Too much negativity toward the ZOS’ Dev team

ESO_Nightingale · November 2018

Cillion3117 wrote: »

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

OP, untill ZOS gives us any reason to stop hating them i think people are entitled to their hate.

If you truly hate ZOS, why not just leave the game and the the forums. Move on to another game where you would be happy. Life is too short to spend your recreation time doing something you hate.

why give up when you can do your best to make things better? that's the easy way out.

terrannova · November 2018

People like u OP are the problem. This game has so much potential but no one takes advantage of it.
So u think sprint bug isnt an issue? or the horrendus lag at cyrodill thats been going on for 2 years at least? or the constant time outs on cyrodill? or the 30fps on an expensive computer while doing trials? dungeon dcs? dungeon bugs?what about the quality of life improvements that are non existent? console also seems to be worst than anything. I wouldnt wish i was playing on a console. They always seem to had problems on console ,where the majority of the players seem to be on console.

Cyrodill is the reason players keep bailing at the game, myself included. Performance is the worst in any triple A mmo out there. Keep your facts straight before making a blind post like this ,just to support the team. This game has so many problems that havent been fixed for months, years. I keep coming back to this forum to check if something has changed so i can play again. Murkmire seemed to be disastrous, but no everything is fine for u.

There are people in this game that experience only 5% of the game. People like that seems to be you also. Shame that people keep supporting lazy companies and cant claim their rights. Before u respond with any mindless answer asking what to do about all those problems and not try to support them , i have your answer. They could fix many many problems for 2 years at least now(that i have been playing), but very few efforts were made(they actually tried once to fix cyro). If u wanna see a prime example of what a consumer can do to change the game take a look at EA and their 2 recent games. Star wars battlefront 2 and BFV to see how people took the matter in their hands when they werent interested in giving them ANY money and made them loook like fools.

Stop swallowing whatever they throw at u

rexagamemnon · November 2018

terrannova wrote: »

People like u OP are the problem. This game has so much potential but no one takes advantage of it.
So u think sprint bug isnt an issue? or the horrendus lag at cyrodill thats been going on for 2 years at least? or the constant time outs on cyrodill? or the 30fps on an expensive computer while doing trials? dungeon dcs? dungeon bugs?what about the quality of life improvements that are non existent? console also seems to be worst than anything. I wouldnt wish i was playing on a console. They always seem to had problems on console ,where the majority of the players seem to be on console.

Cyrodill is the reason players keep bailing at the game, myself included. Performance is the worst in any triple A mmo out there. Keep your facts straight before making a blind post like this ,just to support the team. This game has so many problems that havent been fixed for months, years. I keep coming back to this forum to check if something has changed so i can play again. Murkmire seemed to be disastrous, but no everything is fine for u.

There are people in this game that experience only 5% of the game. People like that seems to be you also. Shame that people keep supporting lazy companies and cant claim their rights. Before u respond with any mindless answer asking what to do about all those problems and not try to support them , i have your answer. They could fix many many problems for 2 years at least now(that i have been playing), but very few efforts were made(they actually tried once to fix cyro). If u wanna see a prime example of what a consumer can do to change the game take a look at EA and their 2 recent games. Star wars battlefront 2 and BFV to see how people took the matter in their hands when they werent interested in giving them ANY money and made them loook like fools.

Stop swallowing whatever they throw at u

like many people who have commented on this post, you clearly did not read my entire article, you simply read the title and already formed your opinion. I could already tell before I finished reading your first paragraph. because you clearly did not read mine, I am not going to read yours.

you say people like me are the problem, no it is you, you are very closed minded and at this point your opinion on this matter is irrelevant.

xxthir13enxx · November 2018

But...they’ve worked so hard for it! Let them bask in All the Glory!

llSRRll · November 2018

Well when in end game pve and pvp you literally have 2-3 choices in class and race yea there might be a balancing issue. Also the game runs terribly. I don't know how long its been but Ive had the front bar weapon glitch for months now. God forbid I go through a wayshrine on my back bar smh. In trials you have mechanics that dont appear, constant frame rate drops and lag. Not even going to go into pvp. All the people who are complaining are saying is lets skip a dlc once a year and overhaul some of the things that really need to be fixed. It would make the game more enjoyable to play. I don't need a small dlc every 3 months just saying.

