC.
    My CPU isn't the fastest i7 OC'd unit, but it is way over game requirement.

    Sometimes the game is unplayable due to lag and loading screens.
    Cyrodill is usually a slideshow.
    So are many delves on too many occasions.

    Yeah I've heard the game is more reliant on cpu rather than gpu, i was just answering his question. Pretty much agree with everything you said.

    My cpu is a i5 6600. Must be something ZOS can do, can't they upgrade their servers? Fox the code? I don't know. I can't see how it can remain the same without them losing players.

    If the issue isn't as widespread, then you should consider looking inward.

    But the issue is pretty widespread.
  • Shawn_PT
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    I have been struck by Endless Loading Screens (ELS) several times these last couple of days. Interestingly enough, none in Cyro though I have been spending very little time there.

    Yesterday I had to restart my game three times in a row because it was totally impossible to load from one particular instance to another. I visited the guild hall which has all crafting stations and whatnot. Trying then to port to my Flaming Nix inn room for a 'free' trip to Mournhold consistently resulted in ELS. No tiny inn room should take 10 minutes plus to load.

    Three times I tried, and three times I got stuck and had to restart the game. Also had to turn the sound down because that music box thing would not shut up while in the ELS. I'm not sure what kind of changes were made but I know that when I used to log out in a house I don't own (a crown store only instance), when logging back in I'd be placed outside, where I had been before porting into said house. Now it still places me in the guild hall when I relog, which may have something to do with being stuck in the ELS.

    Whenever I visit the guild hall I am now forced to walk out the door (which used to place me where I loaded in, and now places me outside their door, in the middle of friggin nowhere too) and then port to my inn room back to Mournhold. That's yet another loading screen, but at least they're not endless.

    Porting from somewhere random to my Flaming Nix room also takes more time now than it normally would. And it's not even decorated. It has a few items, a chair, banker, merchant, one storage box, and a Jester's coffer because I like popping that thing open between loading screens. It's amusing and somewhat worth the wait. With a high-end PC and a fast connection it should not take more than a handful of seconds to load.

    I have changed no settings. I have added no addons. Some have been updated though. Loading used to take 10 seconds or so. Something has happened to change that. And I am 99% sure the issue is NOT on my end.
  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    Neoealth wrote: »
    I will give an awesome to everyone who helps raise this issue.


    I don't want to troll or cause problems, I just want this problem to get fixed.

    *Necros 16+ threads, most of them from 2015-16 to the front page, annoying most people*

    Edited by Reistr_the_Unbroken on January 13, 2019 4:06PM
  • twev
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    ]

    Yeah I've heard the game is more reliant on cpu rather than gpu, i was just answering his question. Pretty much agree with everything you said.

    My cpu is a i5 6600. Must be something ZOS can do, can't they upgrade their servers? Fox the code? I don't know. I can't see how it can remain the same without them losing players.

    If the issue isn't as widespread, then you should consider looking inward.

    If you play on PC - open the LAN connection status icon in the taskbar tray - and watch how little network traffic is actually moving during a long loading screen.

    VERY little info is moving.
    Most of the time is spent waiting for the ZOS server to respond.

    I agree that there can be local issues and mismatches on clients from time to time, but if there really is a problem with client issues on that wide a scale, ZOS needs to do a better job with the launcher (especially after DLCs and updates) to recognize client/server software mismatches.

    And doing a 'repair' from the launcher screen is replete with it's own journal of horror stories from people who tried or were advised to try repair.

    <3
    The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.
  • twev
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    Neoealth wrote: »
    I will give an awesome to everyone who helps raise this issue.


    I don't want to troll or cause problems, I just want this problem to get fixed.

    *Necros 16+ threads, most of them from 2015-16 to the front page, annoying most people*

    Bless your heart.
    <3

    Please cite 'most people'.

    o:)
    The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.
  • Oberstein
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    gresiac wrote: »
    its getting really annoying haveing unending loadingscreens 10 times a day

    How many addons you got? Maybe it's related to addons
    History, like a human being, is thirsty when it wakes from its slumber…History wants to drink up an enormous amount of blood. And even if history has tired of drinking blood, that’s only in regards to the amount. But what about quality? The larger the sacrifice is, the more delighted the cruel gods will be.
  • shaielzafine
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    Tasear wrote: »
    To best get results keep information in one thread and give details about the event. What time was this happening? What system was this happening? Things like that will help you get closer to results you like.

