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Thanks for everything but performance has destroyed everything. GL everyone and merry christmas!

Lifecode666
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Hello fellow gamer's!
I just wanted to put down a few last words.
This amazing game has been the only game on my PC since release.
I played both alpha and beta, if i remember correct ;-) (it's been awhile since that time now) and have loved the journey.
watching Sypher, Deltia and Alcast +++ journey through the game has been epic, and making so many friends in the small Norwegian guild (500 Companions) was wonderful and I will never forget this game.
What a journey it's been and holy balls how much great PVP it has been, but now the performance is so bad and the game is unplayable.

There isn't more to say really.
It makes me sad actually to see that they can't fix this game because it could have been bigger than wow if they focused on the right things, and for the hardcore player base that still stick around and believe in Zenimax! Have fun and never say never..
I have installed ESO now and finally I have time for other games.
Merry christmas!

Zenimax! if you read this then thank u for this game, but you need to do something about servers and game performance.
For this 40 year old, norwegian veteran it is to late.
GL!
Up the hornz
  • Vildebill
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    So, about your stuff...
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  • Bam_Bam
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    Upgrade your connection/system.
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  • Grimm13
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    Look another I'm quitting thread.... in b4 lock
    https://sparkforautism.org/

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  • Mureel
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    Vildebill wrote: »
    So, about your stuff...

    We can has?
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    Make sure to buy some Crown Crates.
  • boggo
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    See you tomorrow!
  • ArchMikem
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    I give it a week.

    A month tops.
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  • SantieClaws
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    Take a break from the killing perhaps?

    Just go for a walk, pick a few of the flowers.

    Perhaps spend some time by the pool at Claws Temple and Spa Resort?

    A change in pace is as good as a break no? Even if you find some things presently frustrating there might be other things you can still enjoy.

    Yours with paws
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  • Tigerseye
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    Well, you can always come back, if things improve, or if you change your mind.

    If any game is causing you more stress than it is enjoyment, then you are right to stop playing it.
  • miteba
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    Thanks for your feedback @Lifecode666
    and hope to welcome you again in a near future ;)
  • rafaelcsmaia
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    The guy comes to express his feelings about his experience and ppl say bullcrap about "oH aNoThEr iM QuIiTtIng ThReAd" or telling him to improve his connection, this wraps up 90% of eso community: 15 yo brats that cant have a mature conversation even if their lives depend on it.

    Btw i can relate, I have the best connection available in my country and ESO still lags, every other multiplayer runs smooth as heck.

    GL on your next games OP, hope you find one with more mature ppl and a company that actually cares for their customers
  • Vapirko
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    I took a break for a few months around Wolfhunter and before Murkmire. It helped a lot. Performance is insanely bad right now, don’t blame you.
  • CruelCult
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    Can someone explain what happened? Why he is living game?
  • miteba
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    15 yo brats that cant have a mature conversation even if their lives depend on it

    There are trolls everywhere! Best way is to completely ignore them, they will eventually grow up...
    Edited by miteba on December 10, 2018 10:59AM
  • jcm2606
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    The guy comes to express his feelings about his experience and ppl say bullcrap about "oH aNoThEr iM QuIiTtIng ThReAd" or telling him to improve his connection, this wraps up 90% of eso community: 15 yo brats that cant have a mature conversation even if their lives depend on it.

    Btw i can relate, I have the best connection available in my country and ESO still lags, every other multiplayer runs smooth as heck.

    GL on your next games OP, hope you find one with more mature ppl and a company that actually cares for their customers

    The truly sad thing is people like OP speak the truth, but because it is vaguely wrapped as an "I'm quitting" thread (which is kind of required to get the point across that crap like this can and does drive people to quitting), the thread is closed by the mods, halting the discussion then and there.
  • Mureel
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    jcm2606 wrote: »
    The guy comes to express his feelings about his experience and ppl say bullcrap about "oH aNoThEr iM QuIiTtIng ThReAd" or telling him to improve his connection, this wraps up 90% of eso community: 15 yo brats that cant have a mature conversation even if their lives depend on it.

    Btw i can relate, I have the best connection available in my country and ESO still lags, every other multiplayer runs smooth as heck.

    GL on your next games OP, hope you find one with more mature ppl and a company that actually cares for their customers

    The truly sad thing is people like OP speak the truth, but because it is vaguely wrapped as an "I'm quitting" thread (which is kind of required to get the point across that crap like this can and does drive people to quitting), the thread is closed by the mods, halting the discussion then and there.