Wifeaggro13 · November 2018

Honestly i wont buy anyhting from Bethseda or Zenimax again. I hold very little hope either company is producing games to play , they are producing games to make money and are confident in their EULA to protect them from lawsuits. Have a look at fall out 76 that game is not only unplayable its more enjoyable to clean your house then play that game and they released it anyway. though ive owned everything from both IP's Elder scrolls and fall out. I wont even think of buying Elder scrolls 6. such a bummer to see aother company go this direction . all the good dev studios are in ashes dont even exist but in name.

rexagamemnon · November 2018

llSRRll wrote: »

Well when in end game pve and pvp you literally have 2-3 choices in class and race yea there might be a balancing issue. Also the game runs terribly. I don't know how long its been but Ive had the front bar weapon glitch for months now. God forbid I go through a wayshrine on my back bar smh. In trials you have mechanics that dont appear, constant frame rate drops and lag. Not even going to go into pvp. All the people who are complaining are saying is lets skip a dlc once a year and overhaul some of the things that really need to be fixed. It would make the game more enjoyable to play. I don't need a small dlc every 3 months just saying.

I think thats very fair, ive addressed the server deficency in my OP, and yes i think a QoL instead of a qaurter dlc would be a great way to improve this for the better. I just overall the amount of trash talk the devs recieve is not warranted, yes they deserve a fair amount of constructive critisicm but, the amount i see on the forum is just got me to the point where i ask if they would like some cheese with that wine.

Haashhtaag · November 2018

rexagamemnon wrote: »

llSRRll wrote: »

Well when in end game pve and pvp you literally have 2-3 choices in class and race yea there might be a balancing issue. Also the game runs terribly. I don't know how long its been but Ive had the front bar weapon glitch for months now. God forbid I go through a wayshrine on my back bar smh. In trials you have mechanics that dont appear, constant frame rate drops and lag. Not even going to go into pvp. All the people who are complaining are saying is lets skip a dlc once a year and overhaul some of the things that really need to be fixed. It would make the game more enjoyable to play. I don't need a small dlc every 3 months just saying.

I think thats very fair, ive addressed the server deficency in my OP, and yes i think a QoL instead of a qaurter dlc would be a great way to improve this for the better. I just overall the amount of trash talk the devs recieve is not warranted, yes they deserve a fair amount of constructive critisicm but, the amount i see on the forum is just got me to the point where i ask if they would like some cheese with that wine.

But ZOS sees QoL stuff as pure cosmetic, or adding a feature that doesn’t do anything to help the performance of this game. The literal best QoL change for Murkmire is being able to reorder your characters.

Kuramas9tails · November 2018

Emmagoldman wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Emmagoldman wrote: »

Communication is done well.

This is an interesting statement. Can you point to places where you explain why you think that?

the last mmo I played (fallen earth) the dev team never did a live event, stream, and hadnt updated the community for two years. I played grav and the devs floated off. I invested in alpha repopulation, that went well....and fragmented after. yikes

I generally know whats going on in game and in the context of a mmo, they do decently.

I think we expect them to be like the white house and respond to ever concern.

Well, my scalecaller senche mount has never blinked since its release last spring. And my Apex skeleton wolf mounts sound is still incorrect and sounds like a normal wolf and I have reported these bugs. No response yet. Small issues but really.....it's been 6 months.

Zelos · November 2018

ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »

Hello everyone,

Recently we've had to remove several comments for flaming, baiting and bashing, all being against the Forum Rules. While criticism is perfectly fine, it must be provided constructively and respectfully. Along with this, there will always be someone with a different view on the topic, there's no reason to be rude towards another forum member for having a different point of view, this, of course, goes towards all sides of this discussion. For the continuation of this discussion please be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid action on one's own account.

