Can’t bear levelling more than one of each class

Aurielle · December 2018

Anyone else feel the same way? I’ve been playing this game for several years now, and I simply cannot seem to bear levelling up stamina and magicka versions of each class. It is just so mind numbingly boring. I made five new alts recently to FINALLY try to have one of each class (especially since I’ve been thinking of making a BG build site), but I just couldn’t bear to level any of them beyond 36 and deleted all but two of them. I’ll probably delete the last two as soon as I can.

How do you keep alt levelling fresh for yourself? How do you slog through Undaunted/Fighter’s Guild/Mage’s Guild/Skyshards for the umpteenth time? How do you afford to keep all your alts kitted out in decent gear? I regularly see people here saying that they have 14+ characters and I’m all... HOW?

Hoolielulu · December 2018

I don't know how anyone else does it either.

Two days ago I created a fourth, a NB Khajiit and I swear she's going to be my last one. And she's going to do whatever she wants without feeling pressure to go go go get those things done! My main will give her armor and foodstuffs until I get around to leveling her up because for real...I have three others I've been slamming out and some days it's rough. Eventually I hope I'll get to a point where I'll play one because I feel like that build instead of "ugh I really need to work on this one."

Edziu · December 2018

well as for player of endgame content or jsut pvp players this game is horribly alt unfriendly

in 4 years of playing I have lvled 8 character - in it is ofc my main, 2nd character I took to atleast 75% playable state maybe after 2 years playing this game and 3rd alt in 60% I have done around 1-2 months ago while no I have it at 95% playable state

rest characters are only lvled and magaziners with many missing skillpoints at which I lost rest of my interest to lvl guilds etc (created in time between 1 yeah of playing until now)

*character playable state - viability to do endgame and/or pvp without need to respec every day if want to play different style/mode on this char so how much gathered skillpoints and lvled guilds, skillines etc

EDIT: over all this time I have played only on my main, my 2nd char I was played very rarely and now my 3rd (and last lvled to playable state) char Im playing mostly as go realy bored and burnt out of playing same class/main nonstop

Mancombe_Nosehair · December 2018

Doing more than one at a time is probably why you are finding it so tough.

Doing different things to level up is a way I use. I do a random normal, a battleground (to get war horn etc) no more than 10 dolmen a day, and some delves. Quests too.

Try to think of it as levelling skills instead. What you really want is a level 50 character with weapons etc maxed out, or the character will be quite weak.

I hope this helps.

Diminish · December 2018

I have 11 (maybe 12?) characters. I have the bare minimum for them. I don't craft on them. I don't upgrade armor on them. I don't refine mats on them. I only get mages guild leveled up on the ones who will actually benefit from it. If they don't PvP, I don't worry about anything PvP related. I level undaunted slowly and do not go out of my way to do it. Gear is often gold "hand-me-down" gear that I have tried with previous builds of characters over time.

I have dedicated PvP characters, and dedicated PvE characters, and they never do content that the characters weren't built for. With the ever changing meta, ever changing sets, etc. it is actually very easy to gear out alts to make them viable (enough) for running them through content. The real kick in the balls is training your mount... again. Worse design choice I ever saw in this game other than the crown store is the fact that your account bound mounts all the sudden forget how to run fast, carry more items, and wear armor with a new character.

daemonios · December 2018

I have 10 characters, all level 50, though I don't play all of them actively. I leveled them mostly by clearing a zone before heading off to the next, doing at least: zone story quest, all delves, public and group dungeon, skyshards, guild quests and main story quest. I did skip dialogues after the first time.

It's not the fastest grind, but 1-50 takes about a week at most without putting in too many hours, and you do get plenty of skill points so you don't have to grind all of them on purpose. I also find I don't get burned out as easily as, say, when grinding XP by doing the same thing over and over like I tried to do in the old days of vet levels. If you've never leveled a character from VR1 to VR16, you don't know what grind is.

Aurielle · December 2018

luton0watford4 wrote: »

Doing more than one at a time is probably why you are finding it so tough.

Doing different things to level up is a way I use. I do a random normal, a battleground (to get war horn etc) no more than 10 dolmen a day, and some delves. Quests too.

Try to think of it as levelling skills instead. What you really want is a level 50 character with weapons etc maxed out, or the character will be quite weak.

