Youtube Builds - Can We Stop Please?
Lab3360
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This idea that only builds from youtube From Alcast and Asian are the only builds that can work in the game, is an assertion of idiocy.
I cant believe how infected the community has become by this idea.
There are sooo many different ways to reach the dps, healing and tanking in this game people.
We really need to turn this around. I recently had some guy tell me in Cloudrest that my tank build was a trash build and I should off tank. I was on with a Sorc Magika Tank with frost staff. He mocked me while I was off mic as he said "I want to be different and not use a build from youtube" (voiced in sarcastic non masculine voice)
I was flabbergasted by the sheer stupidity of this guild leader. I then mic'ed up and asked him, "why is this a trash build?"
He responded, "how are you going to taunt when you get interrupted with staff HA?" I responded, "Um inner fire"
He then asked, "when you run out of magika?" I said "I dont because my recover is at 1800 and I have tri pots and conversion"
Then the last thing I said to him was this,
"Youre an idiot who is incapable of thinking for yourself. You should listen to how stupid you sound when you say that a "Youtube Build" is the only way to get the job done. I feel sorry for youre guild because you hold them back.
My builds are better than youtube.
They all wiped from because theyre guild could not execute downstairs correctly.
Adds everywhere. Guess whonwas still standing.
I ended it with this, I could pick you up. But Inwont tank for an idiot.
Then I left.
Guys, Gals, if you are going to watch youtube, please study "The where" and "The Why" something works. Analyze the build in separate elements. The builds are for illustrative purposesonly.
Not one Youtube says this is the only way.
I have seen a lot of builds from people who value theyre builds soo much, they refuse to put the build on youtube. Its okay to think for yourself. Its okay to design youre own build as long as it is effective .
Edited by Lab3360 on December 24, 2018 6:32PM I cant believe how infected the community has become by this idea.
There are sooo many different ways to reach the dps, healing and tanking in this game people.
We really need to turn this around. I recently had some guy tell me in Cloudrest that my tank build was a trash build and I should off tank. I was on with a Sorc Magika Tank with frost staff. He mocked me while I was off mic as he said "I want to be different and not use a build from youtube" (voiced in sarcastic non masculine voice)
I was flabbergasted by the sheer stupidity of this guild leader. I then mic'ed up and asked him, "why is this a trash build?"
He responded, "how are you going to taunt when you get interrupted with staff HA?" I responded, "Um inner fire"
He then asked, "when you run out of magika?" I said "I dont because my recover is at 1800 and I have tri pots and conversion"
Then the last thing I said to him was this,
"Youre an idiot who is incapable of thinking for yourself. You should listen to how stupid you sound when you say that a "Youtube Build" is the only way to get the job done. I feel sorry for youre guild because you hold them back.
My builds are better than youtube.
They all wiped from because theyre guild could not execute downstairs correctly.
Adds everywhere. Guess whonwas still standing.
I ended it with this, I could pick you up. But Inwont tank for an idiot.
Then I left.
Guys, Gals, if you are going to watch youtube, please study "The where" and "The Why" something works. Analyze the build in separate elements. The builds are for illustrative purposesonly.
Not one Youtube says this is the only way.
I have seen a lot of builds from people who value theyre builds soo much, they refuse to put the build on youtube. Its okay to think for yourself. Its okay to design youre own build as long as it is effective .
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Enemy-of-Coldharbour✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Alcast's builds are for noobs and lazy players who don't want to do a little bit of research. Even he does not use them. There is a reason why Alcast and Hodor don't post their 'personal' builds.
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »Alcast's builds are for noobs and lazy players who don't want to do a little bit of research. Even he does not use them. There is a reason why Alcast and Hodor don't post their 'personal' builds.
Jesus Christ Brother. Thank you for being a voice of reason!
I feel like im in The Dam Twilight Zone with some of these people.22 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »Alcast's builds are for noobs and lazy players who don't want to do a little bit of research. Even he does not use them. There is a reason why Alcast and Hodor don't post their 'personal' builds.
Jesus Christ Brother. Thank you for being a voice of reason!
I feel like im in The Dam Twilight Zone with some of these people.
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »Alcast's builds are for noobs and lazy players who don't want to do a little bit of research. Even he does not use them. There is a reason why Alcast and Hodor don't post their 'personal' builds.
