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Request: Asian servers

pkuronen
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Are we going to have asian servers anytime?
  • Banana
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    I bet every dime i have. No
  • idk
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    Oceanic servers have also been requested.

    Considering Zos did not see fit to add servers outside of the two regeons we currently have I would not expect them to add them now with the significantly smaller playerbase we have now than 4 years ago.

    It comes down to cost vs benefit. I doubt the population of the game and expected additional players would support a third server. Of course Zos is the one with the numbers, not me.
  • jrgray93
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    I sincerely doubt it. They haven't shown an interest in investing in improvements like that in a very long time. A lot of people demand server upgrades already, but they'd really have to just rewrite a lot of the code to fix the issues that raise those complaints. Cyrodiil probably isn't as simple a problem as "better servers." Nonetheless, more servers seems very unlikely.

    This game has mostly reached the point of being finished from a technical standpoint. They're more interested in maximizing profits with the creative types than actually improving the experience. To prove this, you don't need to look any further than the fact that they keep designing zones and dungeons that exceed the capabilities of the engine. See the performance disaster that was Dragonbones at launch...

    As for another region, that would further segment the population. I don't know what kind of numbers we could expect to shift, but I imagine it wouldn't be healthy for the game. We already have region and platform splits.
    Edited by jrgray93 on December 27, 2018 7:46AM
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  • TheYKcid
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    As a Southeast Asian player who endures 250-320 ping playing on PCNA, I honestly would still stick with the NA server.

    The ostensible lack of English speakers, lowered population and smaller economy wouldn't outweigh the slightly improved ping, imo.

    In any case, as a game with a 1s GCD and a pseudo-queue system for abilities, ESO is entirely playable with 300+ ping, even at a high level.
    Edited by TheYKcid on December 27, 2018 8:11AM
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  • Tandor
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    idk wrote: »
    Oceanic servers have also been requested.

    Considering Zos did not see fit to add servers outside of the two regeons we currently have I would not expect them to add them now with the significantly smaller playerbase we have now than 4 years ago.

    It comes down to cost vs benefit. I doubt the population of the game and expected additional players would support a third server. Of course Zos is the one with the numbers, not me.

    By general consent the overall population is markedly up, not down, on 4 years ago - unless you're specifically talking about the Oceanic population only, I've no idea how that has trended.

    The problem with adding servers to cover a local population is that it isn't just "a third server" as you describe it, it's a "third set of servers". A local population such as the Oceanic players may be numerous in total, but when you split them between the different platforms do they represent a viable total across three servers? That should be the main concern for both ZOS and the players themselves.
  • sadlythebest
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    I would love this, but i doubt its ever gonna happen.
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  • bharathitman
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    I am from Asia and I play on the EU server and get around 180-190 ping. IMHO creating an asiatic server is a very bad idea since there are not that many ESO players in Asia. This would affect the guilds and the economy and the world will be very empty. I wouldn't join if they even made one and so would the other asian players that I know
  • Perwulf
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    ESO NA will die. No.

    Edit: NA
    Edited by Perwulf on December 27, 2018 10:01AM
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  • phairdon
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    Not going to happen. My point of view - Oceanic or SEA servers would have existed when the game launched.
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    I can hit 50k easily if it happen ;)
  • Jameliel
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    TheYKcid wrote: »
    As a Southeast Asian player who endures 250-320 ping playing on PCNA, I honestly would still stick with the NA server.

    The ostensible lack of English speakers, lowered population and smaller economy wouldn't outweigh the slightly improved ping, imo.

    In any case, as a game with a 1s GCD and a pseudo-queue system for abilities, ESO is entirely playable with 300+ ping, even at a high level.

    Bruh they can put servers in Asia and Oceanic regions without making a new mega server for each. The ping issues we suffer are routing issues since no servers...Then on top they use a wacky service to prevent ddos attacks.
    Edited by Jameliel on December 27, 2018 10:06AM
  • Perwulf
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    I am from Asia and I play on the EU server and get around 180-190 ping. IMHO creating an asiatic server is a very bad idea since there are not that many ESO players in Asia. This would affect the guilds and the economy and the world will be very empty. I wouldn't join if they even made one and so would the other asian players that I know

    What Asian country is that if you don't mind me asking, I just find it unbelievable.

    Edited by Perwulf on December 27, 2018 3:38PM
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  • midgetfromtheshire
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    IMO I don't think Oceanic/Asian servers are warranted with what little population we have, even during our prime time. I would love to have one considering I sit on 280 on the best of days.
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  • Tandor
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    Jameliel wrote: »
    TheYKcid wrote: »
    As a Southeast Asian player who endures 250-320 ping playing on PCNA, I honestly would still stick with the NA server.

    The ostensible lack of English speakers, lowered population and smaller economy wouldn't outweigh the slightly improved ping, imo.

    In any case, as a game with a 1s GCD and a pseudo-queue system for abilities, ESO is entirely playable with 300+ ping, even at a high level.

    Bruh they can put servers in Asia and Oceanic regions without making a new mega server for each. The ping issues we suffer are routing issues since no servers...Then on top they use a wacky service to prevent ddos attacks.

    I'm not sure about Akamai's contribution to this. I now play on the PC NA (which reportedly has Akamai) and PC EU (which reportedly does not) servers from the UK and to my surprise I find there is zero difference in the performance on them.
  • MattT1988
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    Would love Asian/Oceanic servers, then I might be able to do trials without crashing every five seconds.
  • EvilAutoTech
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    MattT1988 wrote: »
    Would love Asian/Oceanic servers, then I might be able to do trials without crashing every five seconds.

