Just a tidbit about instancing; if you group with someone and go to a place on the map where you have completed the quest and the other person hasn't, you will most probably not see each others.

It's a bit weird, but since you are in the instance of 'you saved us from monsters' and the other person is in the instance of 'we are overrun with monsters, help us', it's pretty normal you can't interact.

So it’s not just me then, I spend a lot of time walking (yes walking) around picking up all sorts of stuff that others miss, then yesterday I was walking up to some Jute and it just vanished as I got there.

At other times I’ve walked up to an iron ore node with no one in the vicinity for miles and just as I press E to start the action a ‘ghost’ appears from nowhere and ‘ninjas’ the node and vanishes. I quickly zoom out and there is nothing anywhere to be seen. I’ve also had this happen when opening a chest only to watch the contents vanish in front of me, again no one in sight either before or after.

I was also in a dungeon yesterday and noticed a group of around 10 people standing in a half circle looking at a pile of dead bodies. One person stood out as she was shooting her bow at exactly 1 second intervals at nothing, then the NPC appeared and died almost instantly, this went on and on and on adding to the pile of bodies, farming I guess.

I agree that this is more likely to be a case of phasing than exploiting, I ran into this a LOT in beta. But I'd keep an eye on it, it SHOULDN'T really function this way, someone COULD be exploiting and you could never report them, because you can't see them and would never know (except for the nodes vanishing).

its not accidental.
they are undergound.

i just started a new character and found them all over the starter area of bleakrock. nodes (specificaly cloth, iron and herbs) vanish and someone is under the ground (if you managed to be ontop of the node when they gather, you can often see their name)

while its true that the ground swallows people in game from time to time..those poor souls fall right to the center of the game world (or like in the old morrowind days, break their ankles and legs on the invisible floor. done that enough times myself around solthsheim on the original xbox bloodmoon) this is deliberate becasue they are just out of view, not tumbling to the depths of the unsolid underworld.

these bots are just under the surface, moving from node to node at top speed.
just like back in world of warcraft. (maybe you should hire some GMs to pick em up and drop em from height, like they occasionaly did there. was fun to see em fall out of the sky from nowhere.

or, alternatively. populate the underworld with nice, unkillable slaughterfish. that stay in the top layer area, that way if you DO accidentaly fall thru the world, you fall far enough that you cant be eaten by them...

I walk also in this game (you find amazing things and beautiful scenes doing this). I have noticed nodes there one second and when I go to get them..gone. I know fiancé and I do all quests together, so it isn't the phasing. But also I don't hear anything like the node being used. So not sure if it is just an in game glitch or bot.

But I have played many MMOs where invisible bots did this.

From the issues specific to certain machines involving characters being thrown about, it appears that it is possible to manipulate character position from the client side. As such, I would not be surprised if people are exploiting this.

cliveklgb14_ESO wrote: »

It isn't necessarilly bots.

Say you complete a quest in an area that drives away the bad guys. For you now you'll see only friendlies in the area, But for others that haven't done that quest yet, they'll still see the bad guys.

You are probably experiencing people in a different instance of the area.

No dude. You'll see it yourself sooner or later. These guys are maphacking to nodes and gathering them. Sometimes they are even 'below' the ground. You can 'see' them when you look at the node as it's harvested and your pointer tells you who it is, but you'll never actually see their character then they'll teleport away to the next node.

I got a couple of screenshots but apparently you can't just '/report' and add in the name. I'm not sure how to report the guys I saw.

I have noticed especially in Bleakrock that the nodes disappear at an alarming rate. In fact, I have now given up gathering in that area because it is a total waste of time. You can see the node and nobody is around and next second it is just gone.

I do not think that banning people for buying gold is the answer. I think that they should just fix this very expensive, plus running costs, game. All the occurances listed above have never, never, never happened or allowed to happen in any other MMORPG, and I have played all the major ones.

Yea, there are Mklmh's and Yyttffa's camping out nodes. I've seen their names under ground when they ninja a node.

I saw another type of bot: it had a name that was a jumble of random characters, and it had accessed the resource node to block anyone else from accessing it. It just stood there doing nothing.