I hope this helps.

Trying to level up multiple characters is part of the problem, I agree... but the sheer repetitiveness of the stuff you have to do to be “viable” is what really gets me.

Even doing it all again on ONE more character (let alone five) just irritates me.

I was at one point dreading the thought of the upcoming racial rebalancing, but after trying and failing yet again to level up some alts, I’ll welcome it with open arms if it means I can create viable magicka AND stamina builds without having to cough up cash for a race change.

Really, what I want is to be more flexible with the characters I currently have. I’d love to be able to theorycraft and test multiple magicka AND stamina builds — not just limit myself to one or the other for the sake of avoiding the same old grind and saving some money.

Aurielle · December 2018

Diminish wrote: »

I have 11 (maybe 12?) characters. I have the bare minimum for them. I don't craft on them. I don't upgrade armor on them. I don't refine mats on them. I only get mages guild leveled up on the ones who will actually benefit from it. If they don't PvP, I don't worry about anything PvP related. I level undaunted slowly and do not go out of my way to do it. Gear is often gold "hand-me-down" gear that I have tried with previous builds of characters over time.

I have dedicated PvP characters, and dedicated PvE characters, and they never do content that the characters weren't built for. With the ever changing meta, ever changing sets, etc. it is actually very easy to gear out alts to make them viable (enough) for running them through content. The real kick in the balls is training your mount... again. Worse design choice I ever saw in this game other than the crown store is the fact that your account bound mounts all the sudden forget how to run fast, carry more items, and wear armor with a new character.

Yup, forgot to mention that in my OP. Having to seek out skyshards again without addons is bad enough as it is. Doing it on a character that only has rapids and five mount speed levels learned, though? When you’re used to zipping around on characters that have maxed out mount speed training? Pure torture.

VaranisArano · December 2018

I have Alt-itis for roleplaying ideas.

Most of my alts came about because I had a good character idea like "AD veteran of the Three Banners War comes home and has to save Summerset" or "Imperial legionnaire escaped the sack of IC and now works for Abnur Tharn."

Then I pick which storylines they'll do. In the case of my Nord StamDK, she did Eastmarch and The Rift as her storyline. The Imperial mentioned above did the Pact storyline because they are the weakest alliance amd thus they'll be the easiest for the Imperial loyalists to defeat in the future.

That's usually enough to give them a solid start on leveling. I can also kit them out as tanks and run normal dungeons during events for extra exp.

If I need more skill points after that, I run for dungeons/skyshards. And gold...isnt a problem for me, so getting them passable CP 160 is pretty easy.

What I dont do is grind the same quests or the same ring-around-the-dolmen cycle over and over again.

Aurielle · December 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

I have Alt-itis for roleplaying ideas.

Most of my alts came about because I had a good character idea like "AD veteran of the Three Banners War comes home and has to save Summerset" or "Imperial legionnaire escaped the sack of IC and now works for Abnur Tharn."

Then I pick which storylines they'll do. In the case of my Nord StamDK, she did Eastmarch and The Rift as her storyline. The Imperial mentioned above did the Pact storyline because they are the weakest alliance amd thus they'll be the easiest for the Imperial loyalists to defeat in the future.

That's usually enough to give them a solid start on leveling. I can also kit them out as tanks and run normal dungeons during events for extra exp.

If I need more skill points after that, I run for dungeons/skyshards. And gold...isnt a problem for me, so getting them passable CP 160 is pretty easy.

What I dont do is grind the same quests or the same ring-around-the-dolmen cycle over and over again.

Doing the same repetitive thing is definitely part of the problem for me... but I don’t see any other way to level efficiently.

Literally the ONLY reason why I want to level alts is to have magicka and stamina versions of each class for the purpose of trying different PVP builds. Before I can even TRY out new builds on said alts, though, I have to spend days or even weeks doing stuff I’ve already done on five other characters.

There are less alt-friendly games out there than ESO, I know, but... still. I really wish racial choices didn’t have such a significant impact on stats.

I’d love to be able to try out magicka and stamina builds on each of my characters without feeling gimped.

AndyMac · December 2018

I have 3 toons - one main, one crafter and one alt. My main and crafter are both Tamriel Hero - so overland questing is hard to face lol. I did the bare minimum for my alt.