Jesus Christ Brother. Thank you for being a voice of reason!
I feel like im in The Dam Twilight Zone with some of these people.
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Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I agree. I was looking for ideas for a stam dk pvp build. I was blown away as 99% of stam dk builds came down to two variations....fury/bone pirate, or 7th legion/fury.
That's it...no diversity at all. I went through channel after channel..same sets. It was unreal.
I can't believe every single DK in pvp are running these two sets. But according to youtube, no other sets exsist for stam dk.
Good thing I come up with my own builds, but as far as garnering ideas...none were to be had.Edited by Kel on December 20, 2018 12:14AM10 -
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✭✭✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »Alcast's builds are for noobs and lazy players who don't want to do a little bit of research. Even he does not use them. There is a reason why Alcast and Hodor don't post their 'personal' builds.
QFT
Any build really worth something you will be paying for, and at that, those builds are usually a cancer build, some sort of broken mechanic that makes it stupid easy for a moderately experienced player to abuse.
There are NUMEROUS successful builds out there, find one that works with your playstyle, a lot of builds are useless to many players because they do not support how they play.
Edited by Skwor on December 20, 2018 11:40AM11 -
Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It is a real community issue. The game has more play as you want but it wasn't originally designed that way. So both of types of groups often fight with each other. Though lately it's becoming more fierce.6 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭I agree. I was looking for ideas for a stam dk pvp build. I was blown away as 99% of stam dk builds came down to two variations....fury/bone pirate, or 7th legion/fury.
That's it...no diversity at all. I went through channel after channel..same sets. It was unreal.
I can't believe every single DK in pvp are running these two sets. But according to youtube, no other sets exsist for stam dk.
Good thing I come up with my own builds, but as far as garnering ideas...none were to be had.
Seriously Bro. I mean it when I say
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LordGavus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah some people are clowns.
My friend got kicked from a vet scalecaller peak run for using a frost tank. He was wearing the peak scaler title at the time
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »Alcast's builds are for noobs and lazy players who don't want to do a little bit of research. Even he does not use them. There is a reason why Alcast and Hodor don't post their 'personal' builds.
QFT
Any build really worth something you will be paying for, and at that, those builds are usually a cancer build, some sort of broken mechanic that makes it stupid easy for a moderately experienced player to abuse.
There are NUMEROUS successful builds out there, find one that works with your playstyle, a lot of builds are useless to many players because it doe snot support how they play.
My point exactly. Why try to play similar to someone who does not think like you do?5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I am thinking why in high-end tanking double S&B considered "must have" etc... with ice staff on one of bars you receive more powerful 2H crusher enchantment, so for min-maxers S&B + ice staff should be default?3 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭MilwaukeeScott wrote: »
Thank you bro. I honestly could not believe it when I heard it.3 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »I am thinking why in high-end tanking double S&B considered "must have" etc... with ice staff on one of bars you receive more powerful 2H crusher enchantment, so for min-maxers S&B + ice staff should be default?
To me they are not Min Maxers. They are
"Overly Obsessed.
They want sb on both bars. But tolerate Staff on back bar.
You are correct in youre assessment. Its youre build. Play as to youre combat mechanic.Edited by Lab3360 on December 20, 2018 12:25AM1 -
Krayl✭✭✭✭✭You had me until you started getting all aggressive and then asserted "My builds are better than youtube" and admitted to getting into childish name-calling bouts.
Although I try different builds for myself and agree that we shouldn't just assume that if someone is running something different, they aren't any good, these builds that Alcast and others put out are great for newer players learning the game to get into a viable build. There is a LOT to this game, having a starting point that is proven to work is not a bad thing.
Being the 'last man standing' doesn't prove anything other than that you're good at pushing some buttons. Congrats on surviving a long time like every other tank in the game? Nothing is as annoying to those of us who have tanked in many a game than the tank who thinks he's legit because he 'lives a long time' long after his/her group is dead.
