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Can't wait to run a new class thru the same dry content
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✭✭✭i cant wait to run my sorcerer class with working shields
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kinguardian✭✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »
I loved both but of those zones but that is because I really like the normal questing. For me those 2 chapters were and still are a lot of fun. Although I can understand it from your perspective and zone like craglorn would be very welcome for a lot of players. I think you are right in that.
Thing is everybody likes something else in this game and I like that they offer that. For me craglorn is not my favourite zone but for others it is no need for me to say craglorn is boring. Just because that is my opinion doesnt mean it is someone else's.
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✭✭Just do dailies that give a lot of xp, and use an xp scroll. Better than doing the same boring quests over again.
I think random BG's, after the daily, give around 10k xp and you can level the alliance skill lines while you are at it if you need them.0 -
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✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »
I like all three of those zones. Though for the sake of variety a new Craglorn would be great, as long as it doesn't have any forced grouping mechanics.3 -
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✭Seraphayel wrote: »This content is amazing compared to any other MMO. What in the heck are you smoking?
All the new zones added to the game are just reskinned other zones. They're all the same with slightly different stories or landscapes. Heck even the amount of delves, open world bosses, public dungeons etc. is the same.
It's a scheme they used for the last 5 years which gets boring very fast because there is nothing new to see or do there. This game could really need an endgame zone with NEW things to do, similar to the former version of Craglorn. It was fresh and offered a new take on the usual ESO zones.
Neither Vvardenfell, nor Clockwork City, nor Summerset, nor Murkmire offered anything innovative or creative. That's the main gripe of OP imho.
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The problem I have is not the challenge but simply that the content is the same every time.Dry as desert bro
Have you ever played vanilla WoW? That *** is not dry. That *** keeps you constntly guessing, compared to ESO, a higher IQ level is required for the early game.
No, I'm being serious.
Even normies like to be tested, bro.
I enjoyed SWTOR for the fact that each class had its own story along with the main story, so you had something new to experience when playing it through. ESO sadly is literally the same content with meaningless choices every time.
Like, no joke, you're just right.
I praised this game for its combat system, which was unique, innovative, even groundbreaking in today's world of games which is mostly terrible but the game lacks variety within its single player content just take single player Elder Scrolls and add other people to it that's what needs to happen here like I've been arguing for this since 2002 since when ES: III Morrowind came out
I want to see ESO become great but there is a lot more content that needs to be added. And it needs to happen fast.
I just played TES3 again during holidays and despite i installed only one bug fixing mod and that i completed TES3 several times from 2003, I enjoyed it greatly. Dialog are not voiced, awful textures, no customization, quests are rather plain in their structure - but there is some unfathomable magic in all of it that keep you engaged and having fun. Morrowind from ESO is just a joke in comparison to TES3 and Morrowind is one of the best overland parts of ESO..
So I guess problem is that current ZOS team doesn't have specific ability or talent to make open world content, and it's not only them - it's 90% of modern open worlds which are boring af. And look on ESO dungeons - in contrast to overland content they are juicy, level design is great, voicing, quests - they are all very good and interesting, especially DLC ones. So if it's the same people doing dungeons and overland, they are simply lose focus when put out of linear content, like ton of other good devs do. Basically only bethesda and rockstar were able to create great open worlds.. well, new world computing delivered it properly too in M&M series but that was too long ago
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✭I will gladly roll a new toon and will play the game from first awakening in Cold Harbor.1 -
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✭✭✭Very confusing. The title of this thread "Can't wait to run a new class... " and then says, "I don't need and don't want new classes, I want a base game that is working, an updated Cyrodiil ".
New Player advise:
Grind! Grind! Grind! Once you hit level 10 level your characters in PvP. When you hit level 50... grind.. grind.. grind your CP. Do not do quests. After about 4 or 5 years or when you can't handle playing another minute of PvP then start questing.
Sounds like all those people that said, "Don't grind! level your characters through questing" are all bored or left. I haven't even started playing this game yet. Four years later, I still have an entire game to play.
Edited by vamp_emily on January 7, 2019 2:09PM
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MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭vamp_emily wrote: »Very confusing. The title of this thread "Can't wait to run a new class... " and then says, "I don't need and don't want new classes, I want a base game that is working, an updated Cyrodiil ".
New Player advise:
Grind! Grind! Grind! Once you hit level 10 level your characters in PvP. When you hit level 50... grind.. grind.. grind your CP. Do not do quests. After about 4 or 5 years or when you can't handle playing another minute of PvP then start questing.
Sounds like all those people that said, "Don't grind! level your characters through questing" are all bored or left. I haven't even started playing this game yet. Four years later, I still have an entire game to play.