I’m leveling a tank and I left it until the double XP event to start. That and daily reward scrolls are making basic levelling easy enough - he’s level 26 after a couple of days on and off. Getting the PvP stuff is fun for me. He has Vigor, caltrops and warhorn all done.

I have the add ons for destinations, lore books and sky shards - so doing a scenic tour to grab those is kind of fun on a new toon with a new play style.

I don’t think I’d want to do 10 though

Sylvermynx · December 2018

I have 15 girls - one each of each class, in the different variations (except for stamsorc - I couldn't see how to make a stamsorc work with the pets, and that was a real downer for me). I mostly do the same stuff on them - crafting writs, exploration for xp since questing in this game with my horrendous lag is just not real effective.

For me though, each of them is an individual. So when out and about on one of them, I'm in HER mindset - and she doesn't know anything my others know. I realize that's something most won't get, but it works fine for me. I have.... an unusual turn of imagination perhaps.

As I'm playing each girl, I'm running a whole RP story in my mind.... One of these days I'll have to find somewhere to post some of it.

MartiniDaniels · December 2018

Leveling to 50 is not a problem. Leveling undaunted, psijic, mage guild - that's the pain on new alt.

myskyrim26 · December 2018

@Aurielle
I have a problem that might be similar to yours. I might be crazy, but I'm never satisfied with my character. I have a master crafter - this is why she's still "alive", everything learnt, too much time invested. But other chars... I level one to max, get my CPs. But I don't like him. I start over again, and level him. And I feel bored doing same things, but I know I need Fighter's Guild, or Mages Guild, and all that Skyshards... I'd rather have them account-wide. Even if for crowns, as it is SO BORING to do it again!
Some time ago I decided to pass on leveling and Skyshards. I said: let it be as it is. No rush. Enough. Really tired.
And well - other MMO games give an opportunity to pay for a levelled char! Applied to ESo, this should be something like:
- you pay and create a 160 CP character
- you have all skillpoints for your levels available
- you still have to collect the Skyshards and do quests giving skillpoints
I'd love to get my new chars in this way.

Hoolielulu · December 2018

I don't mind the skyshards, I like going to places I'm not required to go to for any other reason. The guilds though...ugh. I just took up the thieves guild so I could start selling items for gold. The other guilds I may never get around to.

dem0n1k · December 2018

It can be a tedious grind to get the shards & lorebooks, etc... but it's totally do-able . I have a magicka & stamina version of all 5 classes (all char slots filled.. so a few duplicates) & I can't even remember how many characters I leveled to 50 then deleted them to make room for new characters :P I've had about 5 stam wardens that I leveled to 50 in Kyne campaign, horse speed leveled to 60... deleted them all!

Like most things in life that are a bit of a grind... keep the goal in sight & don't let the enormity of the grind ahead dissuade you!

Aurielle · December 2018

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Leveling to 50 is not a problem. Leveling undaunted, psijic, mage guild - that's the pain on new alt.

Precisely. Levelling to 50 is the easy part. It’s the stuff that comes after that I dread. That and mount levelling.

myskyrim26 wrote: »

@Aurielle
I have a problem that might be similar to yours. I might be crazy, but I'm never satisfied with my character. I have a master crafter - this is why she's still "alive", everything learnt, too much time invested. But other chars... I level one to max, get my CPs. But I don't like him. I start over again, and level him. And I feel bored doing same things, but I know I need Fighter's Guild, or Mages Guild, and all that Skyshards... I'd rather have them account-wide. Even if for crowns, as it is SO BORING to do it again!
Some time ago I decided to pass on leveling and Skyshards. I said: let it be as it is. No rush. Enough. Really tired.
And well - other MMO games give an opportunity to pay for a levelled char! Applied to ESo, this should be something like:
- you pay and create a 160 CP character
- you have all skillpoints for your levels available
- you still have to collect the Skyshards and do quests giving skillpoints
I'd love to get my new chars in this way.

On one hand, I agree, but on the other... while levelling to 50 is annoying and time consuming, it’s not the MOST annoying and time consuming aspect of creating a new alt. I hate levelling Undaunted. I hate levelling FG. I just want to PVP and don’t care about dungeons or trials. I have to slog through all of that BS for the umpteenth time, though, if I want to try a stamNB again.

