He has some necromancer skills. He knew how to summon that flesh atronach and instructed you (me) how to do it. Then there's that famous "We'll make a necromancer of you yet" line.MLGProPlayer wrote: »Abnur Tharn is NOT a necromancer. He didn't engage in necromancy once in the story, nor did he ever allude to the fact that he may be one.
He's a daedra worshipper, and he's evil, but he's not a necromancer.
Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »I wonder if everyone who cries “OMG, necromancy is evil/shunned/illegal and therefore lorebreaking!” is a member of the Thieves Guild?
The only thing I hate about necromancy being tied to a class and not a skill line is that I have to grind Undaunted again. 😢
Grinding undaunted isnt bad. Grinding mages? At least for console players...thats bad
Grinding Undaunted is bad if you’re a PVPer and can’t convince anyone to spend a day or two grinding vet dungeon achievements. But yeah, Mages Guild grinding (and skyshard grinding, and Psijic grinding...) is also a PITA.
I am primarily a PvPer. Of my 8 characters I have 1 crafter, 1 PvE and the rest are PvP lol. Just came back to ESO so havent tried psyjic order yet. Heard its a lil annoying but doesnt take long
Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »I wonder if everyone who cries “OMG, necromancy is evil/shunned/illegal and therefore lorebreaking!” is a member of the Thieves Guild?
The only thing I hate about necromancy being tied to a class and not a skill line is that I have to grind Undaunted again. 😢
Grinding undaunted isnt bad. Grinding mages? At least for console players...thats bad
Grinding Undaunted is bad if you’re a PVPer and can’t convince anyone to spend a day or two grinding vet dungeon achievements. But yeah, Mages Guild grinding (and skyshard grinding, and Psijic grinding...) is also a PITA.
I am primarily a PvPer. Of my 8 characters I have 1 crafter, 1 PvE and the rest are PvP lol. Just came back to ESO so havent tried psyjic order yet. Heard its a lil annoying but doesnt take long
Were you ALWAYS a PVPer, primarily? I grinded out Undaunted on my characters before I PVPed, back when I still enjoyed PVE content and had friends who enjoyed running PVE content. All my friends now either are in Cyrodiil or BGs 24/7, and only run Undaunted dailies on occasion. You can level Undaunted in a day or two if you do all vet dungeon achievements, but there’s no way you’re doing that via the group finder, unless your character is a tank. Even then, queuing for specifc dungeons can take some time.
SydneyGrey wrote: »He has some necromancer skills. He knew how to summon that flesh atronach and instructed you (me) how to do it. Then there's that famous "We'll make a necromancer of you yet" line.MLGProPlayer wrote: »Abnur Tharn is NOT a necromancer. He didn't engage in necromancy once in the story, nor did he ever allude to the fact that he may be one.
He's a daedra worshipper, and he's evil, but he's not a necromancer.
I've always thought of him as a sorceror with some necromancy knowledge, not a full-blown necromancer.
You simply misread everything or refuse to understand it, that's all I have to say really.
I admit there COULD be dragons ? I never said there weren't any. From my first post on I made it clear, that there are dragons, obviously. But not groups of random dragons roaming the lands and presumibly causing havoc.
I also said that maybe they handle it like they did with the sloads in Summerset. That would be fine.
But once there are several dragons everywhere, it's getting really strange.
@Dracane
Actually, in your first post you said :There goes what was left of lore and logic.Real Dragons in ESO, which never happened and which was confirmed by ZoS to never happen. And undead chilling in all major towns and social hubs.
Sounds more like you're reimagining what you initially said as you go along to save face, when it's easy enough to just say "oops, my bad, I was wrong."As for Ayleids and Imperials in Blackmarsh. Yes, they were in black marsh. At the edge of it, not deep inside the jungle as pictured in Murkmire. Even the player character and the NPCs pointed out, they never knew Ayleids and an Imperial Legion made it this far into the marsh. Yes there they are and it was explained good enough I guess.
Actually, in your fifth post you said :ZoS found ways for Ayleids to be in Blackmarsh, Imperials to be in blackmarsh (which was never known before). It's new information, but it's not entirely impossible. You can set up everything to fit your agenda and without rewriting the lore. But that doesn't mean that you should. Dragons in Elsweyr is OBVIOUSLY a tool to attract buyers, nothting else.
So again you either mistyped, were mistaken, or are trying to reinvent what you actually meant as you go and find contradictory evidence. And you are again incorrect either way. From the very first mention of Blackrose in the lore, it was described as being deeper in the swamp, deeper than any non-Argonian had been before. It's not far from where the Imperials captured Red Bramman.And as for the Necromancy part, that is really just your opinion. If you want to make me believe that no culture has problems with Necromancy, than you are the one in need of refreshment.
Now who's "misread or refuse to understand" what the other person typed?Talk about strawmanning. I said that "various cultures around Tamriel have nothing bad to say about it", not that ALL cultures are fine with it. That's just confirmed lore. A far cry from what some others (not you) have said with how necromancers would be slain on sight. It's preposterous. Sure, more necromancers running around would no doubt draw criticism, but it's really not so universally despised that we should be worrying about some kind of lore or logic issue.
The post you talk about where I said that dragons never happened, I was arguing that I believe that dragons in Elsweyr were never supposed to happen and are made possible just to attract fans. All of this seems so opportunistic. Elsweyr+Dragons+Necromancy is basically everything people had asked for and ZoS knows they can profit. And I stick with it, Dragon masses and necromancy should not happen.
As for the rest, you are just too vague for me to bother dear.