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Why bother having events if you're not prepared for them?
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Deedleqwerty wrote: »Other than the Queue lengths, I don't understand players complaining about the performance during this event. Now, I am not saying there aren't performance issues in Cyrodil. There are, but those issues are independent of this event. Pop Locked Vivec performance will be the same before this event and during this event and after this event. It is the same number of players in either instance in Cyrodil. So the lag is the same lag that PVPers have been dealing with during prime time hours every single day anyways. This event is not making the performance worse because it is not increasing the population cap.
ZOS apologist talking nonsense.
I pvp every day, and I can tell you that on the NA PS4 server, this is much much worse.
It's purely to do with pop then as I've had zero issues in shor all night.
People want zerh vivec, i get that. Then they need to accept lag. If folks just spread out they get a better experience. Small scale is way more fun anyway but during event we have ok pop.
Just spread out.
But players are players, follow the same pattern. And half of them aren't playing PvP they zerging for AP rather than enjoy a decent fight. Hey ***.
But why?
Why should we accept that a game, which has a population lock (obviously for performance reasons), performs horrifically at population lock, and performs terribly at 3x 2 bars of population lock.
It's bad design, and we shouldn't accept it.
It is clearly a choice left up to each of us individually to make. It is why most of the solid PvP guilds and players left long ago. Yes, some remain but it is clear Cyrodiil is a shell of it's former self.3 -
Alaztor91✭✭✭✭✭
✭I remember a few weeks ago when Rich Lambert posted about the problems the group finder had with the last Undaunted Celebration event and how they will not do another event that requires using the group finder until they are sure it works correctly.
I guess that it doesn't matter if an event is unplayable if it's not a PvE one.3 -
tamrielwinner✭✭✭the lag is actually what vivec sees regularly. this isn't new. but there are several new pvp campaigns that players can enter, that are not 100% packed with players that will have less lag.3
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Monsieur✭✭✭Deedleqwerty wrote: »Other than the Queue lengths, I don't understand players complaining about the performance during this event. Now, I am not saying there aren't performance issues in Cyrodil. There are, but those issues are independent of this event. Pop Locked Vivec performance will be the same before this event and during this event and after this event. It is the same number of players in either instance in Cyrodil. So the lag is the same lag that PVPers have been dealing with during prime time hours every single day anyways. This event is not making the performance worse because it is not increasing the population cap.
ZOS apologist talking nonsense.
I pvp every day, and I can tell you that on the NA PS4 server, this is much much worse.
It's purely to do with pop then as I've had zero issues in shor all night.
People want zerh vivec, i get that. Then they need to accept lag. If folks just spread out they get a better experience. Small scale is way more fun anyway but during event we have ok pop.
Just spread out.
But players are players, follow the same pattern. And half of them aren't playing PvP they zerging for AP rather than enjoy a decent fight. Hey ***.
But why?
Why should we accept that a game, which has a population lock (obviously for performance reasons), performs horrifically at population lock, and performs terribly at 3x 2 bars of population lock.
It's bad design, and we shouldn't accept it.
It is clearly a choice left up to each of us individually to make. It is why most of the solid PvP guilds and players left long ago. Yes, some remain but it is clear Cyrodiil is a shell of it's former self.
I guess my point is that it shouldn’t be down to us to choose whether we play a populated campaign but it will be laggy, or a unpopulated campaign with less lag (but is still laggy - let’s not pretend that’s Shor is fluid and doesn’t have an ounce of lag, it does.)
The game should be capable of providing a reasonable experience at any population level, but for whatever reason it can’t.
PS4 EU Vivec was terrible last night, inability to bar swap, skills not firing off, siege stating that it’s busy... This doesn’t normally happen and we’re usually at 2 factions pop lock at prime time. This happened even during small-scale fights, if you tried to go join a large Zerg it was 1FPS all night long.2 -
shaielzafine✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »If we waited until the servers were ready for the influx of players, we'd never have Midyear Mayhem.
TBH, even before midyear mayhem we already had most of these problems. The long loading screen issue has been around since November 2017 for example. But yeah, it's weird they want to highlight a broken part of their game like they did for the dungeon finder. For example, BG queue is usually working but you still get 3/4 in team or get stuck in limbo or it kicks you then gives deserter penalty. Cyrodiil in general just has all the bugs lol. I went to help my friend get emperor on an empty campaign and even there I had trouble bar swapping and got some really long loadscreens. Everyone in group was commenting on server performance being only slightly better than Vivec (mostly because on PC NA you have 60+++ man raids from zergs like Army of the Pact)0 -
Deedleqwerty✭✭✭✭✭Now chat is bugged.
Seriously, ZOS. Preparation would keep customers happy instead of irritating them.~Deedleqwerty [PS5] / NA / EU
CP 3294 NA / CP 1661 EU
Aldmeri Dominion - Wardevils
See you in Cyrodiil1 -
Deedleqwerty✭✭✭✭✭Deedleqwerty wrote: »Other than the Queue lengths, I don't understand players complaining about the performance during this event. Now, I am not saying there aren't performance issues in Cyrodil. There are, but those issues are independent of this event. Pop Locked Vivec performance will be the same before this event and during this event and after this event. It is the same number of players in either instance in Cyrodil. So the lag is the same lag that PVPers have been dealing with during prime time hours every single day anyways. This event is not making the performance worse because it is not increasing the population cap.
ZOS apologist talking nonsense.
I pvp every day, and I can tell you that on the NA PS4 server, this is much much worse.
It's purely to do with pop then as I've had zero issues in shor all night.
People want zerh vivec, i get that. Then they need to accept lag. If folks just spread out they get a better experience. Small scale is way more fun anyway but during event we have ok pop.
