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Just take the tickets and the event rewards away from the FG exploiters.
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Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
Edited by Nyladreas on December 5, 2018 3:35PM You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
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✭Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
What if they only did it in pre-made groups where everyone agreed on TP'ing to FG1? Should people be punished for a victimless crime?PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Why the event tickets? Those were given upon the killing of the final boss in ANY dungeon. Didn't even have to use group finder. Now you're just asking for punishment for the sake of punishment.The Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Xalvakka's Scourge - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra DestroyerThe Unchained - The Brilliant - Moth Trusted - The Just - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger71,140 achievement points15 -
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✭✭✭✭✭kathandira wrote: »Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
What if they only did it in pre-made groups where everyone agreed on TP'ing to FG1? Should people be punished for a victimless crime?
I just imagine the person who bought my Fang Lair Chests motif (that I got in my pre-made), from the guild trader, suddenly realizing they don't know the motif anymore, and they just accepted the master writ that required it
The Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Xalvakka's Scourge - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra DestroyerThe Unchained - The Brilliant - Moth Trusted - The Just - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger71,140 achievement points3 -
Its not an exploit, its a design flaw. Just like that one time in vAS where Felms was not jumping. What if someone queies for random and decides to go Fungel grotto without knowing that it will give rewards, I dont see any exploiting here.
And btw its not just FG1 its all dungeons that give the reward. FG1 is just the fastest.6 -
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✭✭✭Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
1. If people could put in the effort on their own, this would not be an issue. They cannot - so they want others to put in effort FOR THEM.
2. YES PLEASE take MOTIFS AWAY! lol really?!
3. If you think that if anyone who ported got all their tickets and other junk taken they would ever again carry a pug through any random normal again - I'd say you were sadly mistaken.
4. Says who? I saw NOT ONE ZOS PERSON say this is an EXPLOIT. A dungeon was done, period.
If you have any interest in the game then join guilds, learn to play, and make preformed groups to do your dailies like many of us do!
The finder is only there for people who DO NOT put time and effort in with others toward playing - because if they did they wouldn't need the finder full stop.
Making friends and joining guilds is what investing in an MMO looks like!
Not getting a carry through whatever.kathandira wrote: »Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
What if they only did it in pre-made groups where everyone agreed on TP'ing to FG1? Should people be punished for a victimless crime?
OFC they should because NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING that doesn't meet with the Brigade's Approval.
Don't leave the instance! Don't kick people from the instance! Stay where I WANNA STAY! *smh*Edited by ZOS_RikardD on December 5, 2018 5:12PM10 -
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✭kathandira wrote: »Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
What if they only did it in pre-made groups where everyone agreed on TP'ing to FG1? Should people be punished for a victimless crime?
I just imagine the person who bought my Fang Lair Chests motif (that I got in my pre-made), from the guild trader, suddenly realizing they don't know the motif anymore, and they just accepted the master writ that required it
I would rage if I were that guy, lol.PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc0 -
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✭Uhhhh...you do know that you can get the tickets without using the group finder...and for all I care... take my ugly pony pet...and all the motifs...open up some bank space...1 -
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✭✭✭Uhhhh...you do know that you can get the tickets without using the group finder...and for all I care... take my ugly pony pet...and all the motifs...open up some bank space...
Yeah this. I legit went to all this stuff to help guildies from my trade guild, who also helped me with my lowbies - and I ran with the same group every morning. So. *shrugs* idk why some people have so many issues (well I can guess - but it will not help here)Edited by Mureel on December 5, 2018 4:17PM1 -
VirusOfBeauty✭✭✭I went where people wanted to go and I didn't really care which dungeons we did . But in all honesty... Imagine doing DLC dungeons like Moonhonter Keep 15 times or more every single day with a pug where you have no healer, no tank and people just running off and leaving others behind.. And with the group tool bugging out and you only have limited time to play in the evening or you have to rush before the event ends. I understand why people port to something more fast and easyEdited by VirusOfBeauty on December 5, 2018 3:51PMMother Hen of Chilled Explorers Dailies (PC EU Guild)13 -
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✭✭✭VirusOfBeauty wrote: »I went where people wanted to go and I didn't really care which dungeons we did . But in all honesty... Imagine doing DLC dungeons like Moonhonter Keep 15 times or more every single day with a pug where you have no healer, no tank and people just running off and leaving others behind.. And with the group tool bugging out and you only have limited time to play in the evening or you have to rush before the event ends. I understand why people port to something more fast and easy
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✭kathandira wrote: »Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
What if they only did it in pre-made groups where everyone agreed on TP'ing to FG1? Should people be punished for a victimless crime?