Lol, nobody will believe you since you need undaunted passive anyway and so dungeon achievements are unavoidable. You probably got savior of nirn on your main.
Still i agree that questing is rather boring i force myself to complete one quest mark in a week just to finish game someday.. though they add new content faster then i do those quests so it's probably mission impossible. Still it's not quests themselves are bad, some are good.. it's overall pointlessness of completing overland.. if i wanna make quests i'll just switch to single-player game for a while so i can feel some honor and greatness etc without risk to break my jaw while yawning.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The only thing I could think of when I read the OP was why do they even care. I would not be playing this game at all if I felt the way the OP states they feel. So either it is heavily embellished or idk what it could be.6 -
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✭✭They need to do something about the Imperial City. Especially the sewers. I remember a time when annoying reds would be parked outside our door to try and gank us and had their behinds handed to them.
I went there today after ages, it's a ghost town. Not a soul.
I ran through till the center and no one. "Knee-jerk reactionist."
Lost Depths, 2015-2022.0 -
Jeezye✭✭✭✭✭The only thing I could think of when I read the OP was why do they even care. I would not be playing this game at all if I felt the way the OP states they feel. So either it is heavily embellished or idk what it could be.
Ohh I still have great fun rocking Cyrodiil with my buddies or smacking BGs every once in a while, but the lack of incentive to go back to Cyro/BGs and the countless bugs/lags/flaws are punishing me every time I try to seriously play the game.
So from my standpoint, introducing a new class will solve NONE of these problems and probably even make them worse.1 -
Jeezye✭✭✭✭✭vamp_emily wrote: »Very confusing. The title of this thread "Can't wait to run a new class... " and then says, "I don't need and don't want new classes, I want a base game that is working, an updated Cyrodiil ".
You didnt catch the sarcasm lol. I don't care for a new class because I'm forced to run the same dry content that I've done thousands of times and just doesn't entertain me anymore. Sure I can play the content of the new DLC, but chances are I'm just doing the same stereotype quests that every DLC offers and get bored of that questing really fast. Then there's dungeons, which are a challenge for the first 3-5 times but after that even Scalecaller/Bloodroot and others get easy and repetitive.
Unless there's sustainable content to enjoy (which I would have if PvP was actually working!!) there's no incentive for me to rock a new necrocancer. Edited by Jeezye on January 7, 2019 3:00PM0 -
DjMuscleboy02✭✭✭✭✭i absolutely love getting psijic leveled nothing is more excitingBrodor - PC NA - ESO's only pure bodybuilding guild
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✭✭✭New chapter = new content... I think..."Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"- Sons of the Night Mother | VforVendetta | Grownups Gaming EU | English Elders [PS][EU] 2500 CP
- Daggerfall's Mightiest | Eternal Champions | Legacy | Tamriel Melting Pot [PS][NA] 2300 CP
- SweetTrolls | Spring Rose | Daggerfall Royal Legion | Tinnitus Delux [PC][EU] 2525 CP
- Bacon Rats | Silverlight Brotherhood | Canis Root Tea Party | Vincula Doloris [PC][NA] 2300 CP
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Michaelkeir✭✭✭✭✭I've actually been waiting for the Necromancer class so I can replay the content as it's been years since I cleared everything fully.
The Skyshard and Guild Grind can be a little dull though.
Same I grinded to max lvl all my other classes except my main but I intend to redo the game with Necromancer and pick my stories. And now I'll have the right reason to work my butt off for the skin and personnality from Dragon bones.
I'm planned to do the same. Actually I got the Fanglair/Scalecaller necro skin and personality/ motifs when the dlc dropped plus the zombie horse because I just KNEW they would release the Necromancer class one day. And when the class drops I'm going to play through all the content again taking my time collecting skyshards and books and I'm going to love every second of it.1 -
Jeezye✭✭✭✭✭Michaelkeir wrote: »I've actually been waiting for the Necromancer class so I can replay the content as it's been years since I cleared everything fully.
The Skyshard and Guild Grind can be a little dull though.
Same I grinded to max lvl all my other classes except my main but I intend to redo the game with Necromancer and pick my stories. And now I'll have the right reason to work my butt off for the skin and personnality from Dragon bones.
I'm planned to do the same. Actually I got the Fanglair/Scalecaller necro skin and personality/ motifs when the dlc dropped plus the zombie horse because I just KNEW they would release the Necromancer class one day. And when the class drops I'm going to play through all the content again taking my time collecting skyshards and books and I'm going to love every second of it.