    They already collected all this info, and I submitted my info on this in November of 2017. It's already 2019 and there's an influx of these forum threads probably because they decided to do another midyear mayhem event without ever bothering to fix the loadscreens issue.

    Here's the official infinite loading screen thread posted by Gina:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/380707/main-thread-for-long-loading-screens
  • shaielzafine
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    twev wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    To best get results keep information in one thread and give details about the event. What time was this happening? What system was this happening? Things like that will help you get closer to results you like.

    With respect, people have been making threads and tickets for years now detailing everything. Nothing ever gets done.

    I can understand your anguish, but I speak from first hand knowledge as a former class rep, these issues do get looked at and have improved over years, but there's a lot of variables that could be happening per individual.

    What kind of system are you using?

    What kind of content is this happening in?

    What time are you playing?

    What settings are you using?

    What add-ons do you have on?

    Windows 10 PC

    Happening in all content, loading into dungeons, delves, cyrodiil, battle grounds, even loading screens for no reason while just running around.

    Settings in game? Not sure would have to look, I have a pretty high end system and fast internet. I think I have the graphics settings quite high.

    I use skyshards, lore books and the most popular treasure map add on. Oh and MM for trading.

    How long are your load screens? Try without add-on to eliminate unseen variables. Might try repairing install just in case. Also turn settings down just to see if that changes anything.

    They can last from 5 mins to 10-15 mins, or sometimes i will leave them for as long as it takes and they never resolve and i am forced to close the game. I'll try without add ons, but honestly I had these never ending loading screens before i used to use add ons.

    I think something strange is happening. I know it's a long process, but might also want to try a fresh install.

    Are you based in states?

    Do you exceed or meet system requirements?

    What kind of graphics card do you have?

    Try changing it's performance for pure performance.

    Something strange is happening for sure. You think it might actually be the game that is broke?

    I am in the UK, EU server. Graphics card is GF 1060 6 gig ram

    I will try changing the settings lower, but I think a fresh install would be too much.

    Thanks.

    Keep in mind that the game is more dependent on the CPU power of the first core than it is on GPU power once the minimums are met.
    That is to say:
    A bigger/better GPU won't make the game run/dispay much better because the game is CPU dependent.
    And the CPU dependence is coded poorly as well.
    The game is poorly optimized, and successive DLCs haven't always integrated well with previously existing code, and isn't in any way burdened with working with any of the add-ons that the base game 'encourages' (by leaving so much stuff out).

    Add to that - a lot of problems are network issues between your client and the main servers. Communications aren't handled with great efficiency, and latency issues abound.
    What I find galling is having a 100 ping, and lag-bubbles or loading screens popping up over and over.
    I can frequently come out of a wayshrine into several small loading screens while trying to take my first several steps (it happens in Skywatch ALL the time).

    Or entering a wayshrine with groupmates, but exiting the wayshrine to see them '100 yards' ahead of me galloping away.

    This isn't a killer rig - but it's plenty good enough as far as ZOS demands:
    I'm running an i5 6500 CPU, an nVidia 1080, Win7/64 on an M2 drive with the game on another SSD, 16 gig of ram, and I have a 300Mbps fiber connection.
    I'm outside Wash DC.
    My CPU isn't the fastest i7 OC'd unit, but it is way over game requirement.

    Sometimes the game is unplayable due to lag and loading screens.
    Cyrodill is usually a slideshow.
    So are many delves on too many occasions.

    Yeah I've heard the game is more reliant on cpu rather than gpu, i was just answering his question. Pretty much agree with everything you said.

    My cpu is a i5 6600. Must be something ZOS can do, can't they upgrade their servers? Fox the code? I don't know. I can't see how it can remain the same without them losing players.

    If the issue isn't as widespread, then you should consider looking inward.

    Do you pvp? Because I'm 100% sure this issue is widespread
  • phairdon
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    Hit by loading screen at Kingscrest keep again today.
    Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)
  • SirAndy
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    Got loading screens twice (!) while 1x1 a straggler that was still inside a keep after we flipped it.

    After the 2nd loading screen i said "*** it" and just walked off the tower.
    Ironically, i didn't die from the fall and he came after me and finished me off.