SignsOfTheTimes · December 2018

11 max leveled 1089cp, 4 max undaunted, 5 max 6writ crafters, 6 meteors......,8 dawny, all max stam and riding....pretty mind numbing

Aurielle · December 2018

dem0n1k wrote: »

I've had about 5 stam wardens that I leveled to 50 in Kyne campaign, horse speed leveled to 60... deleted them all!

It actually physically hurt me to read that, haha. All that work for nought...

Actually_Goku · December 2018

Aurielle wrote: »

Anyone else feel the same way? I’ve been playing this game for several years now, and I simply cannot seem to bear levelling up stamina and magicka versions of each class. It is just so mind numbingly boring. I made five new alts recently to FINALLY try to have one of each class (especially since I’ve been thinking of making a BG build site), but I just couldn’t bear to level any of them beyond 36 and deleted all but two of them. I’ll probably delete the last two as soon as I can.

How do you keep alt levelling fresh for yourself? How do you slog through Undaunted/Fighter’s Guild/Mage’s Guild/Skyshards for the umpteenth time? How do you afford to keep all your alts kitted out in decent gear? I regularly see people here saying that they have 14+ characters and I’m all... HOW?

I feel you. I find it laughable when people complain about having to get to level 5 assault for vigor on their alts, but have magicka-based alts, where you have to get 10 levels of Mages guild more often than not

I’ve had countless alts up to CP, but I end up deleting them for one reason or another. I’m a bit of a purist, and even though I’ve played since console launch, I’ve only unlocked around 25% of the achievements, and I haven’t gave emperor a really good push yet, either (it doesn’t help that it’s a bought and paid/traded for commodity these days) so I find it hard to rationalise doing another alt when I’m not even a third the way through the zone quests, achievements etc

Not to mention the cost in gold, hours, grinding etc.

I’ve just accepted that I can’t be bothered managing any more than 3 characters. I have a Nord tank who is my crafter, and is used strictly for dungeons and crafting. And I have a Mag Sorc, and Stam Warden who I do a little of everything on. I suck at NB, so don’t bother with it, ditto for Templar.

I’ve burnt myself out, left the game and then came back about 6 times, and the root of it is rolling alts. So I don’t do it, anymore.

Bhaal5 · December 2018

I cant "bear" either, will stick to being human.

Kiralyn2000 · December 2018

Even if you don't want to finish leveling a character & can't imagine leveling more alts... why would you ever delete what you've already done?

It's not like you have to pay monthly rent on the filled character slot, or are required to play each one every week. And they can always be used as mules for extra storage; do some extra crafting writs if that's your thing; extra fencing capacity if you need to steal for some extra gold; dragged out for events where extra characters can be handy; etc.

tl;dr - unless you need the character slot to make a new character in, why would you ever delete a character?

Aurielle · December 2018

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Even if you don't want to finish leveling a character & can't imagine leveling more alts... why would you ever delete what you've already done?

It's not like you have to pay monthly rent on the filled character slot, or are required to play each one every week. And they can always be used as mules for extra storage; do some extra crafting writs if that's your thing; extra fencing capacity if you need to steal for some extra gold; dragged out for events where extra characters can be handy; etc.

tl;dr - unless you need the character slot to make a new character in, why would you ever delete a character?

I take your point. I can’t speak for anyone else, but it just... I dunno, bugs me to see an incomplete character sitting in my character selection screen. It’s hard to explain. I don’t mind deleting characters I’ve leveled up to the 30s or even CP level, because they only represent a couple day’s worth of dolmen grinding. The characters I absolutely cannot delete are those that have levelled Undaunted and/or Mages Guild, as it represents a more significant and more annoying time investment. I only keep low level alts around during the anniversary event for the purposes of doing low level writs, and then delete them after the event is over. Ordinarily, I can only stand doing writs on my main crafter. Even then, it’s a chore. Doing repetitive stuff in MMOs has become increasingly annoying to me. I just want to PVP on different characters and have fun, but the grind involved in getting more characters to a competitive point is so unbearable as to limit me to my five core characters.

I wish there was a way to streamline the entire levelling process.

Other MMOs I’ve played have had purchasable accelerators for different aspects of the levelling process — not just blanket XP accelerators. I would love to be able to speed up Undaunted levelling with a token or whatever. Failing that, I would love to be able to freely spec between magicka and stamina on a character WITHOUT gimping myself on one of the two specs due to racial passives.