Everyone should know by now that the real endgame is RP, fashion and housing 3 -
MEBengalsFan2001✭✭✭✭✭Wifeaggro13 wrote: »Lol I was thinking same thing from a pve perspective. Tam one let's you explore more but the back end of this game with its flat shallow progression does not even give you incentive to play your other characters in the new chapter. Basically what they are charging you for is 50 bucks for necromancy. It's cheap tactic unless the add some new systems increase level cap or introduce new caps or trees in the gear system it's just gimmick sales.
This is the problem with any MMO when you play more than one character. I made the decision right from the start I will play only one character in ESO as there is more in this game to complete than other MMOs I have played and it is the first MMO where I can play any role with one class. I took a hard look at all roles and classes and what role I like to play the most and picked Breton Templar as it is good for magika based build for both DPS and healing. Not sure how it will hold up as a tank but I know it can be played as a tank and if it is hard to play it as a tank, even better I love a good challenge.
The other thing is that this game content plays very much like a solo player game and after doing it 1x I am not all that inclined to run it again and again and again. Other MMOs have shorter stories just to get players to play alts such as if you run a DPS as your main but your first two alts are a healer and than a tank. This way a player is not playing hours on end of content getting an alt to end game.
I know ESO uses CP and gear can be exchanged between characters. It does have its merit for end game alts but honestly getting to level 50 was more of a chore than something I enjoyed. Now that I have one character above 160 CP I honestly don't know how anyone can grind out other characters to level 50. One was bad enough but maybe it isn't as bad if you have a main that can craft XP gear, using XP booster and than leveling up the character during a XP event. Yeah that makes it easier but honestly with the ability to play all roles and the flexibility this game offers I see little to no point in playing more than one character.
I only play alts to have all roles and in ESO I don't need to play and alt to play all roles. So for me one character is all I need.
Edited by MEBengalsFan2001 on January 8, 2019 3:05PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭@MEBengalsFan2001 you can level to 50 in a few days just by doing overland content, side quests, public dungeons, dolmens, delves etc. Once you've done one char, you know the spots, how the game works, where the skill points are, what skills you want, how to get early level gear... I recently levelled my breton templar to 40, didn't even leave glenumbra or do mq, less than a week, just a few hours a day - - last 10 levels via dungeons, no power levelling, no heavy grind. Seriously, this complaint about the 50 level grind must be the biggest L2P issue in game
Edited by mairwen85 on January 8, 2019 5:58PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This content is amazing compared to any other MMO. What in the heck are you smoking?
Agree wholeheartedly
I don’t know what op is doing. I’ve been here for over 2 years and I’m still getting fresh stuff coming at me. Maybe because I don’t rush through zones? Not too long who I was sneaking along the rafters of a temple to get a hidden sky shard behind a wall— they did a great job playing with height in Hews Bane. I haven’t tried murkmire yet but I hear there is a memento that swings you up to high ledges like in Zelda. I mean dam Daniel you don’t even know what Elswhere will bring and already complaining.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭✭BGs are a great start to a small scale PvP system, but ZOS really should expand upon them imo. Right now there is a core system in place, but some changes are needed for long term sustainability. The first thing would be a 2 team game mode (6v6s?), which could then be added onto with stuff like seasons, rankings, guild tournaments, private matches, etc. BGs, as they are now, are really only the tip of the small scale PvP iceberg.1 -
MEBengalsFan2001✭✭✭✭✭@MEBengalsFan2001 you can level to 50 in a few days just by doing overland content, side quests, public dungeons, dolmens, delves etc. Once you've done one char, you know the spots, how the game works, where the skill points are, what skills you want, how to get early level gear... I recently levelled my breton templar to 40, didn't even leave glenumbra or do mq, less than a week, just a few hours a day - - last 10 levels via dungeons, no power levelling, no heavy grind. Seriously, this complaint about the 50 level grind must be the biggest L2P issue in game
Having grinded many character in other games, I have my reason to avoid playing alts.
In other games not named ESO I played all DPS classes, tank class and healer classes to end game and typically I was nearly always BiS for my main DPS, Tank and Healer with the rest of my alts not far behind those characters. After grinding out so many characters in so many MMOs I pulled myself back a bit in 2018. I went from all down to 3 roles and in ESO with even now less time to play I'm pulling myself down to one character.
I started my ESO character fresh in June 2018. I'm playing here and there and I'm around 160 CP. This is my first eso character I got to level 50 but not my first eso character.
My first eso character was Sorc, than I played a Templar with my wife and than when a buddy came along I played a nightblade. I did this when ESO first came out on PS4. I played for roughly 6 weeks and than we all went back to other games.