This whole "issue" doesn't matter to me one way or the other. That being said, it doesn't matter if there is a "victim" or not...the fact is people are doing an end-run around the system, exploiting an unforeseen loophole. The event is supposed to give rewards for completing a RANDOM dungeon, its not random if you port to FG1(or wherever) so therefore its wrong and cheating. Just like people who whine endlessly about vet DLC dungeons being in the random queue(come on people, vet DLC dungeons really aren't that hard) the term random means it could be any dungeon from those on your active list. People whine about being punished for ESO+ subscribers having to deal with the DLC dungeons...but lets be realistic...you signed up for ESO+, presumably because you wanted access to more content without having to buy each and every one...therefore you have no right to complain when you are given more content, through group finder or otherwise.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭kathandira wrote: »Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
What if they only did it in pre-made groups where everyone agreed on TP'ing to FG1? Should people be punished for a victimless crime?
This whole "issue" doesn't matter to me one way or the other. That being said, it doesn't matter if there is a "victim" or not...the fact is people are doing an end-run around the system, exploiting an unforeseen loophole. The event is supposed to give rewards for completing a RANDOM dungeon, its not random if you port to FG1(or wherever) so therefore its wrong and cheating. Just like people who whine endlessly about vet DLC dungeons being in the random queue(come on people, vet DLC dungeons really aren't that hard) the term random means it could be any dungeon from those on your active list. People whine about being punished for ESO+ subscribers having to deal with the DLC dungeons...but lets be realistic...you signed up for ESO+, presumably because you wanted access to more content without having to buy each and every one...therefore you have no right to complain when you are given more content, through group finder or otherwise.
when you have the person who just threw a bow on their crafter and can only snipe spam from the back... the vDLC dungeons are literally impossible. Those are the people who were queuing for this event.The Unshattered - Tenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Xalvakka's Scourge - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra DestroyerThe Unchained - The Brilliant - Moth Trusted - The Just - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger71,140 achievement points7 -
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✭✭✭Makes me legit want to select all DLC normal - on my tank - and just leave instance after porting in and repeat every time my penalty is up, for a week!
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✭✭✭✭kathandira wrote: »Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
What if they only did it in pre-made groups where everyone agreed on TP'ing to FG1? Should people be punished for a victimless crime?
That's even worse tbh. That's organised exploiting, no doubt with the idea that nobody can report you that way.
I have no doubt that this exploit will continue to be abused even after the event ends by many people.0 -
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✭✭✭kathandira wrote: »Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
What if they only did it in pre-made groups where everyone agreed on TP'ing to FG1? Should people be punished for a victimless crime?
This whole "issue" doesn't matter to me one way or the other. That being said, it doesn't matter if there is a "victim" or not...the fact is people are doing an end-run around the system, exploiting an unforeseen loophole. The event is supposed to give rewards for completing a RANDOM dungeon, its not random if you port to FG1(or wherever) so therefore its wrong and cheating. Just like people who whine endlessly about vet DLC dungeons being in the random queue(come on people, vet DLC dungeons really aren't that hard) the term random means it could be any dungeon from those on your active list. People whine about being punished for ESO+ subscribers having to deal with the DLC dungeons...but lets be realistic...you signed up for ESO+, presumably because you wanted access to more content without having to buy each and every one...therefore you have no right to complain when you are given more content, through group finder or otherwise.
when you have the person who just threw a bow on their crafter and can only snipe spam from the back... the vDLC dungeons are literally impossible. Those are the people who were queuing for this event.
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✭✭✭✭Uhhhh...you do know that you can get the tickets without using the group finder...and for all I care... take my ugly pony pet...and all the motifs...open up some bank space...
I know that you can get the tickets elsewhere. It still makes fir a good punishment since they're part of the event.0 -
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✭Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
Well, definitions are a tricky subject: who makes a definition? is the definition unanimous and consensual or is it debatable?
Some people, who I'm pretty sure were not on the dev team that designed the Group Finder, decided that the "port to another dungeon" is a bug.
I don't know much about coding but I know that it is made by logical sequences of actions so IMO I can't see how that this could be a bug,I think it was just designed that way. Now the devs, when coding it didn't foresee the "creative" uses some players could make of that tool and in that sense, the "trick" is not intended (even if it was designed that way).
In this game, we have already seen (for good or for worse) an unintended mechanism, that directly derived from how the combat system was designed (so not a bug) being approved by the Dev team, although it looks and feels like an exploit (talking about Animation cancelling/Weaving).
So, it's up to ZOS to decide what to consider an exploit or not, and what is a punishable one or not.
People being rude and/or jerks/bullies is a completely different issue, that is definitely not tied to any bugs, exploits or features of any games, but there are already tools to deal with them (reports)
Asking for any kind of punishment for people who did it all between consenting friends/guildies just seems like something really naughty to do, especially during the "jolly" season. imo.
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✭I think it was already stated on the German forum that there will be no punishment whatsoever for anyone who did this, but they might try to make sure you can't go to another dungeon while doing a random in the future.
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✭That's even worse tbh. That's organised exploiting, no doubt with the idea that nobody can report you that way.
I have no doubt that this exploit will continue to be abused even after the event ends by many people.