    No, you won't. Even playing in NA on the NA server, we have people crashing out of trials all the time.

    I rarely run trials but even I have seen wipes from people crashing. We regroup, re-invite and move on. But the crashes will always be there
  • Salvas_Aren
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    Why would they purchase servers when they don't even employ game masters?

    They will never ever bear a single dime of sunk costs any more.
  • bharathitman
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    Perwulf wrote: »
    I am from Asia and I play on the EU server and get around 180-190 ping. IMHO creating an asiatic server is a very bad idea since there are not that many ESO players in Asia. This would affect the guilds and the economy and the world will be very empty. I wouldn't join if they even made one and so would the other asian players that I know

    What Asian country is that if you don't mind me asking, I just find it unbelievable.

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  • idk
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    Jameliel wrote: »
    TheYKcid wrote: »
    As a Southeast Asian player who endures 250-320 ping playing on PCNA, I honestly would still stick with the NA server.

    The ostensible lack of English speakers, lowered population and smaller economy wouldn't outweigh the slightly improved ping, imo.

    In any case, as a game with a 1s GCD and a pseudo-queue system for abilities, ESO is entirely playable with 300+ ping, even at a high level.

    Bruh they can put servers in Asia and Oceanic regions without making a new mega server for each. The ping issues we suffer are routing issues since no servers...Then on top they use a wacky service to prevent ddos attacks.

    Yes, they can it is extremely unlikely Zos would open a mega server for only one platform.

    Regardless, as I pointed out before the business metrix are very likely long gone for a third mega server. The game population is a fraction what it was in the first year (no, the game is not dying) and there is likely insignificant justification for expanding.

    It has to make business sense and I can hardly see that being the case.
  • TempPlayer
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    I once heard that even the EU server is located in NA and they just get a better line connection to EU from there. If that is the case, I wonder how is the lag in EU?
    If that is like close to 200, having an Asia server won't do us much good cause they may just create an Asia only server in NA like the one for EU, which ends up that the package still need to travel half way around the earth and the lag is not gonna get much better. Maybe improve a bit but hardly like playing next to a local server.
  • idk
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    TempPlayer wrote: »
    I once heard that even the EU server is located in NA and they just get a better line connection to EU from there..

    @TempPlayer

    This was not the case. At launch the both the NA and EU servers were located near the Zos offices in Maryland for ease of access since a lot was going on. No special effort was made to help players on EU during this time. This lasted about a month or two as intended.

    After a short period of time both servers were relocated. NA was moved to middle USA and EU was moved to Europe.

    Crossing the Atlantic I have a ping between 200 and 250. Doubtful Zos would find a need to do anything special for that time as it would offer little benefit.
    Edited by idk on December 28, 2018 7:45AM
  • Oberstein
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    More servers and game will become more popular!
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  • Riverlynn
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    Oberstein wrote: »
    More servers and game will become more popular!

    Dude, are you necroing threads again?

    Wasn't last time enough?
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  • Oberstein
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    Riverlynn wrote: »
    Oberstein wrote: »
    More servers and game will become more popular!

    Dude, are you necroing threads again?

    Wasn't last time enough?

    What do you mean?
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    I mean bringing back old threads so you can say 'yes' or 'no' or 'I agree'.

    If you're trying to get forum stars, its not done on volume - just sayin'. ;)



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    Trumpets, towers and tenements, wide oceans full of tears.
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  • Oberstein
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    Riverlynn wrote: »
    I mean bringing back old threads so you can say 'yes' or 'no' or 'I agree'.

    If you're trying to get forum stars, its not done on volume - just sayin'. ;)



    I don't see any 'yes' or 'no' or 'I agree' and you are off-topic. Feel free to create new topic and discuss your problem there buddy.
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  • NoMoreChillies
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Jameliel wrote: »
    TheYKcid wrote: »
    As a Southeast Asian player who endures 250-320 ping playing on PCNA, I honestly would still stick with the NA server.

    The ostensible lack of English speakers, lowered population and smaller economy wouldn't outweigh the slightly improved ping, imo.

    In any case, as a game with a 1s GCD and a pseudo-queue system for abilities, ESO is entirely playable with 300+ ping, even at a high level.

    Bruh they can put servers in Asia and Oceanic regions without making a new mega server for each. The ping issues we suffer are routing issues since no servers...Then on top they use a wacky service to prevent ddos attacks.

    I'm not sure about Akamai's contribution to this. I now play on the PC NA (which reportedly has Akamai) and PC EU (which reportedly does not) servers from the UK and to my surprise I find there is zero difference in the performance on them.

    you only notice Akami nonsense when you are from OC. From UK you wouldnt notice if your routed through Akami Netherlands, but from OC its 999+ ping spikes frequently.
    Insulting people on the internet is cowardly.
  • Chirru
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    pkuronen wrote: »
    Are we going to have asian servers anytime?

    Yea!

    I want to learn Chinese; Korean and Japanese...also Thai and...whatever :)
  • qbit
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    Let's spin up some more VMs for all regions. And the next gen ones not those patched for spectre and meltdown CPU bug because those are slow.
    Edited by qbit on January 13, 2019 11:22PM
  • russelmmendoza
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    No. Just no.

    Migration and *** will be so ubearable.

    They couldnt handle 2 servers youre asking for a 3rd.

    Seriously. No!
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