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THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Kuramas9tails wrote: »@THEDKEXPERIENCE Not totally innocent? May I ask how you came to that conclusion? I am very intrigued seeing as you don't know the full situation at hand. Most of the examples I gave are what I witnessed happen to others. Only two were examples that happened to me in a span of 3 years. That is less than one a year,THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Kuramas9tails wrote: »You serious? You must not PVP too often on PS4. A lot of the players are *** talkers. Watch any of the big name PVPers on PS4 on Youtube and they are huge *** talkers it's ridiculous. One guy even went so far as to say to me "aren't you ugly in real life?". One guy got mad at my boyfriend in Cyrodiil that he messaged me and told me my boyfriend was cheating on me with another girl on Snapchat which my boyfriend doesn't even use that app and doesn't even know how to use it. I use it but he doesn't. Now the guy is telling people in Cyrodiil and youtube that my boyfriend is the only stupid guy to be dating an unloyal girlfriend like me.
Like seriously. This is all from the PVP community. A lot of *** talking D-bags.
Edit: And not to mention the couple in Cyrodiil who were harassed by other players where other players were making inappropriate guild names towards the wife and claimed keeps with the guild so others could see it. They even talk about nudes of girl players and willing to share it with anyone who asks. When my guild masters ex passed away, players were going after him with a lot of stupid and inappropriate things. He doesn't play much anymore.
PVP is worse than the elitists in PVE. By far. Especially PVP players on PS4 NA server. Very few frequent PVPers I respect.
None of that is acceptable but my I have a sinking feeling that you’re not the easiest person to get along with and likely aren’t totally innocent.
If you run into one jerk during your day then you ran into a jerk. If you are constantly running into jerks all day long then you should probably look in the mirror.
- “a lot of players are #### talkers”
No more than other games.
- Someone called you ugly for literally no reason? Really? Sure there was no reason? None?
- Someone decided to take the time to develop a whole snap chat drama story for no reason? None?
- An isolated incident means that “all the PvP community” are “#### talking d-bags”? Really, everyone?
Hey, maybe I’m wrong and you’re an angel who people have picked on for literally no reason because you won the unlucky lottery. Or ... maybe ... just maybe ... you have a horrible attitude and bring stuff like this upon yourself?
I’ve been playing this game for like 5 years now. The only people this stuff happens to more than once in a blue moon is to people lacking in social skills.
Some people in PVP really get triggered by some things you do. Thus is why we see a lot of complaining in the forums. Some will also take it out in a form of a hate message to the person who did it or want to get under the other persons skin to get a reaction. I bet snipe spammers get a lot of hate messages. I bet shield stacking Sorcs do. Gankers do, my boyfriend I were gank partners and we received hate messages. Literally, all you have to do is kill someone or bag someone and you'll get a message by someone eventually. It's the PVP life, especially on PS4.This whole exchange is another example of why people think the community is toxic. People jumping to conclusions, people ostriching about how crappy people can just randomly be because they either have never encountered it themselves and can't comprehend others having different life experiences, or they just don't WANT to believe that someone could actually randomly go out of their way to attack someone because that messes with their view that the world is live-and-let-live. This is the sort of thing that contributes to the overall impression that most players simply don't care about other people.
Kuramas9tails wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Kuramas9tails wrote: »@THEDKEXPERIENCE Not totally innocent? May I ask how you came to that conclusion? I am very intrigued seeing as you don't know the full situation at hand. Most of the examples I gave are what I witnessed happen to others. Only two were examples that happened to me in a span of 3 years. That is less than one a year,THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Kuramas9tails wrote: »You serious? You must not PVP too often on PS4. A lot of the players are *** talkers. Watch any of the big name PVPers on PS4 on Youtube and they are huge *** talkers it's ridiculous. One guy even went so far as to say to me "aren't you ugly in real life?". One guy got mad at my boyfriend in Cyrodiil that he messaged me and told me my boyfriend was cheating on me with another girl on Snapchat which my boyfriend doesn't even use that app and doesn't even know how to use it. I use it but he doesn't. Now the guy is telling people in Cyrodiil and youtube that my boyfriend is the only stupid guy to be dating an unloyal girlfriend like me.