Tanks should be leaders calling the shots, so if you're confident in your tanking ability/ build and the group was failing, the correct option would be to explain the fight to the group regardless of one annoying person rather than engaging in a name calling session and ducking out making 10 other people left standing around because you couldn't ignore one person.Edited by Krayl on December 20, 2018 12:25AM52 -
Slack✭✭✭✭✭Telling people to stop copying builds from YouTube, is like taking away the shepherd from a horde of crazy sheep
-They start a rampageEdited by Slack on December 20, 2018 12:28AMPC EU
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mattaeus01b16_ESO✭✭✭✭If I have to hear "Why arnt you wearing Ebon and Alkosh" One more time. Im gonna, IM GONNA ... probably do nothing, cause I really couldnt care less.13 -
Aebaradath✭✭✭✭✭
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The biggest problem with this is that the majority of sheeple don't care about the 'The How' and 'The Why' something works. They'd rather just blindly follow a "build" and run their mouth when someone runs something different, a unique build, because they cannot fathom the notion that other builds can work/perform just as well or even better.Guys, Gals, if you are going to watch youtube, please study "The where" and "The Why" something works. Analyze the build in separate elements. The builds are for illustrative purposesonly.
Not one Youtube says this is the only way.
I've had plenty of run-ins with those "if you don't use YouTuber X's build, you will never do vet trials, pull "high" DPS numbers, be a proper tank, etc, etc." players and leaders from guilds, trial groups, and whatnot. I just leave because it's not worth the time and energy to try and convince them otherwise; they're too set in their sheeple dumber-than-a-bag-of-hammers ways.9 -
Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭You had me until you started getting all aggressive and then asserted "My builds are better than youtube" and admitted to getting into childish name-calling bouts.
Although I try different builds for myself and agree that we shouldn't just assume that if someone is running something different, they aren't any good, these builds that Alcast and others put out are great for newer players learning the game to get into a viable build. There is a LOT to this game, having a starting point that is proven to work is not a bad thing.
Being the 'last man standing' doesn't prove anything other than that you're good at pushing some buttons. Congrats on surviving a long time like every other tank in the game? Nothing is as annoying to those of us who have tanked in many a game than the tank who thinks he's legit because he 'lives a long time' long after his/her group is dead.
Tanks should be leaders calling the shots, so if you're confident in your tanking ability/ build and the group was failing, the correct option would be to explain the fight to the group regardless of one annoying person rather than engaging in a name calling session and ducking out making 10 other people left standing around because you couldn't ignore one person.
My builds are better than youtune because theybare for me. Youtube builds are not good to boot.
And yes, I am aggressive. Im going to be aggressive when it come to this topic. Someone has to stand up. Too many people being bullied because of
Youtube Buildz.
As far as tanks being the last one standing. Wow are you wrong. Seen lots ofnyoutune tanks go down. Also when you're pugging as a tank and youre running with different guild than youre own, youre not always going to lead and command. Did you not here the part of off tanking btw?
I think youre offended somewhere deep inside. Dont know why. Dont care.Edited by Lab3360 on December 20, 2018 12:34AM6 -
LiberatorSam✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »I am thinking why in high-end tanking double S&B considered "must have" etc... with ice staff on one of bars you receive more powerful 2H crusher enchantment, so for min-maxers S&B + ice staff should be default?
It is S+B + lightning. S+B x2 or S+B + ice for learning/beginner tanks for end game content. You can do whatever you want in normal, I main tanked nCR+3 in my 7 medium 20k health StamsOrc runner/crafter.
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Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭mattaeus01b16_ESO wrote: »If I have to hear "Why arnt you wearing Ebon and Alkosh" One more time. Im gonna, IM GONNA ... probably do nothing, cause I really couldnt care less.
That is a different issue. Why is DPS burn the most important way to play? What happened to tactics or rewarding points for doing something different?
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Lab3360✭✭✭✭✭LiberatorSam wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »I am thinking why in high-end tanking double S&B considered "must have" etc... with ice staff on one of bars you receive more powerful 2H crusher enchantment, so for min-maxers S&B + ice staff should be default?
It is S+B + lightning. S+B x2 or S+B + ice for learning/beginner tanks for end game content. You can do whatever you want in normal, I main tanked nCR+3 in my 7 medium 20k health StamsOrc runner/crafter.
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LordGavus✭✭✭✭✭
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I wish. Before the first pull they said "ice tanks are useless"
He responded with "I've done this a bunch of times, I'm even wearing the title now"
They said no and kicked him.
Its not even that uncommon of a build,
Snb front, staff back.4
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