Thank you for understanding.

These are the only responses from ZOS you will get on the forums, that and lore questions xD. No the game isn't going to get fixed and they would much rather you buy the overpriced crown store crapp then play the actual game. My suggestion is to find another game because this one isn't going to last the much longer with No Dev interactions with their own community:)

ScardyFox · November 2018

rexagamemnon wrote: »

So i read one post after another about people being upset with ZOS for one reason after another. Very rarely do i see real legitament concerns brought up, and 99% of the time it is addressed in the forum section. But the truth is The Dev team on ESO is doing really well. Think about it they make an effort to bring new content every couple months, how many MMORPGs do that or are even able to? Sure there are some real concerns, ive complained about not being able to move content across servers and server performance at times and how the new mounts are always a reskin and the mounts aren’t really an important issue as much as i rip on ZOS in the forum section but other than that, i think they are doing great. Everyday i see a new post about the balancing in the game, and people are so uptight about balancing in the game as if they are experts and that they no better than the engineers of this game. But more often than not ots because someone is sore about their favorite class getting a balance to level the playing field for everyone when they want a leg up on the competition. I get it, i was upset when my templar lost major mending. But its always people get so bent out of shape over little stuff. The newest example is the sorc and the shields, hate to break it to you but they definately needed to be balanced with everyone else in pvp. When a sorc can take on 15 players and survive for 20min without dying due to stacked shields, thats ridiculas and not balanced. So thank you @ZOS for doing a good job.

This post... lol.

JackDaniell · November 2018

If i have learned anything from playing ESO since launch and the recent fallout 76 title,

Its that i wont ever be purchasing a bethesda game at full price again.
A half working title is atleast worth a 50%+ discount.

rexagamemnon · November 2018

@Zelos if you think this game is crap, why do you care some much to comment on the forum? You can always take your own advice and play another game

Darkenarlol · November 2018

When you do care about something you take it emotionally and personaly.
That's where negative posts comes from.
When you do not care - there is no negative feedback...because you just don't care

Looks like zos doing everything to make me stop my negative feedback... Sadly

Unsubbed 2accounts since nerfmire and now spending less than a hour in a week in eso

I'll be glad to resub and return to eso because i love this game and ES setting, but after they
nerfed my fanboy's pink glasses by never ending lags and eternal no eta in solving problems known
for years, not even mentioning nerfmire's enchants devs total clueless fiasco...

I still hope that things gonna change...

Because for now eso in it's curent state with lost in their own incompetence combat devs

is nice RP plarform but not a Game i want to play

Shadow-Fighter · November 2018

Please change title to:
Too much negativity criticism toward the ZOS’ Dev team

Thank you!

Crixus8000 · November 2018

Darkenarlol wrote: »

When you do care about something you take it emotionally and personaly.
That's where negative posts comes from.
When you do not care - there is no negative feedback...because you just don't care

Looks like zos doing everything to make me stop my negative feedback... Sadly

Unsubbed 2accounts since nerfmire and now spending less than a hour in a week in eso

I'll be glad to resub and return to eso because i love this game and ES setting, but after they
nerfed my fanboy's pink glasses by never ending lags and eternal no eta in solving problems known
for years, not even mentioning nerfmire's enchants devs total clueless fiasco...

I still hope that things gonna change...

Because for now eso in it's curent state with lost in their own incompetence combat devs

is nice RP plarform but not a Game i want to play

Well said. Games I didn't care for I just quit, nothing to say, I didn't like it so I moved on. But I like eso, I think it has great potential but it has so many issues and they never get fixed, they just get more piled on top. I have also unsubbed and don't play as much lately. I really hope things change though but it seems unlikely.