Like seriously. This is all from the PVP community. A lot of *** talking D-bags.
Edit: And not to mention the couple in Cyrodiil who were harassed by other players where other players were making inappropriate guild names towards the wife and claimed keeps with the guild so others could see it. They even talk about nudes of girl players and willing to share it with anyone who asks. When my guild masters ex passed away, players were going after him with a lot of stupid and inappropriate things. He doesn't play much anymore.
PVP is worse than the elitists in PVE. By far. Especially PVP players on PS4 NA server. Very few frequent PVPers I respect.
None of that is acceptable but my I have a sinking feeling that you’re not the easiest person to get along with and likely aren’t totally innocent.
If you run into one jerk during your day then you ran into a jerk. If you are constantly running into jerks all day long then you should probably look in the mirror.
- “a lot of players are #### talkers”
No more than other games.
- Someone called you ugly for literally no reason? Really? Sure there was no reason? None?
- Someone decided to take the time to develop a whole snap chat drama story for no reason? None?
- An isolated incident means that “all the PvP community” are “#### talking d-bags”? Really, everyone?
Hey, maybe I’m wrong and you’re an angel who people have picked on for literally no reason because you won the unlucky lottery. Or ... maybe ... just maybe ... you have a horrible attitude and bring stuff like this upon yourself?
I’ve been playing this game for like 5 years now. The only people this stuff happens to more than once in a blue moon is to people lacking in social skills.
@THEDKEXPERIENCE Naw. The guy who called me ugly was AFK right next to his keep (that was just flagged may I add). He's known for sending hate messages to people, including my boyfriend, so I killed him and bagged him since he has done the same to me. He's so notorious that people on Facebook share their stories of him. He got mad and sent me a hate message and all I said that was if you go AFK, at least go in stealth first and for someone who is in PVP all day, he should know better. If you do a noob mistake and you die, you deserve it. I will acknowledge when I deserve to be killed and bagged. I move on. heck, my boyfriend will even tell me I deserve it. I don't send hate messages. So I said don't be a noob and he said "aren't you ugly in real life". I go from telling him the mistake he made in an unforgiving PVP world in a video game to him personally attacking my appearance. You know what I would have done if it was reversed? I would have res'ed at the closest keep and kept fighting. But he has such a big ego it's ridiculous. And most players who are AFK, I bash them first to see if they are there or lagged out. If you bag me or kill me when I am AFK, I will do the same. I never bag unless you done it to me.
Your thoughts? I am curious to know.
Kuramas9tails wrote: »Some people in PVP really get triggered by some things you do. Thus is why we see a lot of complaining in the forums. Some will also take it out in a form of a hate message to the person who did it or want to get under the other persons skin to get a reaction. I bet snipe spammers get a lot of hate messages. I bet shield stacking Sorcs do. Gankers do, my boyfriend I were gank partners and we received hate messages. Literally, all you have to do is kill someone or bag someone and you'll get a message by someone eventually. It's the PVP life, especially on PS4.This whole exchange is another example of why people think the community is toxic. People jumping to conclusions, people ostriching about how crappy people can just randomly be because they either have never encountered it themselves and can't comprehend others having different life experiences, or they just don't WANT to believe that someone could actually randomly go out of their way to attack someone because that messes with their view that the world is live-and-let-live. This is the sort of thing that contributes to the overall impression that most players simply don't care about other people.
