How have Shield Changed Affected PvE Combat?

Tasear · November 2018

How have you adjusted to the changes or what isn't working?

kojou · November 2018

I run my Stam Warden more now...

Mostly use them the same way in PVE that I always did, but they are a bit less effective now.

AcadianPaladin · November 2018

From my healer (magplar) perspective for which shield nerf was supposedly enacted, nope, she still can't heal one shot mechanics. So her 'relevancy' has not changed.

My magsorc was never a 'have it all high defense and high dps' character. She was a high defense character with mediocre damage and was slow, steady and safe when she fought - exactly what I wanted from her as a PvE soloist. She continues to be a stormsorc with one pet (matriarch). She continues to use only blockade, lightning flood and heavy attacks for dps. She continues to slot empowered ward, eledrain, surge, boundless storm, matriarch and inner light.

Here is what she changed:
- Instead of dual slotting the MG ult for its passives and damage, she now slots the psijic ult on her primary bar only for the passives (reduce damage and shield on block).
- She reenchanted a big piece of armor for health bringing her up (with pet and food boosts) to about 20k to boost her empowered ward.
- She enchanted her primary lightning staff with the enchantment that gives you a shield to try and compensate for the empowered ward nerf.
- She retraited her staves to Defending to boost her empowered ward.

End result: Despite the changes both her durability and dps are notably lower than before the nerf. Fun. Not.

Banana · November 2018

Ive had to use ice heart to maintain some durability

Lord_Eomer · November 2018

I stopped doing PVE DPS with Mag Sorc and turned him into PVE tank.

Post Murkmire, using Stam Sorc and Magicka Templar for PVE DPS.

colossalvoids · November 2018

Slotted channeled acceleration on shield (if even using it) bar instead of a trap, some changes to red cp for ''reinforced'' perk and resulting shield while blocking is way more potent then ever before.

Vahrokh · November 2018

Tasear wrote: »

How have you adjusted to the changes or what isn't working?

I have adjusted to being laughed at, when I pretend to bring in my fully golded 2014 magsorc to trials. After all I can do more and better with my rushed up nightblade with only golded weapons and rest purple.

This is just the logic followup to having been banned by some guilds from doing trials, because I use pets. By the way, pets still die in vMOL. So much for making them immortal.

BretonMage · November 2018

Not being a top-tier player, I was having problems with low DPS even before the nerf. After that, I have tried to make adjustments such as: wearing some heavy armour; using Crystal Frags for the Dark Magic healing passive; wearing protective jewellery; using the Matriarch instead of the Clannfear even though her constantly flapping wings give me a headache...

I don't really want to reduce my magicka too much since my DPS was already low. So now I'm constantly spamming my shields to make up for the reduced damage mitigation, which makes my DPS even more rubbish. Even then I often get one/two-shotted.

I was struggling to get better DPS before the nerf but now I guess I just have to accept that one has to be top-tier to enjoy ESO content. I will still play from time to time, but I don't plan to spend too much time or effort on it.

Rungar · November 2018

my shields are better than ever but of course i play a dragonknight.

macsmooth · November 2018

Banana wrote: »

Ive had to use ice heart to maintain some durability

This

Iceheart is the go to monster set for a crit Sorc shield and minor maim to reduce their damage it’s the only option now

Tasear · November 2018

BretonMage wrote: »

Not being a top-tier player, I was having problems with low DPS even before the nerf. After that, I have tried to make adjustments such as: wearing some heavy armour; using Crystal Frags for the Dark Magic healing passive; wearing protective jewellery; using the Matriarch instead of the Clannfear even though her constantly flapping wings give me a headache...

I don't really want to reduce my magicka too much since my DPS was already low. So now I'm constantly spamming my shields to make up for the reduced damage mitigation, which makes my DPS even more rubbish. Even then I often get one/two-shotted.

I was struggling to get better DPS before the nerf but now I guess I just have to accept that one has to be top-tier to enjoy ESO content. I will still play from time to time, but I don't plan to spend too much time or effort on it.

You can turn down sound for wings. It's one of the settings.

BretonMage · November 2018

Tasear wrote: »

BretonMage wrote: »

Not being a top-tier player, I was having problems with low DPS even before the nerf. After that, I have tried to make adjustments such as: wearing some heavy armour; using Crystal Frags for the Dark Magic healing passive; wearing protective jewellery; using the Matriarch instead of the Clannfear even though her constantly flapping wings give me a headache...

I don't really want to reduce my magicka too much since my DPS was already low. So now I'm constantly spamming my shields to make up for the reduced damage mitigation, which makes my DPS even more rubbish. Even then I often get one/two-shotted.

I was struggling to get better DPS before the nerf but now I guess I just have to accept that one has to be top-tier to enjoy ESO content. I will still play from time to time, but I don't plan to spend too much time or effort on it.

You can turn down sound for wings. It's one of the settings.

Thanks for the tip, it's actually the animation of the wings that gives me a headache. I've tried zooming in and zooming out, and the animation is always there in the corner of the screen. I like her though, and appreciate the healing plus the extra damage she gives over the Clannfear, which is why I put up with it, but I do wish I didn't have to.

macsmooth · November 2018

BretonMage wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

BretonMage wrote: »

Not being a top-tier player, I was having problems with low DPS even before the nerf. After that, I have tried to make adjustments such as: wearing some heavy armour; using Crystal Frags for the Dark Magic healing passive; wearing protective jewellery; using the Matriarch instead of the Clannfear even though her constantly flapping wings give me a headache...