Sandman929 · November 2018

Is it that there's too much, or that there's several of the same criticisms that are ignored for years on end?

terrannova · November 2018

rexagamemnon wrote: »

terrannova wrote: »

People like u OP are the problem. This game has so much potential but no one takes advantage of it.
So u think sprint bug isnt an issue? or the horrendus lag at cyrodill thats been going on for 2 years at least? or the constant time outs on cyrodill? or the 30fps on an expensive computer while doing trials? dungeon dcs? dungeon bugs?what about the quality of life improvements that are non existent? console also seems to be worst than anything. I wouldnt wish i was playing on a console. They always seem to had problems on console ,where the majority of the players seem to be on console.

Cyrodill is the reason players keep bailing at the game, myself included. Performance is the worst in any triple A mmo out there. Keep your facts straight before making a blind post like this ,just to support the team. This game has so many problems that havent been fixed for months, years. I keep coming back to this forum to check if something has changed so i can play again. Murkmire seemed to be disastrous, but no everything is fine for u.

There are people in this game that experience only 5% of the game. People like that seems to be you also. Shame that people keep supporting lazy companies and cant claim their rights. Before u respond with any mindless answer asking what to do about all those problems and not try to support them , i have your answer. They could fix many many problems for 2 years at least now(that i have been playing), but very few efforts were made(they actually tried once to fix cyro). If u wanna see a prime example of what a consumer can do to change the game take a look at EA and their 2 recent games. Star wars battlefront 2 and BFV to see how people took the matter in their hands when they werent interested in giving them ANY money and made them loook like fools.

Stop swallowing whatever they throw at u

like many people who have commented on this post, you clearly did not read my entire article, you simply read the title and already formed your opinion. I could already tell before I finished reading your first paragraph. because you clearly did not read mine, I am not going to read yours.

you say people like me are the problem, no it is you, you are very closed minded and at this point your opinion on this matter is irrelevant.

no my friend , i read your post really well and i even read it again now only cause of your comment. Your obvservations on the game and complains were only for cosmetics and for server transfer. The rest of your post is mainly for the stupid class balances that im not referring to either and i think all those posts are dumb. I dont even care about the classes and the balance, i only want a game that works.

In my answer u will find only a comment about game breaking bugs that are for years in the game. Yet u dont even mention those things in your initial post and u focus only at the idiots that complain about balance that ruins the game. No classes dont ruin the game. Pushing out content so much and continuously neglecting the already existent bugs (game breaking bugs)are the problem. I know that this job isnt an easy one and u cant please everyone, but there are issues about performance and sooo many bugs that literaly make the game unplayable. If they could take some of their badget to fix those more people would still play and this game wouldnt be considered a joke at online forums and streaming devices. Literally no one i could see told anything positive about this game( of course im not referring to reviewers).

So u put all those aside and u wanna congratulate the team for doing nothing to make the game any better, rather than releasing new content...
Also your comment only proves that u are only as toxic as the people u are talking about.

Zelos · November 2018

rexagamemnon wrote: »

@Zelos if you think this game is crap, why do you care some much to comment on the forum? You can always take your own advice and play another game

Becuase it's a great game with a horrible dev team that doesnt care, that's why:) it's so sad

JKorr · November 2018

Haashhtaag wrote: »

ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »

Hello everyone,

Recently we've had to remove several comments for flaming, baiting and bashing, all being against the Forum Rules. While criticism is perfectly fine, it must be provided constructively and respectfully. Along with this, there will always be someone with a different view on the topic, there's no reason to be rude towards another forum member for having a different point of view, this, of course, goes towards all sides of this discussion. For the continuation of this discussion please be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid action on one's own account.

Thank you for understanding.

Exactly what we expected. Can do this type of moderation but not give feedback in regards to major game breaking issues.

Yep. Just who I want giving me information about issues. The FORUM moderators. Who have nothing to do with making/fixing the game. The forum moderators who might get a heads up when information will be released, but not what the information is or how or why the decision was made to do whatever it was that way.