    Logged off after that ..
    dry.gif
  • D0PAMINE
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    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    To best get results keep information in one thread and give details about the event. What time was this happening? What system was this happening? Things like that will help you get closer to results you like.

    With respect, people have been making threads and tickets for years now detailing everything. Nothing ever gets done.

    I can understand your anguish, but I speak from first hand knowledge as a former class rep, these issues do get looked at and have improved over years, but there's a lot of variables that could be happening per individual.

    What kind of system are you using?

    What kind of content is this happening in?

    What time are you playing?

    What settings are you using?

    What add-ons do you have on?

    Windows 10 PC

    Happening in all content, loading into dungeons, delves, cyrodiil, battle grounds, even loading screens for no reason while just running around.

    Settings in game? Not sure would have to look, I have a pretty high end system and fast internet. I think I have the graphics settings quite high.

    I use skyshards, lore books and the most popular treasure map add on. Oh and MM for trading.

    Forgot to answer the time question.

    Quite random times, mostly from 11am onto 3pm, then after a break, later in the evening 6pm-9pm

    Windows 10 by default has windows defender in realtime mode running 24/7 eating all your CPU. Also, they put out frequent background running updates using a lot of bandwidth.
    Edited by D0PAMINE on January 14, 2019 5:25AM
  • Jameliel
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    Neoealth wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Ok so apparently most of them are just necro’d

    Does that make them any less valid to the point? Nope.

    On going problem, never ever any solution.
    Does necroing threads from 2015 make a larger problem than it should: yep.

    ZoS won’t even bat an eye at them and a mod will just lock them.

    Well with an attitude like that, they probably will if enough people think this way.

    Do you not get that ZOS needs context? Location/activity leading up to load screen...video if you have it...that’s why /tickets/ are a thing. Either take a crap or get off the pot. What you’re doing isn’t effective.

    Have sent in numerous bug reports and requests for help over many months. Thanks for posting and bumping the thread.Please keep doing so.
  • Aluneth
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    PC - EU

    9700k
    1080
    50mb/Internet
    New installation
    Skyshards, Lorebooks, Treasures (have tried without them too)

    The last two days I've spent around 3-4 hours of game time in loading screens. It starts at around 16:00 and goes all the way to 23:00 when I quit the game. I've had to alt + f4 up to 8 times in a row, spending more than half an hour trying to enter a delve. It happens when I try to enter quest areas (caves, catacombs,etc) and delves. It never happens when I travel between zones.

    I'm not the only one that I know of who suffers from this. Several of my friends and my brother suffers from the same long loading screens.

    I'm not a game designer, so I can't say what the problem is. If I would have to guess, I would say it has to do with the amount of people that are online in the game at once. I can't remember having these load screens during odd hours, and they are like clockwork when it's after 5PM on a day with an event.
  • Neoealth
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    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    To best get results keep information in one thread and give details about the event. What time was this happening? What system was this happening? Things like that will help you get closer to results you like.

    With respect, people have been making threads and tickets for years now detailing everything. Nothing ever gets done.

    I can understand your anguish, but I speak from first hand knowledge as a former class rep, these issues do get looked at and have improved over years, but there's a lot of variables that could be happening per individual.

    What kind of system are you using?

    What kind of content is this happening in?

    What time are you playing?

    What settings are you using?

    What add-ons do you have on?

    Windows 10 PC

    Happening in all content, loading into dungeons, delves, cyrodiil, battle grounds, even loading screens for no reason while just running around.

    Settings in game? Not sure would have to look, I have a pretty high end system and fast internet. I think I have the graphics settings quite high.

    I use skyshards, lore books and the most popular treasure map add on. Oh and MM for trading.

    Forgot to answer the time question.

    Quite random times, mostly from 11am onto 3pm, then after a break, later in the evening 6pm-9pm

    Windows 10 by default has windows defender in realtime mode running 24/7 eating all your CPU. Also, they put out frequent background running updates using a lot of bandwidth.

    I use a different anti virus which makes windows defender turn off. I don't think it's a case of my cpu being over used with the loading screens, I've checked in the past using the system resource monitor during a infinite loading screen, and it's really not doing much of anything. I'm no expert on technical issues, but it's like the game just stops sending data sometimes and hangs forever. Not like it's actually struggling to load anything. A faux loading screen.