    Of course the performance is bad for a lot of people but still- throwing your pacifier out of the crib won’t help at all.

    It’s a game; and people can take it or leave it. Simple.

    If you have performance issues post your PC specs, area, internet provider, explain exactly where, when, and what issues precisely that you’re having and give people any real, non hyperbolic data to deal with.

    The truth is that whilst this game has a whole host of issues; a LOT of people are running it on a toaster and expect it to make a Sunday Roast and do the washing up after.

    Make an insightful post with quantifiable data, so maybe anyone (users or Zos) can give some help.

    No, it’s not guaranteed to help, but it’s a lot more probable than ‘bah! Performance! I quit!’
  • jcm2606
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    Mureel wrote: »
    jcm2606 wrote: »
    The guy comes to express his feelings about his experience and ppl say bullcrap about "oH aNoThEr iM QuIiTtIng ThReAd" or telling him to improve his connection, this wraps up 90% of eso community: 15 yo brats that cant have a mature conversation even if their lives depend on it.

    Btw i can relate, I have the best connection available in my country and ESO still lags, every other multiplayer runs smooth as heck.

    GL on your next games OP, hope you find one with more mature ppl and a company that actually cares for their customers

    The truly sad thing is people like OP speak the truth, but because it is vaguely wrapped as an "I'm quitting" thread (which is kind of required to get the point across that crap like this can and does drive people to quitting), the thread is closed by the mods, halting the discussion then and there.

    Of course the performance is bad for a lot of people but still- throwing your pacifier out of the crib won’t help at all.

    It’s a game; and people can take it or leave it. Simple.

    If you have performance issues post your PC specs, area, internet provider, explain exactly where, when, and what issues precisely that you’re having and give people any real, non hyperbolic data to deal with.

    The truth is that whilst this game has a whole host of issues; a LOT of people are running it on a toaster and expect it to make a Sunday Roast and do the washing up after.

    Make an insightful post with quantifiable data, so maybe anyone (users or Zos) can give some help.

    No, it’s not guaranteed to help, but it’s a lot more probable than ‘bah! Performance! I quit!’

    And pretending the problem doesn't exist by simply saying "it's fine on my end" or "what are your specs" or "you have bad internet", or by having the thread locked will help any better?

    Insightful posts don't help. Has been tried before, Zenimax simply doesn't care. Just need to look at this thread. 7 pages of detailed feedback, of players doing Zenimax's job, and yet Zenimax not only ignores it, but refuses to do anything about it when questioned directly. This isn't even specific to performance, the same has happened in basically every part of the game.

    Insightful posts don't help. And neither does pretending the problem away, nor sweeping the problem under the rug.
  • Mureel
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    jcm2606 wrote: »
    Mureel wrote: »
    jcm2606 wrote: »
    The guy comes to express his feelings about his experience and ppl say bullcrap about "oH aNoThEr iM QuIiTtIng ThReAd" or telling him to improve his connection, this wraps up 90% of eso community: 15 yo brats that cant have a mature conversation even if their lives depend on it.

    Btw i can relate, I have the best connection available in my country and ESO still lags, every other multiplayer runs smooth as heck.

    GL on your next games OP, hope you find one with more mature ppl and a company that actually cares for their customers

    The truly sad thing is people like OP speak the truth, but because it is vaguely wrapped as an "I'm quitting" thread (which is kind of required to get the point across that crap like this can and does drive people to quitting), the thread is closed by the mods, halting the discussion then and there.

    Of course the performance is bad for a lot of people but still- throwing your pacifier out of the crib won’t help at all.

    It’s a game; and people can take it or leave it. Simple.

    If you have performance issues post your PC specs, area, internet provider, explain exactly where, when, and what issues precisely that you’re having and give people any real, non hyperbolic data to deal with.

    The truth is that whilst this game has a whole host of issues; a LOT of people are running it on a toaster and expect it to make a Sunday Roast and do the washing up after.

    Make an insightful post with quantifiable data, so maybe anyone (users or Zos) can give some help.

    No, it’s not guaranteed to help, but it’s a lot more probable than ‘bah! Performance! I quit!’

    And pretending the problem doesn't exist by simply saying "it's fine on my end" or "what are your specs" or "you have bad internet", or by having the thread locked will help any better?