In 2017 I played ESO and got a DK up to level 40; got bored of the character. Tried a warden and quickly realize I didn't like how it performed and with my DK being also boring I moved onto another game.
I decided to give ESO another try and I'm liking it like I remember when I played my original Templar. The class suits my play style and since I don't need to create another character to play a DPS, tank or a healer there is no need for me to run alts. I just don't have the time like I did a few years ago. I also tried all the classes out and I only really like the Templar class and with having max bank and inventory space if I have an alt they are simply there as storage for my primary character.
I'm still playing another MMO besides ESO, the only reason I have time to play ESO is that I'm BiS and have nothing to work on in the other MMO and that is why I can spend time playing ESO. I also have a friend that is playing so it makes it easier to group up with someone; even though he is still trying to find the class that works best for him.
Don't grief on me because I don't want to play alts or believe there is no reason to grind an alt in eso. I played plenty of alts and eventually they lose their flare and become more like a chore than fun; and with so much content for me to still do and seeing how much I already completed; I have no desire to run any alt through the same thing. I'm content with playing just one character.
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Odnoc✭✭✭✭Then don't create a new character? Take a break? If you're doing something all of the time that you don't like, that sounds personal.1 -
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✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »Even as a PvE-only player, playing through the same content for the 15th time isn't fun or exciting.
To be fair you didn't need to play through 15 times. You only need 1 of each class at most. If you have ESO+ you won't have any inventory issues either.
That being said going through it 5 times is to many.
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✭I have the same problem leveling a new character every time.
Creating a characters appearance is fun
Creating an outfit is fun
Creating a Build and Rotation is fun
literally everything else about making a new character is boring and grindy and ive done it a dozen times over before.EU: Magden, Magknight, Stamsorc(*2), Magsorc
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Zardayne✭✭✭✭✭Just make sure you don't use CP, Don't use food or drink, wear only green drop armor, and use or or two skills. There will be no need for your second bar. A blindfold can also be used but that's optional. That should enable you to enjoy your new character with an increased challenge through the new and old overland content. If you tire of having the compass tell you exactly where to pick up the quest items, use the blinding technique which should give you hours upon hours of exploration. Have Fun!
Of course I'm J/K
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✭✭Just make sure you don't use CP, Don't use food or drink, wear only green drop armor, and use or or two skills. There will be no need for your second bar. A blindfold can also be used but that's optional. That should enable you to enjoy your new character with an increased challenge through the new and old overland content. If you tire of having the compass tell you exactly where to pick up the quest items, use the blinding technique which should give you hours upon hours of exploration. Have Fun!
Yeah no.1 -
exeeter702✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Vvardenfell and summerset were nice for the first time, but any seasoned player could through the entirety of those zones' offerings half awake with half a build. There is sinply no agency. And no amount of self imposed artificial handicap will remedy the lack of engagement those zones demand of players.
I understand the dilema when you have to create an overworld that adheres to the expectations and skill level of ALL players since everything scales, but the lack of any truly meaningful content that present a genuine danger or challenge outside of very specific instanced dungeons does get exhausting.
As i said before, if this next chapter is simply more of the morrowind and summerset approach, I will have a hard time sticking around for long. Aside from the egregiously easy overworld content, pvp needs a legitimate adrenalin boost.3 -
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✭Wifeaggro13 wrote: »Seraphayel wrote: »This content is amazing compared to any other MMO. What in the heck are you smoking?
All the new zones added to the game are just reskinned other zones. They're all the same with slightly different stories or landscapes. Heck even the amount of delves, open world bosses, public dungeons etc. is the same.
It's a scheme they used for the last 5 years which gets boring very fast because there is nothing new to see or do there. This game could really need an endgame zone with NEW things to do, similar to the former version of Craglorn. It was fresh and offered a new take on the usual ESO zones.
Neither Vvardenfell, nor Clockwork City, nor Summerset, nor Murkmire offered anything innovative or creative. That's the main gripe of OP imho.
Ya they are feeding off a churn population base. They have no intention of making a game for a long term community
AyeThey nerfed magsorcs so hard stamsorcs felt it,lol - Somber97866
I'm blown away by the utter stupidity I see here on the daily. - Wrekkedd1 -
AndyMac✭✭✭✭✭I’d definitely like to have a Necromancer alt but I’ve played since beta and have Tamriel Hero on two toons - so grinding a new toon is very hard to face.
A lot of zone content is OK once or twice - but has a severe repeatability issue after that lol. Content in this game gets old pretty fast.
Think I’m going to wait until a double XP event and stack a scroll.Andymac - Magicka DK - EP Grand Overlord - Flawless Conqueror0