Turelus · December 2018

General leveling I don't mind too much, I can just dungeon run with friends and chat. It's all the extras you have to do such as guild skill lines, shard farming etc. which drives me crazy.

Gnozo · December 2018

I do have 13 chars on level 50 cause a Level 50 grind takes me max 6 hours but after the grind comes the real pain.

Skyshards, lore books, undaunted (hate this the most and its soooo important) and psijic. Would pay money to skip this cause i already done it 7 times and its boring as hell.

I even made a thread about it, suggesting to put some skip-what-you-already-done-76446773-times but mostly only got negative feedback from forum warriors.

Jeremy · December 2018

Aurielle wrote: »

Anyone else feel the same way? I’ve been playing this game for several years now, and I simply cannot seem to bear levelling up stamina and magicka versions of each class. It is just so mind numbingly boring. I made five new alts recently to FINALLY try to have one of each class (especially since I’ve been thinking of making a BG build site), but I just couldn’t bear to level any of them beyond 36 and deleted all but two of them. I’ll probably delete the last two as soon as I can.

How do you keep alt levelling fresh for yourself? How do you slog through Undaunted/Fighter’s Guild/Mage’s Guild/Skyshards for the umpteenth time? How do you afford to keep all your alts kitted out in decent gear? I regularly see people here saying that they have 14+ characters and I’m all... HOW?

I'm the same way. I've tried too. I just hate it too much. Not going to happen.

Aurielle · December 2018

Gnozo wrote: »

I do have 13 chars on level 50 cause a Level 50 grind takes me max 6 hours but after the grind comes the real pain.

Skyshards, lore books, undaunted (hate this the most and its soooo important) and psijic. Would pay money to skip this cause i already done it 7 times and its boring as hell.

I even made a thread about it, suggesting to put some skip-what-you-already-done-76446773-times but mostly only got negative feedback from forum warriors.

I also hate the Undaunted grind the most. Maxing Undaunted passives is CRUCIAL if you want a competitive character. It just pains me to run through all those vet dungeons for the achievements AGAIN, when I have done each of them literally hundreds of times. If you don’t have a group of like-minded people who also want to level Undaunted, you’re left at the mercy of the group finder. Good luck if you’re queued as a DD with a 45+ minute queue time for a single dungeon! It takes so freaking long.

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Everstorm · December 2018

To each their own but why on earth did you delete those chars? Why not just park them and pick it up at a later time?

Aurielle · December 2018

Everstorm wrote: »

To each their own but why on earth did you delete those chars? Why not just park them and pick it up at a later time?

Already answered that. I just hate seeing them in my character list, knowing that I’m not going to want to play them until they have max Undaunted passives, etc., and knowing that I just can’t bear to slog through Undaunted again.

I thought when I created these new alts, since I have some vacation time at the moment, that I could maybe bear to slog through it all again (I haven’t done a dungeon or grinded skyshards in MONTHS), but I was wrong. It’s just too boring to do again, and I’m feeling at this point that it always will be. It boggles my mind that ZOS has not done more to make alt levelling more bearable, considering how long ESO has been around. Shared CP is nice, but that’s IT.

heaven13 · December 2018

Probably not helpful since your goal of multiple characters is different than mine but my characters are all "individual". I usually create them from an idea, like VaranisArano said earlier. I play them here and there but since I don't need them for anything specific or immediate, sometimes they sit and I just log in for horse training before doing something on someone else. Then, by the time I want to play them, they end up having a riding stat or two maxed.

I did delete one that was at maxed horse stats because I just hated her. I can't even remember what her class was; I had only created her because she'd been a character on my old account that I'd never gotten around to playing so I thought I'd remake her and play her but she never had a backstory which made her too blank and boring for me to bother with.

Everstorm · December 2018

Sorry, skipped through the replies too fast then. But now it looks just as hopeless as when you started to the point you even bring it up on the forums.
And shared CP is not the only thing, lately they have been bombarding us with exp scrolls. Coupled with training gear it really doesn't take that long to get to 50.
If you dislike questing then yeah, it's gonna be a chore. But you can start wherever you want, mix it up a bit.
Undaunted and mage/fighter skill lines take quite long but you don't need them to make a character viable.