Might be justified snarking if Gina or Jessica the community reps were making the "abide by the forum rules you agreed to when you joined" posts. but they aren't.

llSRRll wrote: »

Well when in end game pve and pvp you literally have 2-3 choices in class and race yea there might be a balancing issue. Also the game runs terribly. I don't know how long its been but Ive had the front bar weapon glitch for months now. God forbid I go through a wayshrine on my back bar smh. In trials you have mechanics that dont appear, constant frame rate drops and lag. Not even going to go into pvp. All the people who are complaining are saying is lets skip a dlc once a year and overhaul some of the things that really need to be fixed. It would make the game more enjoyable to play. I don't need a small dlc every 3 months just saying.

Key words here; *you have*. Last time I played all the choices in every class and race was there. The fact that some players who want to min/max get that last .00000001% of damage believe there are limited choices to bethebestestleetestuberestevahunstoppablejuggernautofdestruction to beat everyone for bragging rights and the extra inch on their measuring tape really doesn't mean that everyone who is playing the game for enjoyment and fun instead of being rabidly competitive believes the same. Okay, I get that for some players being uber leet at pvp is a thing. I get that some players want to clear content in microseconds instead of minutes to get on the leaderboards. I don't get why, however. For "end game" pve you really don't "win" anything. In pvp you might "win" the emperor's position until someone else kills you. So why is it so totally imperative that every class and race be so homogenized/balanced so every race and class is exactly the same, except for appearance?

miteba · November 2018

I think it is absolutelly fair to criticize, which will help fuel the evolution of ESO.
If you are able and receptive to critics, good or bad ones, you will grow as a person! The same applies to Zenimax Devs, moderators, PR, etc
My biggest crític towards the game isnt about classes balance or crown store or other ingame stuff... It is about the lack of communication between Zenimax and its community. The lack of a staff team to do the speaking, to really moderate, to explain some decisions or their visions.
Relationships with good communication tend to survive for much much longer ...

arasysb14_ESO · November 2018

rexagamemnon wrote: »

@Zelos if you think this game is crap, why do you care some much to comment on the forum? You can always take your own advice and play another game

When a game or even a team goes down the hill consistently over the years, its fans get frustrated and those who really care offer criticism, hoping things get fixed. Once they realize it's not going to get any better, they really move on and don't look back.

I have been playing since closed beta and trying to offer constructive criticism & feedback when I see something drastically bad for the game. I disregarded countless bugs, and horrible Customer Service that sends me automated random responses to unrelated issues I am having in the game for YEARS. But.. I have recently decided to send all my in-game items to my spouse (for whom I bought a high end desktop, screen, and ESO along with its DLCs + subscription so we could play together last Christmas). But that's it for me.

Enjoy your crown themed in-game holidays and unnecessary frustration.

ZOS_RichLambert wrote:

N0TPLAYER2 wrote:

Hey rich. When ya gonna fix your busted game?

You know you don't have to be here right?

OP you sound just the same and on top of that you have been accusing people with being "very closed minded" and that their opinion on this matter is "irrelevant." Guess who's close minded here and who doesn't offer useful feedback? you.

(for your reference quote above is from 2016 - https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/277898/rich-lambert-im-calling-you-out/p1 )

Strike_Maximus · November 2018

I support this game 100%, i have disagreed with some changes i have since adapted those said changes.
I understand peoples outcries over some things i get it, but some of the changes that upset people the most needed to happen.
Could it of been done better? sure it could have. Could we have lived without changes that did not make the best sense? sure.
For the people who rage and threaten to quit or actually do quit they need to get over it.
I have personally met some of the devs and even Gina Bruno; I'm not speaking for them but as a fan that got the chance to sit down and talk with them they really do care about this game and care about what myself and other players thought about the game, very genuine real people.
No i'm not brainwashed by ZOS I really do believe the devs give it their all this game is their job and they seem to really have a passion for it and if their reading right now just thank you for all of your hard work!
ESO is a big part of my life it's one of my favorite MMOs and aside from the negativity they really have taken this game and turned it into something unique that really makes it stand out from other MMOs.
As with any MMO there is always room for improvement and change and i believe ZOS implements this to the best of their ability and is truly working towards making the game better in the best interest of the players even if myself or other reasonable people don't always agree with changes.

