On a serious note, I think capes were in the game at the very beginning....but they caused major lag and were never made into the final cut on release if my memory serves me right.

Royaji wrote: »

No. No they can't. Engine limitation. Stop beating the dead horse.

Squeaky wheel gets the grease. Considering all the pixel crack flashy wavey items coming out of the clown shop the past how many years, gonna take a stab in the dark and say engine limitation is an excuse you heard.

Baconlad wrote: »

In zenimax defense here...the cyrodil animals were removed in part because back when meteor was THE ULTIMATE everyone used, players complained hard about stray squirel 20 meters away from ur target taking the rock from the heavens...you didn't even see the squirel...it wasn't your fault man...

You guys remember the great meteor spam of 2016? Guilds would run into a keep mashing meteor, every one would do it...it would take up to a minute for one ability fire off the server was so slow...funny stuff. Entire factions standing on flags taking zero damage not being able to flip...

That's pretty funny, there were all sorts of stray animal targeting issues even in dungeons. Sometimes to the benefit of the player with sets like??? Vampire kiss maybe? And probably others.

ArchMikem wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

That is a REALLY gruesome death. Quick though.

Naw. The superhero lives through it. It's a terrifying death for the plane's occupants.

Zelos wrote: »

Contrary to popular belief a Cape was shown on a heavy armor user fighting a skyrim Giant in the beta footage of the game. It's possible they just dont want too.

Well, in Alpha they had capes, and irc the first beta, but they were horrible and didn't function properly, so they were removed for the rest of beta and live.
There are lots of threads and even a couple of ESO Lives that address why capes will not be implemented.
Sooooo, no to capes/cloaks.... Sorry..

idk wrote: »

There is one cape in game and there will not be another. iirc, the Bretton hero costume has the cape but it lays flat.

Zos has said they will not add capes to the game.

The Breton hero costume isn't a cape. It's glued to your character's body (it doesn't actually flow), which is why it looks so ugly in-game.

They had capes in an early build of the game but removed them because they broke performance (this game runs on a POS engine).

In one of the gameplay trailers there was characters wearing capes. I believe imperial and Redgaurd heavy armour came with a cape. But the physics would be a waste of resources at the moment and I don’t think capes are really a thing in ES.

Could be possibly implemented but turned off in PvP.

Nestor wrote: »

Jacozilla wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

No. No they can't. Engine limitation. Stop beating the dead horse.

So an ancient MMO like EQ2 has engine that does capes just fine, with peak population back when it was popular far greater than ESO, and you're playing the 'engine limitation' card?

Fine - let's say it is limit of crappy ESO engine, that could very well be a factual statement. But also plain facts is much older generation MMOs managed capes just fine and no reason ESO, with competent programming, could not do so as well.

It is a factual statement, the game engine does not support something like cloaks and capes. It has nothing to do with the age of the engine, but how it was written.

Now, since you brought up EQ2, that game is no where near as detailed as ESO is, graphics in that game are flat, ugly and low resolution. When everything in the game looks like crap painted on wooden placards, it is probably easy to put a cape in there given it does not have to look good. And, yes the capes and cloaks in EQ2 look like crap. Not sure why you would want those in this game anyway.

"Not sure why you would want those in this game anyway" - why do people like/want hats? You could just as effectively argue hats, skins, etc are just as superfluous as capes. Or costumes, dyes, ad infinitum - your least effective reply here is this.

Re: EQ2 graphics - if you compare EQ2 then quality of graphics to modern standards, sure - pretty subpar, perhaps even "crap" as you allege.

But we're not comparing EQ2 to modern standards - by the old era standard when EQ2 was current MMO, it had pretty good graphics - not top notch because no MMO goes cutting edge, it's always 1-2 notches below whatever is mainstream for broadest audience, but really good for it's time.

So I repeat - EQ2 for that era had good graphics + animated capes ---- there is no reason technically why ZOS could not have programmed an engine to allow for capes. Whether the engine currently can or not is irrelevant - that's circular logic, 'capes can't be done because the engine doesn't support it' - the point is by modern standards ESO is either unwilling or unable to do what an ancient MMO did with as good a quality as you'd expect by that older standard.

Jacozilla wrote: »

"Not sure why you would want those in this game anyway" - why do people like/want hats? You could just as effectively argue hats, skins, etc are just as superfluous as capes. Or costumes, dyes, ad infinitum - your least effective reply here is this.

Who said anything about hats? I am talking about the Capes. The capes you can get in this game, nobody wants, the capes you want, make the game a slide show. The other things your talking about don't load the game up so it is a slide show when there are other players in the world. So, not sure what your argument is there.

Bottom line, game engine can't handle it. If you know so much about game design and coding, come up with a game engine that allows capes and everything else this game does, and let ZOS use it. Oh, and give them a few million dollars to recode the entire game to the new engine so that you can have your capes.

starkerealm wrote: »

Chaos2088 wrote: »

On a serious note, I think capes were in the game at the very beginning....but they caused major lag and were never made into the final cut on release if my memory serves me right.

Correct. There's an alpha video out there from ZOS featuring a character wearing a cape. The issue appears to be that, "a cape" is fine, but when you have players scampering all over the place, that's too much for your rig to handle.

Now have the fun factor of capes without clipping trough weapons on back of any style and interact with tails.
Yes it can be used in single player games, now add them into Cyrodil zergs and they become an root on peoples having frame rate issue there.
Perhaps an fat cat pvp guild you need an 4Gz cpu and an 1080 to join and have to use cape and other bling in pvp
You now negated most of the enemy reaction time so you can simply burn them.

Jacozilla wrote: »

So I repeat - EQ2 for that era had good graphics + animated capes ---- there is no reason technically why ZOS could not have programmed an engine to allow for capes. Whether the engine currently can or not is irrelevant - that's circular logic, 'capes can't be done because the engine doesn't support it' - the point is by modern standards ESO is either unwilling or unable to do what an ancient MMO did with as good a quality as you'd expect by that older standard.

Actually, it is only a technical reason. DX9 had a bone limit that greatly restricted the ability to animate the characters. While they did have capes early in development, and apparently some of that is still in the rigging, they cut capes to make other technical decisions possible or easier to implement, like weapon docking, first person weapon textures.

When they fully drop DX9 and completely re-rig the game animation, they can add capes. That is not something I expect they will budget for.