Just spread out.
But players are players, follow the same pattern. And half of them aren't playing PvP they zerging for AP rather than enjoy a decent fight. Hey ***.
Shor is the baby campaign for PvE folks. Serious PvP folks play Vivec. ZOS knows this. During non-event periods Shor is empty, because everyone knows Vivec is the place to be.
Yeah. If all you want is event tickets, then sure, Shor or some other campaign. But if you want PvP Vivec is the only real server.
And it's broke.~Deedleqwerty [PS5] / NA / EU
CP 3294 NA / CP 1661 EU
Aldmeri Dominion - Wardevils
See you in Cyrodiil1 -
OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Deedleqwerty wrote: »Deedleqwerty wrote: »Other than the Queue lengths, I don't understand players complaining about the performance during this event. Now, I am not saying there aren't performance issues in Cyrodil. There are, but those issues are independent of this event. Pop Locked Vivec performance will be the same before this event and during this event and after this event. It is the same number of players in either instance in Cyrodil. So the lag is the same lag that PVPers have been dealing with during prime time hours every single day anyways. This event is not making the performance worse because it is not increasing the population cap.
ZOS apologist talking nonsense.
I pvp every day, and I can tell you that on the NA PS4 server, this is much much worse.
It's purely to do with pop then as I've had zero issues in shor all night.
People want zerh vivec, i get that. Then they need to accept lag. If folks just spread out they get a better experience. Small scale is way more fun anyway but during event we have ok pop.
Just spread out.
But players are players, follow the same pattern. And half of them aren't playing PvP they zerging for AP rather than enjoy a decent fight. Hey ***.
Shor is the baby campaign for PvE folks. Serious PvP folks play Vivec. ZOS knows this. During non-event periods Shor is empty, because everyone knows Vivec is the place to be.
Yeah. If all you want is event tickets, then sure, Shor or some other campaign. But if you want PvP Vivec is the only real server.
And it's broke.
It's broke because everyone is trying to jump into it instead of going to other campaigns. They should just take away the que system, that will spread some guilds out and make more campaigns competitive and have great fights.0 -
Zathras✭✭✭✭✭MusekininKanchou wrote: »MusekininKanchou wrote: »Deedleqwerty wrote: »The servers aren't ready for the load. Lag is brutal. Blue screes and black screens are constant.
Why do this to your customers? It does nothing but breed ill will.
I did mine this morning in the off hours. Super quiet. No issues for anything, and I was in and out with my event tickets.
I did not use Vivec, rather the low pop no CP one.
Thank you. I cannot understand why non pvp-ers are willing to wait in 100+ queues just to get repeatedly run over by experienced players. If you want to try out pvp, Vivec is not the place to do it. Especially during an event. I really don't care that much for cheap kills.
^ Agree. I'm just there for the daily tickets, and they've made it fairly painless and quick to achieve that with all the options available.
My caveat here is that I also know how to move around, so that helps to avoid trouble. Stay off roads, break up your LoS with rocks and trees, pause every now and then to look around to see if anyone is near. Those sorts of things. I also look at the map for hotspots to avoid, and listen to chat in case gankers are out.
Nice, why don't you pvp. You sound like you'd do ok. Don't get me wrong I don't want to discourage anyone from trying PVP but the events are not the way to try it. To me overland PVP is about the group experience. Finding the right group is what makes it fun, but during the events you won't find it. The regular groups that are willing to take people from zone are likely half empty if they haven't just given up completely and switched instances. To really try PVP in Vivec go on an average week. Watch zone chat guild advert like SOTP or PRPVP if you're EP. I don't do other alliances but in general the guild recruiting from zone are going to be patient with new people. Follow Crown and nobody is going to yell at you. Eventually you'l find a group you fit with no matter if you're 20 or 60. I'm 48 and I feel like one of the kids in SOTP. If we killed you there is a good chance you just got pwned by someone's grandmother. Possibly great grandmother.
I have PvP'd, but not in this game. DAoC, some on the Zek servers in EQ, and in vanilla WoW. I've been thinking of it for ESO, but have another in-game project I'm working on atm.For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen. - Douglas Adams
It is a rare mind indeed that can render the hitherto non-existent blindingly obvious. The cry 'I could have thought of that' is a very popular and misleading one, for the fact is that they didn't, and a very significant and revealing fact it is too. - Douglas Adams0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭'s why I quit in november 2018. Its a shame, I wanted to keep playing, but it really wasnt a possibility with the lagg thats been going on for years now. Game over.
PC EU
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Nebthet78✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Wow.. I have to say that yesterday the Vivec campaign wasn't so bad... today though, it is loading screen after loading screen after loading screen..... and they are 2 minutes long each....Far too many characters to list any more.0 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not ready for them???
Its an horrible insult against "players", pulled out an magblade, kind of healer build so I stuffed her in seducer and spc. even an monster set yes it was kind of blue and training but.
Enter Cyrodil, heal a lot, hitting enemies do an siege. All is nice but no quest so zerg take an town.
Do some town dailies, kill some goblins, run up to goblins dump AoE dies, repeat do it slowly does quest and silently pull out.
yes that build might need some work.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Ruinhorn✭✭✭✭You won't experience lags if you don't enter Cyrodii
l Edited by Ruinhorn on January 11, 2019 10:17PM1 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You won't experience lags if you don't enter Cyrodiil
What the actual *** do people not understand about going to other campaigns? I’ve being playing in Shor as well as the other two 7 day CP campaigns and I’ve had little to no lag, no queues and no loading screens and I play from Southeast Asia lol. I’ve had good 1v1s, 1vX, 2vX, keep defenses, medium sized battles. There has be no shortage of action.0