    Insightful posts don't help. Has been tried before, Zenimax simply doesn't care. Just need to look at this thread. 7 pages of detailed feedback, of players doing Zenimax's job, and yet Zenimax not only ignores it, but refuses to do anything about it when questioned directly. This isn't even specific to performance, the same has happened in basically every part of the game.

    Insightful posts don't help. And neither does pretending the problem away, nor sweeping the problem under the rug.

    Don't infer your own nonsense from what I write, and then argue with your own inference quoting me like I implied it.

    A lot of times actual data HAS helped.

    Do some reading and research before you show yourself up.
    Edited by Mureel on December 10, 2018 11:59AM
  • MajBludd
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    Last night several zone posts (vivec na/pc) about how much of a PoS this game is because of the lag.
    Surely all those people can't have a bad connection or bad gear?

    I used to never get lag. After summerset, I get lag that ranges from 200-999. It's random and can be in pvp or pve zones.

    The pve zones baffle me the most because you dont have huge "zerg" groups in one location.
    Edited by MajBludd on December 10, 2018 12:09PM
  • Nerftheforums
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    They even just joked about people having lag. Not giving af is a way of life, and the core culture of zos. Nooooice!
  • jcm2606
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    Mureel wrote: »
    jcm2606 wrote: »
    Mureel wrote: »
    jcm2606 wrote: »
    The guy comes to express his feelings about his experience and ppl say bullcrap about "oH aNoThEr iM QuIiTtIng ThReAd" or telling him to improve his connection, this wraps up 90% of eso community: 15 yo brats that cant have a mature conversation even if their lives depend on it.

    Btw i can relate, I have the best connection available in my country and ESO still lags, every other multiplayer runs smooth as heck.

    GL on your next games OP, hope you find one with more mature ppl and a company that actually cares for their customers

    The truly sad thing is people like OP speak the truth, but because it is vaguely wrapped as an "I'm quitting" thread (which is kind of required to get the point across that crap like this can and does drive people to quitting), the thread is closed by the mods, halting the discussion then and there.

    Of course the performance is bad for a lot of people but still- throwing your pacifier out of the crib won’t help at all.

    It’s a game; and people can take it or leave it. Simple.

    If you have performance issues post your PC specs, area, internet provider, explain exactly where, when, and what issues precisely that you’re having and give people any real, non hyperbolic data to deal with.

    The truth is that whilst this game has a whole host of issues; a LOT of people are running it on a toaster and expect it to make a Sunday Roast and do the washing up after.

    Make an insightful post with quantifiable data, so maybe anyone (users or Zos) can give some help.

    No, it’s not guaranteed to help, but it’s a lot more probable than ‘bah! Performance! I quit!’

    And pretending the problem doesn't exist by simply saying "it's fine on my end" or "what are your specs" or "you have bad internet", or by having the thread locked will help any better?

    Insightful posts don't help. Has been tried before, Zenimax simply doesn't care. Just need to look at this thread. 7 pages of detailed feedback, of players doing Zenimax's job, and yet Zenimax not only ignores it, but refuses to do anything about it when questioned directly. This isn't even specific to performance, the same has happened in basically every part of the game.

    Insightful posts don't help. And neither does pretending the problem away, nor sweeping the problem under the rug.

    Don't infer your own nonsense from what I write, and then argue with your own inference quoting me like I implied it.

    A lot of times actual data HAS helped.

    Do some reading and research before you show yourself up.

    Dude, look at this thread.

    "I have horrible performance, it has driven me to quit!"

    "I have no issues."

    "What are your specs?"

    "You need better internet."

    "Can I has your stuff?"

    "Inb4 lock."

    If it was one-off, sure, I'd shrug it off as somebody's connection being screwy, and they're misconstruing that for the server's. But it isn't a one-off. The sheer volume of threads about performance recently, let alone in total, shows that. Jesus, look at PC Technical Support.

    That's not even the point, though, just look at how everybody is not even addressing the thread topic here. Rather than actually discussing what drove the OP to leave (of which performance has also caused me to stop playing), we have people memeing, pretending the problem doesn't exist, and pandering to the "I have no problems" crowd. Then, since this is a kind of "I'm quitting" thread, it'll be swept under the rug, without any actual discussion happening.

    I'm not inferring anything, this is happening in this very thread. Which is the damn problem.
    A lot of times actual data HAS helped.