The interesting thing about this is, the rewards for this event are 100% cosmetic. Mounts, Non-Combat Pets, Motifs, and tickets to purchase a mount. Those who are using this 'clever use of game mechanics' in a pre-made group are hurting absolutely no one. I can understand in a group of randoms since someone might actually be queuing for a specific dungeon, or simply leveling and looking for the quest in a new dungeon. But in a pre-made, utilizing this game mechanic in no way gives anyone a true advantage over others.PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc3 -
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✭✭✭✭kathandira wrote: »Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
What if they only did it in pre-made groups where everyone agreed on TP'ing to FG1? Should people be punished for a victimless crime?
This whole "issue" doesn't matter to me one way or the other. That being said, it doesn't matter if there is a "victim" or not...the fact is people are doing an end-run around the system, exploiting an unforeseen loophole. The event is supposed to give rewards for completing a RANDOM dungeon, its not random if you port to FG1(or wherever) so therefore its wrong and cheating. Just like people who whine endlessly about vet DLC dungeons being in the random queue(come on people, vet DLC dungeons really aren't that hard) the term random means it could be any dungeon from those on your active list. People whine about being punished for ESO+ subscribers having to deal with the DLC dungeons...but lets be realistic...you signed up for ESO+, presumably because you wanted access to more content without having to buy each and every one...therefore you have no right to complain when you are given more content, through group finder or otherwise.
when you have the person who just threw a bow on their crafter and can only snipe spam from the back... the vDLC dungeons are literally impossible. Those are the people who were queuing for this event.
THIS! ^^^^^^^^^ Exactly!
Doesn't matter. You have the option to leave or kick. Bad luck is not a valid reason to exploit.
That's like saying you'll start stealing cause you have bad luck with interviewers to get a decent job lol.1 -
MrGraves✭✭✭✭Considering ZoS never spoke up about it during the course of the event (telling players not to do it or anything. Confirming they dont want players to do it. considering it an exploit. etc. When players had ASKED for an answer) I would say it's best if they don't take that sort of action against the players who did this. Honestly it's not THAT big of a deal as long as ZoS does fix the bug. (I don't really expect them to honestly I'm just saying.)
IF ZoS had spoken up about it I could see it being reasonable to take stuff away from players who exploited it but since they didn't... I don't feel like that would be very right of them to do that. IF players should be reprimanded it should be more case by case. Maybe stuff from the player reports they got and such not just Anyone Who Did The Thing.1 -
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✭kathandira wrote: »Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
What if they only did it in pre-made groups where everyone agreed on TP'ing to FG1? Should people be punished for a victimless crime?
That's even worse tbh. That's organised exploiting, no doubt with the idea that nobody can report you that way.
I have no doubt that this exploit will continue to be abused even after the event ends by many people.
Actually people have been using this "exploit" way before this event started...so where was all this outrage then?5 -
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✭✭✭kathandira wrote: »Those who exploited the group finder tool by teleporting to Fungal Grotto to receive their rewards during the entire duration of the event, while justifying it and calling others toxic and stupid for not following, should be punished.
You can't just let this go ZOS...
Cause it's not fair to those who do things legitimately, actually put in the time and effort and actually have some interest in playing the game for others as well.
Taking away the rewards from these exploiters hurts a ton more than a ban in my opinion and is a good way to make your point across without hurting the population.
It's an obvious exploit by definition.
What if they only did it in pre-made groups where everyone agreed on TP'ing to FG1? Should people be punished for a victimless crime?
This whole "issue" doesn't matter to me one way or the other. That being said, it doesn't matter if there is a "victim" or not...the fact is people are doing an end-run around the system, exploiting an unforeseen loophole. The event is supposed to give rewards for completing a RANDOM dungeon, its not random if you port to FG1(or wherever) so therefore its wrong and cheating. Just like people who whine endlessly about vet DLC dungeons being in the random queue(come on people, vet DLC dungeons really aren't that hard) the term random means it could be any dungeon from those on your active list. People whine about being punished for ESO+ subscribers having to deal with the DLC dungeons...but lets be realistic...you signed up for ESO+, presumably because you wanted access to more content without having to buy each and every one...therefore you have no right to complain when you are given more content, through group finder or otherwise.
when you have the person who just threw a bow on their crafter and can only snipe spam from the back... the vDLC dungeons are literally impossible. Those are the people who were queuing for this event.
THIS! ^^^^^^^^^ Exactly!
Doesn't matter. You have the option to leave or kick. Bad luck is not a valid reason to exploit.
That's like saying you'll start stealing cause you have bad luck with interviewers to get a decent job lol.
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✭✭✭✭But like we don't enjoy carrying bad pugs in dlc dungeons that just spam snipe
I just hate the fact that such a huge exploit is being let go on a giant scale. It's about the principle of the thing.
Let something like this go one time, more things are going to pop up. It also makes the game look kinda crappy.Edited by Nyladreas on December 5, 2018 4:07PM2
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