  • teladoy
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    We are coming back to the same Topic of always.

    This is a great fun game but with a very bad quality.
  • Tandor
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    Neoealth wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Riverlynn wrote: »
    Neoealth wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    To best get results keep information in one thread and give details about the event. What time was this happening? What system was this happening? Things like that will help you get closer to results you like.

    With respect, people have been making threads and tickets for years now detailing everything. Nothing ever gets done.


    ...but all that's gonna happen here is a load of locked threads and possibly you taking a little holiday from the forums...how will that solve the problem?


    Well I am aware I could get silenced or banned...But It's my hope others complain as well. I just want it fixed.

    This isn’t Yelp you know. If you had made one detailed thread describing your issue and asking for others experiences I would have sympathized completely. This screeching approach only works for middle aged women with short hair demanding to speak to a manager. Unless your name is Cynthia and you drive a Ford Focus then please take advice given...

    lol normally i would agree with that. But come on, look around.. nothing gets done whatever we do. If everyone got angry and caused a problem on the forums for ZOS, they MIGHT just get off their backsides and fix their game.

    No, they'd turn their attention to cleaning up the forums instead of focusing on the game.

    Or as SOE did some years ago with EQ, just close the forum completely.
  • Rain_Greyraven
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    /sigh......

    update your network driver

    then
    Go to your network card settings make sure EEE is turned off
    find your offload settings turn them all to off (all of them)
    Set your interrupt moderation rate to off.
    Disable your flow control.

    If you network card happens to have these settings below do this....
    Disable Receive Side Scaling
    Disable Adaptive Inter-Frame Spacing
    Set Enable PME to DISABLED
    Disable Packet Priority & VLAN
    Disable Jumbo Packet


    Update your graphics, Direct X and audio drivers

    Also make sure your'e hardwired in and not using wi-fi, I don't care if it's telling you your'e rocking 5G, you are more likely to be doing 2G or less in actual downlink, with your up-link around 720k.

    finally
    locate your usersettings.ini file for ESO. Typically this is located in documents\elder scrolls online open it with notepad.
    make sure SET HIGH_RESOLUTION_SHADOWS is set to 0
    SET GPUSmoothingFrames to 0
    Set SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS to -3

    if you are running ESO in SLI or Crossfire mode don't do that.
    make sure Vsyc is off on your settings make sure the game is running in full screen.


    This should load screen waits and overall performance..

    I usually don't offer advice because of the douchnozzle rating of the forum, but you caught me in a decent mood.

    Hope this helps.
    Edited by Rain_Greyraven on January 14, 2019 3:09PM
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  • SirAndy
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    Go to your network card settings make sure EEE is turned off

    If your network card goes into EEE mode while you're playing an online game, you have more serious problems than loading screens ...
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  • Bhaal5
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    Loadscreens, really makes all that money we blindly pile into the game... Worth it?

    Who else gets the "neverending stories" theme song stuck in their head when they get a load screen?
  • karthrag_inak
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    Neoealth wrote: »
    twev wrote: »
    if they're unending then how can they happened 10x a day?

    A 10 minute loading screen usually results in the game booting you out to a log-in, or closing the game and starting anew.

    You think that it should happen once and the player ought just walk away and quit the game for the rest of the day/week?
    A lot of people pay money to come to the game and relax after their day.
    Paying money to come to a relaxing place and being assailed with long loading screens, and lag, and harvest-bots just leaves people feeling abused.
    Abused players go elsewhere when they find a game subject they like better than the one they 'prefer' (this one) when the 'abuse' get to the point of making it pointless to come back.

    That may sound well and good, but if more people get tired of the issues above, and leave - faster than new players buy the game - you're going to start to get lonely....

    my inferred point (which was perhaps too subtle) was that the morass of histrionic hyperbole, devoid of objective description and evidence, that is plaguing the forums currently diminishes the perceived severity of the issue. in other words, posting self-contradictory crap whilst in the throes of an attention seeking tantrum accomplishes little to help the issue.

    What does help the issue then? Please inform us. Will I need a theosaurus to understand your reply?

    I have an idea. How about someone find every thread regarding long loading times from 2 or 3 years ago and resurrect them. Because, then, you know, the DeVz w1ll getz da cLuez.
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