    Bull. Read the 7 page thread, proving that not only is a specific jump within Akamai's network causing ping to skyrocket, but Akamai's routing is actually trash for oceanic users, causing our ping to tank unnecessarily. I have to use a damn VPN with a special route for ESO traffic, just to have my ping be under 500. Akamai is a problem, this thread proves it, and yet Zenimax isn't even considering looking into it.

    Hell, read most of the constructive threads within the PTS section.
    Edited by jcm2606 on December 10, 2018 12:12PM
  • Protossyder
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    (..) This amazing game has been the only game on my PC since release. (..)

    This is a big mistake unless your still do quests (one time is enough for me) and other stuff like farming. Playing different games improves the gaming experience of every single one, at least in my opinion.
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  • Aurayna
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    I did that with the Sims 4 ... leaving is far better than getting wound up over all that annoys you !

    But there again ESO is a far more exciting game than Sims 4 !

    Just leave your game there and go play other games for a while then you can always come back and pick things up.

    Merry Christmas BTW !
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    Me wants stuffage or else legal law personage called!
  • Elsonso
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    jcm2606 wrote: »
    A lot of times actual data HAS helped.

    Bull. Read the 7 page thread, proving that not only is a specific jump within Akamai's network causing ping to skyrocket, but Akamai's routing is actually trash for oceanic users, causing our ping to tank unnecessarily. I have to use a damn VPN with a special route for ESO traffic, just to have my ping be under 500. Akamai is a problem, this thread proves it, and yet Zenimax isn't even considering looking into it.

    What makes you think ZOS is not looking into it, or hasn't? That is the main problem with the way ZOS communicates, or fails to communicate. We cannot make statements like you did because we don't know.


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  • Grimm13
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    jcm2606 wrote: »

    Bull. Read the 7 page thread, proving that not only is a specific jump within Akamai's network causing ping to skyrocket, but Akamai's routing is actually trash for oceanic users, causing our ping to tank unnecessarily. I have to use a damn VPN with a special route for ESO traffic, just to have my ping be under 500. Akamai is a problem, this thread proves it, and yet Zenimax isn't even considering looking into it.

    Hell, read most of the constructive threads within the PTS section.

    Been wondering if the Akamai equipment doing the trouble is picking up on the guild roster flooding the servers are doing in the background and getting triggered by it.

    https://sparkforautism.org/

    Season of DraggingOn
    It's your choice on how you vote with your $

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  • Elsonso
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    Grimm13 wrote: »
    jcm2606 wrote: »

    Bull. Read the 7 page thread, proving that not only is a specific jump within Akamai's network causing ping to skyrocket, but Akamai's routing is actually trash for oceanic users, causing our ping to tank unnecessarily. I have to use a damn VPN with a special route for ESO traffic, just to have my ping be under 500. Akamai is a problem, this thread proves it, and yet Zenimax isn't even considering looking into it.

    Hell, read most of the constructive threads within the PTS section.

    Been wondering if the Akamai equipment doing the trouble is picking up on the guild roster flooding the servers are doing in the background and getting triggered by it.

    I am assuming not. Akamai is not a magical tool that detects and blocks DDoS attacks. It has rules, and no small amount of human intervention, as I understand. If guild roster flooding were the problem, Akamai could have already whitelisted it. Unless, that is, there is a real DDoS that attempts to exploit or spoof that traffic such that Akamai cannot easily tell the difference.
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  • stewhead2ub17_ESO
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    In b4 lock
  • Pops_ND_Irish
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    Hello fellow gamer's!
    I just wanted to put down a few last words.
    This amazing game has been the only game on my PC since release.
    I played both alpha and beta, if i remember correct ;-) (it's been awhile since that time now) and have loved the journey.
    watching Sypher, Deltia and Alcast +++ journey through the game has been epic, and making so many friends in the small Norwegian guild (500 Companions) was wonderful and I will never forget this game.
    What a journey it's been and holy balls how much great PVP it has been, but now the performance is so bad and the game is unplayable.

    There isn't more to say really.
    It makes me sad actually to see that they can't fix this game because it could have been bigger than wow if they focused on the right things, and for the hardcore player base that still stick around and believe in Zenimax! Have fun and never say never..
    I have installed ESO now and finally I have time for other games.
    Merry christmas!

    Zenimax! if you read this then thank u for this game, but you need to do something about servers and game performance.
    For this 40 year old, norwegian veteran it is to late.
    GL!

    Send stuff !!
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    Did you buy crates before you left? Perhaps gifted crates to someone else? Maybe a crown exclusive home? That's what's important.
    Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche
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