or alternatively have a main and send all your crafting stuff to a dedicated crafter thats what i have done, its a little harder to level my crafter but i consider it more of a challenge

You can get more than enough skill points at cap (320) to craft (in fact, every craft if you like) and fill out any build out there. That includes two weapons, two armors, class skills and morphs, all necessary passives, guild skills, everything.

Some people may find that they can't spare them while leveling up. Personally, I have been able to skill up everything combat-related that I want as it becomes available as well as taking the skills to keep up with my character level in blacksmithing, clothier, and woodworking. I heal and DPS just fine for my level, maybe even better than if I didn't craft because I can make gear (especially weapons) which keep up with my character level, which drops and quest rewards don't do.

I've found I've gotten enough skill points to keep all crafting professions up to par with my combat stuff, and I certainly don't feel gimped in combat. I guess it depends on where you want to spend your points. Personally, I'm fine being spec'd to be a healer. All my passives are going that direction, and aside from two damage spells I've been taking all the healing ones (I have 8 available now if you count my ultimate at level 19).

For crafting I've got at least one point into every craft so I can craft the 2nd tier of stuff. I have a hireling for enchanting. A point in to use blue recipes for provisioning. Another point to help me see cloth (that flax is killer to spot!), and to allow me to research 2 cloth items at once.. and I think that may be it for now crafting-wise.

Anyway, point is, crafting is keeping up with my level as far as what I can craft, and I'm not gimped in combat (I can heal dungeons just fine, and solo just fine). I may not be able to craft purple and yellow (or are they orange?) items, but who needs those at level 19 anyway? >>

You honestly get a lot of skill points to play with if you fully explore, do quests, and find your skyshards. It will all depend on what you wanna do with it. Some may not like crafting and choose to have a few different "builds" for combat instead of investing the extra points in crafting. Some may want more crafting points up front than they can afford to take on a combat character and end up making a character dedicated to nothing but crafting. One of the great things about ESO is there's so much choice

I am crafting on my main. Although I'm not pretending that if I'd spent all my skill points on fighting abilities I wouldn't be a powerhouse, nonetheless I haven't had my progress blocked yet on any quest (just finished Stonefalls).

At a grand total of 12 active abilities (5 reg +1 ult x2 weapon) and a very limited amount of passives that work without weapons...no, decent crafters can be decent fighters or mages as well. You might have to go find a few more skyshards than the "I don't craft" types.

And so we hear the mating cry of the munchkin, anything that is not completely optimized is "gimp", the wounded cry of the min/maxer soul at anything that has any element of meaningful choice.

◾50 Skill Points from leveling up
◾106 Skill points from skyshards (319/3)
◾20 Skill Points from dungeons (one each)

Thats 176 Skill points to start off with

Then you get an unknown amount from certain quests, If you read reddit it amounts to 166 Skill points. This amounts to a total of 342 skill points.

Interesting tidbit : It seems you needs 448 Skill points to max out everything on a character.

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KerinKor wrote: »

Obviously you aren't concerned about having your party members carry you with your less-than-they-could-be fighting skills.

If you're concerned with that, pick a role and stick with it until you can afford to diversify. For example if you're tank, go with 1H and shield, heavy armor, ignore everything else combat related because you don't need bow skills to be a tank.
The rest goes into crafting, and if there's any leftovers just pick what you want.

That way you can be optimized for your intended role and level and still be able to craft. You won't be as adaptable, but that's the price you have to pay for early specialization.

This is of course assuming you collect skyshards.

KerinKor wrote: »

Personally it concerns me that as I said, while leveling I am gimping myself and those who I play with in groups if I have to divert points into crafting which would otherwise be available to make myself a better player.

If you're doing the class quests and collecting skyshards you should have no shortage of skill points. Indeed you'll find yourself with more than you can spend (limited by your actual numerical skill level in whatever you're using) unless you are trying to spread yourself all over the place (and intentionally 'gimping' yourself by trying to perform multiple roles at once).

I think a lot of people buy more active abilities than they realize will fit on their bar - and waste a lot of skill points.

KerinKor wrote: »

Exarch wrote: »

And so we hear the mating cry of the munchkin, anything that is not completely optimized is "gimp", the wounded cry of the min/maxer soul at anything that has any element of meaningful choice.

I appreciate your thoughtful and considered reply, I do love an intelligent debate.

Personally it concerns me that as I said, while leveling I am gimping myself and those who I play with in groups if I have to divert points into crafting which would otherwise be available to make myself a better player.

Obviously you aren't concerned about having your party members carry you with your less-than-they-could-be fighting skills.

So you are ignoring the slew of comments before the sarcastic one?

There are plenty of points to go around. Almost none are actually needed in crafting.

well using a couple of talent calculators out their that are capped at 100 points and I tried numerous build Ideas with all the combat/crafting moves I wanted and I could barely break 70 points, so at max level we'll see how it does. Unless your the person who wants every weapon and world skill line maxed which won't happen I think we'll be fine.