@THEDKEXPERIENCE No problem. I instigated it that day because he done it to me so I did it back. Although I readily accept hate messages as far as ESO, calling me a proc scrub or a bad ganker or whatever, taking a stab at someone personally in appearance is a low hit. In my opinion. But I have came across many people who are triggered by many things. I myself have learned to step away before I get mad. I even leave Cyrodiil at times because I become overwhelmed. And when people play telephone, rumors become obsolete but people don't take it as that. I judge based on my personal experience and what I witness. There are two sides to a story indeed and what my original comment was was based on unwarranted hate or someone taking it too far. If I deserved the hate, I wouldn't have mentioned it because I deserve it.THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Kuramas9tails wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Kuramas9tails wrote: »@THEDKEXPERIENCE Not totally innocent? May I ask how you came to that conclusion? I am very intrigued seeing as you don't know the full situation at hand. Most of the examples I gave are what I witnessed happen to others. Only two were examples that happened to me in a span of 3 years. That is less than one a year,THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Kuramas9tails wrote: »You serious? You must not PVP too often on PS4. A lot of the players are *** talkers. Watch any of the big name PVPers on PS4 on Youtube and they are huge *** talkers it's ridiculous. One guy even went so far as to say to me "aren't you ugly in real life?". One guy got mad at my boyfriend in Cyrodiil that he messaged me and told me my boyfriend was cheating on me with another girl on Snapchat which my boyfriend doesn't even use that app and doesn't even know how to use it. I use it but he doesn't. Now the guy is telling people in Cyrodiil and youtube that my boyfriend is the only stupid guy to be dating an unloyal girlfriend like me.
Like seriously. This is all from the PVP community. A lot of *** talking D-bags.
Edit: And not to mention the couple in Cyrodiil who were harassed by other players where other players were making inappropriate guild names towards the wife and claimed keeps with the guild so others could see it. They even talk about nudes of girl players and willing to share it with anyone who asks. When my guild masters ex passed away, players were going after him with a lot of stupid and inappropriate things. He doesn't play much anymore.
PVP is worse than the elitists in PVE. By far. Especially PVP players on PS4 NA server. Very few frequent PVPers I respect.
None of that is acceptable but my I have a sinking feeling that you’re not the easiest person to get along with and likely aren’t totally innocent.
If you run into one jerk during your day then you ran into a jerk. If you are constantly running into jerks all day long then you should probably look in the mirror.
- “a lot of players are #### talkers”
No more than other games.
- Someone called you ugly for literally no reason? Really? Sure there was no reason? None?
- Someone decided to take the time to develop a whole snap chat drama story for no reason? None?
- An isolated incident means that “all the PvP community” are “#### talking d-bags”? Really, everyone?
Hey, maybe I’m wrong and you’re an angel who people have picked on for literally no reason because you won the unlucky lottery. Or ... maybe ... just maybe ... you have a horrible attitude and bring stuff like this upon yourself?
I’ve been playing this game for like 5 years now. The only people this stuff happens to more than once in a blue moon is to people lacking in social skills.
@THEDKEXPERIENCE Naw. The guy who called me ugly was AFK right next to his keep (that was just flagged may I add). He's known for sending hate messages to people, including my boyfriend, so I killed him and bagged him since he has done the same to me. He's so notorious that people on Facebook share their stories of him. He got mad and sent me a hate message and all I said that was if you go AFK, at least go in stealth first and for someone who is in PVP all day, he should know better. If you do a noob mistake and you die, you deserve it. I will acknowledge when I deserve to be killed and bagged. I move on. heck, my boyfriend will even tell me I deserve it. I don't send hate messages. So I said don't be a noob and he said "aren't you ugly in real life". I go from telling him the mistake he made in an unforgiving PVP world in a video game to him personally attacking my appearance. You know what I would have done if it was reversed? I would have res'ed at the closest keep and kept fighting. But he has such a big ego it's ridiculous. And most players who are AFK, I bash them first to see if they are there or lagged out. If you bag me or kill me when I am AFK, I will do the same. I never bag unless you done it to me.
Your thoughts? I am curious to know.
Thanks for your response and sorry if my tone was bad.
That said, while the retaliation for your tea bagging and “don’t be a noob” comment was over the top, disgusting and unwarranted, I seem to be correct that some of the bad behavior was in effect asked for. You knew he was likely to be triggered by the “Facebook stories” yet still poked the bear.
There are and always will be awful people. If those of us who do our best to not be awful taunt those who are we should not be surprised when their responses go way past the realm of normalcy.