I don't really want to reduce my magicka too much since my DPS was already low. So now I'm constantly spamming my shields to make up for the reduced damage mitigation, which makes my DPS even more rubbish. Even then I often get one/two-shotted.

I was struggling to get better DPS before the nerf but now I guess I just have to accept that one has to be top-tier to enjoy ESO content. I will still play from time to time, but I don't plan to spend too much time or effort on it.

You can turn down sound for wings. It's one of the settings.

Thanks for the tip, it's actually the animation of the wings that gives me a headache. I've tried zooming in and zooming out, and the animation is always there in the corner of the screen. I like her though, and appreciate the healing plus the extra damage she gives over the Clannfear, which is why I put up with it, but I do wish I didn't have to.

I absolutely agree with you, the only reason why I don’t run a pet is this wings flapping in the corner of the screen, it’s like I’m about to have a epileptic fit looking at it

ZeroXFF · November 2018

On magblade I just put Inner Light where the shield was. If shields give barely any protection, might as well go full glass cannon.

On magsorc I just went double pet and using the matriarch now to heal myself instead, and put a few points in health to get over 20k.

On magplar I put HtD in that slot to heal myself, and also some points in health.

I really haven't noticed much difference. What is a 1-shot now was also a 1-shot with shields, and what isn't, doesn't matter if I'm healing or shielding against it. The only difference really is that my magblade does even more damage, and my magplar and magsorc can heal when needed, making healers even more irrelevant.

Swen_von_Walhallion · November 2018

well after last update my tankplar is rly strong with imperium set + sunshield and psijic pasive have lots of shilds and its rly common now for me block major part of inc dmg by shields, and minor protection procing on using blazing shield is rly helpful too.

md3788 · November 2018

Didn't change anything on most of my Magicka character. Harness Magicka still slotted. Yeah, it's smaller, but it's still to be used as an 'Oh S**t' and not as my crutch for survivability. The only thing I changed was my Pet Sorc that I use for vMA. Now instead of the big shield, I just run Mighty Chudan for resistance.

p00tx · November 2018

It didn't really make much of a difference, but I've always only really used one shield, so I'm used to having to be more careful taking damage. I did spec more into crit chance for the surge heal, and it seems to be okay. If I find myself needing some extra support, I slot Matriarch and I'm golden, even if I do lose a little dps.

StarOfElyon · November 2018

BretonMage wrote: »

Not being a top-tier player, I was having problems with low DPS even before the nerf. After that, I have tried to make adjustments such as: wearing some heavy armour; using Crystal Frags for the Dark Magic healing passive; wearing protective jewellery; using the Matriarch instead of the Clannfear even though her constantly flapping wings give me a headache...

I don't really want to reduce my magicka too much since my DPS was already low. So now I'm constantly spamming my shields to make up for the reduced damage mitigation, which makes my DPS even more rubbish. Even then I often get one/two-shotted.

I was struggling to get better DPS before the nerf but now I guess I just have to accept that one has to be top-tier to enjoy ESO content. I will still play from time to time, but I don't plan to spend too much time or effort on it.

This is sorta how I feel. I will not lower my magicka attributes. I would rather use shields and the light armor shield ability. I was raising three shields at once and though it got blasted through in seconds and I died more than a few times, it did keep me alive longer than usual. However, I spent so much time putting my shields up that I think it cut my offense in half or by 2/3. So I ended up losing anyway. I'm playing a high elf magicka templar, btw.

Somewhere · November 2018

Changed nothing on my mag sorc. I only really slot my shield if i have room on bars and or i feel my group isn't quite up to snuff and i need it. Even then, rarely do i find the shield since i dont cast it very often. Shouldn't need to use the skill often if everyone else is doing their job.

ccfeeling · November 2018

Not much , but I changed all my DPS from mag to stam tho

karekiz · November 2018

Overall?

About what I expected. Nothing has really changed that much for me. If I REALLY need some durability in a dungeon I simply toss on Chudan with X2 HP glyphs. Done.

It has not had me "group" with more healers as I typically run pet sorc groups and we just simply heal each other. However I don't exclude healers, but certainly don't feel as it is required to have them <even for stuff like Fang Lair/scalecaller HM>

LMar · November 2018

It's really odd.. my stam sorc tank has the same amount of shields as my magsorc dps but with higher resistances...

Tasear · November 2018

BretonMage wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

BretonMage wrote: »

Not being a top-tier player, I was having problems with low DPS even before the nerf. After that, I have tried to make adjustments such as: wearing some heavy armour; using Crystal Frags for the Dark Magic healing passive; wearing protective jewellery; using the Matriarch instead of the Clannfear even though her constantly flapping wings give me a headache...

I don't really want to reduce my magicka too much since my DPS was already low. So now I'm constantly spamming my shields to make up for the reduced damage mitigation, which makes my DPS even more rubbish. Even then I often get one/two-shotted.

I was struggling to get better DPS before the nerf but now I guess I just have to accept that one has to be top-tier to enjoy ESO content. I will still play from time to time, but I don't plan to spend too much time or effort on it.

You can turn down sound for wings. It's one of the settings.

Thanks for the tip, it's actually the animation of the wings that gives me a headache. I've tried zooming in and zooming out, and the animation is always there in the corner of the screen. I like her though, and appreciate the healing plus the extra damage she gives over the Clannfear, which is why I put up with it, but I do wish I didn't have to.

Reduction of effect sounds might be worth a try.