Tandor wrote: »

Osteos wrote: »

It's funny and typical that most of the no votes didn't bother to actually read the post. They said more than once it would be a separate instance you would have to queue in to.
I like the idea of fighting in different zones. I also like the idea that the teams have to work together. Take too long inside and you risk your defenders falling. Defenders need to hold their ground long enough to give the team inside time to defeat the general.

That wasn't mentioned until post #10, and then only in an incidental reference to "the instanced zone". The title and opening sentence of the original post are much clearer in their suggestion that a random zone is used to merge PvE and PvP.

Actually pumpkin it was the 4th post and the 2nd by the OP. Also you could engage in discussion instead of always threatening to leave and take your ball home with you.

Can you actually imagine the zerg trains what would happen if everyone spawned on the same wayshrine, would be a bananas wet dream.

Oh how the OP will bring out the saltly tears of the singleplayer fanboys that dont understand what a 'mmo' is.

Pvp is great and as decent of an idea this is
One - zenimax dont have the technical know who to do this
Two - zeni jave shoqn over the last 4 years they have zero interest in anything pvp related
Three - the community that remains (anyone that wanted actual content have already left) seem to only want solo/single player content. Because i guess skyrim wasnt enough?

Good luck getting getting your ideas through though

MattT1988 wrote: »

A guild vs guild PVP concept would be good for the game, I personally wouldn’t go near it as I’m someone who detests ESO PVP. I don’t mind the idea of using the PVE zones as a backdrop for these providing they’re in its own instance and doesn’t impact the PVE we already have. I’d support any idea that makes PVP in this game better on the strict condition that it doesn’t impact any current or future PVE content. I may hate PVP but I see the bigger picture of trying to lure some of those disillusioned PVP players back. I’m really not onboard with the idea of combining PVE and PVP though. I just don’t think it works in this game, I know a small niche crowd likes Imperial City but in my mind it just doesn’t work for ESO.

Bhaal5 wrote: »

Oh how the OP will bring out the saltly tears of the singleplayer fanboys that dont understand what a 'mmo' is.

@Bhaal5 Don’t try to be a trolling keyboard Warrior trying to provoke fights on the Internet. It really doesn’t suit you. I remember you from Bogan days and, nah it’s not you.

But about what you said, you’ve got to remember that just because someone doesn’t like PVP in this game, doesn’t make them a single player fanboy. PVE co-op is probably the main reason I play and last time I checked, you can’t do that in Skyrim.

Zenimax need to implement more content in general and i also remember zenimax advertising a "cyrodiil war" not a glorified boxing match with empty campaigns.

But if there was more content to actually do in eso, (guild missions/content large pve meta events, replayable overland events/mission, even dungeons with user set difficulties for greater rewards etc) there'd be less hate on their forums and community in general would be less salty towards one another.

Think 1 pvp based dlc content per year wouldnt be to hard to ask so ALL paying customers get a bit of something they want and may even bring back customers (may have to fix their server issues aswell but baby steps).

Osteos wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Osteos wrote: »

It's funny and typical that most of the no votes didn't bother to actually read the post. They said more than once it would be a separate instance you would have to queue in to.
I like the idea of fighting in different zones. I also like the idea that the teams have to work together. Take too long inside and you risk your defenders falling. Defenders need to hold their ground long enough to give the team inside time to defeat the general.

That wasn't mentioned until post #10, and then only in an incidental reference to "the instanced zone". The title and opening sentence of the original post are much clearer in their suggestion that a random zone is used to merge PvE and PvP.

Actually pumpkin it was the 4th post and the 2nd by the OP. Also you could engage in discussion instead of always threatening to leave and take your ball home with you.

Re-reading the 4th post you're right, there was a reference to queuing for it.

Feel free to point out where I threatened to leave and take my ball home with me. I made no such threat, and did engage in the discussion by suggesting that any such idea if implemented should be done in Cyrodiil by agreement with the guilds involved.

I've acknowledged my error, perhaps you'd be so kind as to acknowledge yours.

Honestly just an idea, I never imagined it would start a salt fight, this is half the problem with eso at the minute the entire community is divided, pvp and pve are only looking out for themselves. When will all you folk realise the reasoning for the feeble attempts at balancing in this game is because of the split community,

it's like getting cowboys and Indians together for thanksgiving, 1 side is always going to get the sweet potato pie and the others going to get turkey carcass, see past blanket nerfs, granted zenimax has had more success recently pinpointing out certain sets and abilities but the balance will never be there, the idea of a game mode like this was to get pve and pvp working together in a fun new fresh way rewarding for all, unnaffecting cyrodil bgs or casual pve questers, hell even make it alliance specific instead of guild, cap the instance at 80 players per alliance and make it a 5 man end portal, ease the numbers for the server

The day this game meets a proper balance is when everyone puts aside their own agenda and look at the game as a whole, maybe then zenimax will take issues serious and address the problems that are effecting players. Instead of the typical ""This killed me NERF it to the ground"" 5000 threads you see

This may come across as salty but not the intention just please why can't we all just get along? instead of arguing ......"""pve got this nerfed for pvp lets get this nerfed for them"" and vice versa Lockhold everyone's stuck in.

Again this may not be the best way to incorporate a pve and pvp joined effort but a thought none the less, also I think it would be cool duking it out in different pve zones******instanced******** with honest to god objectives

Seenoevil wrote: »

Honestly just an idea, I never imagined it would start a salt fight, this is half the problem with eso at the minute the entire community is divided, pvp and pve are only looking out for themselves. When will all you folk realise the reasoning for the feeble attempts at balancing in this game is because of the split community,

it's like getting cowboys and Indians together for thanksgiving, 1 side is always going to get the sweet potato pie and the others going to get turkey carcass, see past blanket nerfs, granted zenimax has had more success recently pinpointing out certain sets and abilities but the balance will never be there, the idea of a game mode like this was to get pve and pvp working together in a fun new fresh way rewarding for all, unnaffecting cyrodil bgs or casual pve questers, hell even make it alliance specific instead of guild, cap the instance at 80 players per alliance and make it a 5 man end portal, ease the numbers for the server

The day this game meets a proper balance is when everyone puts aside their own agenda and look at the game as a whole, maybe then zenimax will take issues serious and address the problems that are effecting players. Instead of the typical ""This killed me NERF it to the ground"" 5000 threads you see

This may come across as salty but not the intention just please why can't we all just get along? instead of arguing ......"""pve got this nerfed for pvp lets get this nerfed for them"" and vice versa Lockhold everyone's stuck in.

Again this may not be the best way to incorporate a pve and pvp joined effort but a thought none the less, also I think it would be cool duking it out in different pve zones******instanced******** with honest to god objectives

The separation of the PvP and PvE play and communities is a natural division. There is nothing wrong with it as they address the variety of players of the game by more or less meeting both play styles.

The attempt by ZOS to balance combat as a single environment is not natural. Most of the acrimony you perceive would go away if ZOS would just split combat balancing so that PvP has its own unique combat balance and likewise PvE has its own unique combat balance. By addressing the needs of each play style as a unique thing a needed change in one will no longer have unintended consequences in the other.

I don't like PvP in any form but you risk losing a good sized chunk of the player base without it. Losing players regardless of their preferred play style is bad for any game. To this end I've always tried to take an agnostic approach that if it doesn't affect the way I play then why not improve something to make another players experience better. Unfortunately with the coupling of combat balance between PvP and PvE I can't take that approach as any change made for PvP can affect my game play and visa versa for PvP players.