Overall a significant majority of people in ESO are fun, friendly and reasonable. Your original post painted the whole group with a broad brush which is what I took issue with.
Anyway thank you for your reasonable response, and sorry if I came off badly. For everyone else - especially those who came at me for victim shaming - there is ALWAYS two sides to a story. I very much appreciate that the OP took the time to admit that this behavior was not out of the blue but rather an innocent joke or two gone array due to the over the top response.
Kuramas9tails wrote: »@THEDKEXPERIENCE No problem. I instigated it that day because he done it to me so I did it back. Although I readily accept hate messages as far as ESO, calling me a proc scrub or a bad ganker or whatever, taking a stab at someone personally in appearance is a low hit. In my opinion. But I have came across many people who are triggered by many things. I myself have learned to step away before I get mad. I even leave Cyrodiil at times because I become overwhelmed. And when people play telephone, rumors become obsolete but people don't take it as that. I judge based on my personal experience and what I witness. There are two sides to a story indeed and what my original comment was was based on unwarranted hate or someone taking it too far. If I deserved the hate, I wouldn't have mentioned it because I deserve it.THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Kuramas9tails wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Kuramas9tails wrote: »@THEDKEXPERIENCE Not totally innocent? May I ask how you came to that conclusion? I am very intrigued seeing as you don't know the full situation at hand. Most of the examples I gave are what I witnessed happen to others. Only two were examples that happened to me in a span of 3 years. That is less than one a year,THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Kuramas9tails wrote: »You serious? You must not PVP too often on PS4. A lot of the players are *** talkers. Watch any of the big name PVPers on PS4 on Youtube and they are huge *** talkers it's ridiculous. One guy even went so far as to say to me "aren't you ugly in real life?". One guy got mad at my boyfriend in Cyrodiil that he messaged me and told me my boyfriend was cheating on me with another girl on Snapchat which my boyfriend doesn't even use that app and doesn't even know how to use it. I use it but he doesn't. Now the guy is telling people in Cyrodiil and youtube that my boyfriend is the only stupid guy to be dating an unloyal girlfriend like me.
Like seriously. This is all from the PVP community. A lot of *** talking D-bags.
Edit: And not to mention the couple in Cyrodiil who were harassed by other players where other players were making inappropriate guild names towards the wife and claimed keeps with the guild so others could see it. They even talk about nudes of girl players and willing to share it with anyone who asks. When my guild masters ex passed away, players were going after him with a lot of stupid and inappropriate things. He doesn't play much anymore.
PVP is worse than the elitists in PVE. By far. Especially PVP players on PS4 NA server. Very few frequent PVPers I respect.
None of that is acceptable but my I have a sinking feeling that you’re not the easiest person to get along with and likely aren’t totally innocent.
If you run into one jerk during your day then you ran into a jerk. If you are constantly running into jerks all day long then you should probably look in the mirror.
- “a lot of players are #### talkers”
No more than other games.
- Someone called you ugly for literally no reason? Really? Sure there was no reason? None?
- Someone decided to take the time to develop a whole snap chat drama story for no reason? None?
- An isolated incident means that “all the PvP community” are “#### talking d-bags”? Really, everyone?
Hey, maybe I’m wrong and you’re an angel who people have picked on for literally no reason because you won the unlucky lottery. Or ... maybe ... just maybe ... you have a horrible attitude and bring stuff like this upon yourself?
I’ve been playing this game for like 5 years now. The only people this stuff happens to more than once in a blue moon is to people lacking in social skills.
@THEDKEXPERIENCE Naw. The guy who called me ugly was AFK right next to his keep (that was just flagged may I add). He's known for sending hate messages to people, including my boyfriend, so I killed him and bagged him since he has done the same to me. He's so notorious that people on Facebook share their stories of him. He got mad and sent me a hate message and all I said that was if you go AFK, at least go in stealth first and for someone who is in PVP all day, he should know better. If you do a noob mistake and you die, you deserve it. I will acknowledge when I deserve to be killed and bagged. I move on. heck, my boyfriend will even tell me I deserve it. I don't send hate messages. So I said don't be a noob and he said "aren't you ugly in real life". I go from telling him the mistake he made in an unforgiving PVP world in a video game to him personally attacking my appearance. You know what I would have done if it was reversed? I would have res'ed at the closest keep and kept fighting. But he has such a big ego it's ridiculous. And most players who are AFK, I bash them first to see if they are there or lagged out. If you bag me or kill me when I am AFK, I will do the same. I never bag unless you done it to me.
Your thoughts? I am curious to know.
Thanks for your response and sorry if my tone was bad.
That said, while the retaliation for your tea bagging and “don’t be a noob” comment was over the top, disgusting and unwarranted, I seem to be correct that some of the bad behavior was in effect asked for. You knew he was likely to be triggered by the “Facebook stories” yet still poked the bear.
There are and always will be awful people. If those of us who do our best to not be awful taunt those who are we should not be surprised when their responses go way past the realm of normalcy.
Overall a significant majority of people in ESO are fun, friendly and reasonable. Your original post painted the whole group with a broad brush which is what I took issue with.
Anyway thank you for your reasonable response, and sorry if I came off badly. For everyone else - especially those who came at me for victim shaming - there is ALWAYS two sides to a story. I very much appreciate that the OP took the time to admit that this behavior was not out of the blue but rather an innocent joke or two gone array due to the over the top response.
The toxicity comes from the savages who play the game who act out savage tendencies in the game
The problem isn't "PVE elitist" or whatever your type of thinking would describe it as.
PVE elitists are people who are proven to be better at the game than you, and who actively move the community forward through endeavours such as leaderboard runs, and the like. They're the opposite of toxic, through most interpretations.
Do you know what a toxic community even is like?
The toxicity comes from the savages who play the game who act out savage tendencies in the game
The problem isn't "PVE elitist" or whatever your type of thinking would describe it as.
PVE elitists are people who are proven to be better at the game than you, and who actively move the community forward through endeavours such as leaderboard runs, and the like. They're the opposite of toxic, through most interpretations.
Do you know what a toxic community even is like?
Lol. That's what you're sticking with?
The toxicity comes from the savages who play the game who act out savage tendencies in the game
The problem isn't "PVE elitist" or whatever your type of thinking would describe it as.
PVE elitists are people who are proven to be better at the game than you, and who actively move the community forward through endeavours such as leaderboard runs, and the like. They're the opposite of toxic, through most interpretations.
Do you know what a toxic community even is like?
The toxicity comes from the savages who play the game who act out savage tendencies in the game
The problem isn't "PVE elitist" or whatever your type of thinking would describe it as.
PVE elitists are people who are proven to be better at the predictable AI mechanics than you, and who actively move the community forward through endeavours such as leaderboard runs, and the like. They're the opposite of toxic, through most interpretations.
Do you know what a toxic community even is like?
WaltherCarraway wrote: »The toxicity comes from the savages who play the game who act out savage tendencies in the game
The problem isn't "PVE elitist" or whatever your type of thinking would describe it as.
PVE elitists are people who are proven to be better at the predictable AI mechanics than you, and who actively move the community forward through endeavours such as leaderboard runs, and the like. They're the opposite of toxic, through most interpretations.
Do you know what a toxic community even is like?
fixed that for you
Peekachu99 wrote: »Tbagging is an epidemic on console. Other than that the community is okay.
barney2525 wrote: »Cyradil. Definitely rotten toxic. Never been there until this event (which imho sux by the way. they advertise we can get tickets by doing town quests, but there are NO towns that are not controlled by the enemy. Hence - No Ticket For You)
Had no idea what the transitus wayshrines were. Popped in at the West gate and need to be at the East gate. Standard wayshrine wont get me there. Tried riding and was blocked by mountains. Got on Chat and asked why wayshrines didnt work (maybe was a little harsh 8) ). All I got was Noob insults. Then someone mentioned Transitus shrines. I asked what that was.
Crickets
And people wonder why I dont PvP.