Haashhtaag · November 2018

JKorr wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »

Hello everyone,

Recently we've had to remove several comments for flaming, baiting and bashing, all being against the Forum Rules. While criticism is perfectly fine, it must be provided constructively and respectfully. Along with this, there will always be someone with a different view on the topic, there's no reason to be rude towards another forum member for having a different point of view, this, of course, goes towards all sides of this discussion. For the continuation of this discussion please be sure to stay constructive and respectful to avoid action on one's own account.

Thank you for understanding.

Exactly what we expected. Can do this type of moderation but not give feedback in regards to major game breaking issues.

Yep. Just who I want giving me information about issues. The FORUM moderators. Who have nothing to do with making/fixing the game. The forum moderators who might get a heads up when information will be released, but not what the information is or how or why the decision was made to do whatever it was that way.

Might be justified snarking if Gina or Jessica the community reps were making the "abide by the forum rules you agreed to when you joined" posts. but they aren't.

llSRRll wrote: »

Well when in end game pve and pvp you literally have 2-3 choices in class and race yea there might be a balancing issue. Also the game runs terribly. I don't know how long its been but Ive had the front bar weapon glitch for months now. God forbid I go through a wayshrine on my back bar smh. In trials you have mechanics that dont appear, constant frame rate drops and lag. Not even going to go into pvp. All the people who are complaining are saying is lets skip a dlc once a year and overhaul some of the things that really need to be fixed. It would make the game more enjoyable to play. I don't need a small dlc every 3 months just saying.

Key words here; *you have*. Last time I played all the choices in every class and race was there. The fact that some players who want to min/max get that last .00000001% of damage believe there are limited choices to bethebestestleetestuberestevahunstoppablejuggernautofdestruction to beat everyone for bragging rights and the extra inch on their measuring tape really doesn't mean that everyone who is playing the game for enjoyment and fun instead of being rabidly competitive believes the same. Okay, I get that for some players being uber leet at pvp is a thing. I get that some players want to clear content in microseconds instead of minutes to get on the leaderboards. I don't get why, however. For "end game" pve you really don't "win" anything. In pvp you might "win" the emperor's position until someone else kills you. So why is it so totally imperative that every class and race be so homogenized/balanced so every race and class is exactly the same, except for appearance?

You miss the entire point. Good job.

Kelces · November 2018

rexagamemnon wrote: »

So i read one post after another about people being upset with ZOS for one reason after another. Very rarely do i see real legitament concerns brought up, and 99% of the time it is addressed in the forum section. But the truth is The Dev team on ESO is doing really well. Think about it they make an effort to bring new content every couple months, how many MMORPGs do that or are even able to? Sure there are some real concerns, ive complained about not being able to move content across servers and server performance at times and how the new mounts are always a reskin and the mounts aren’t really an important issue as much as i rip on ZOS in the forum section but other than that, i think they are doing great. Everyday i see a new post about the balancing in the game, and people are so uptight about balancing in the game as if they are experts and that they no better than the engineers of this game. But more often than not ots because someone is sore about their favorite class getting a balance to level the playing field for everyone when they want a leg up on the competition. I get it, i was upset when my templar lost major mending. But its always people get so bent out of shape over little stuff. The newest example is the sorc and the shields, hate to break it to you but they definately needed to be balanced with everyone else in pvp. When a sorc can take on 15 players and survive for 20min without dying due to stacked shields, thats ridiculas and not balanced. So thank you @ZOS for doing a good job.

So no feedback alowed, even if some are not politely put, but still make a point? Maybe you take a look at that instead...

Many other games bring out content just as fast, and that's not necessarely a measure of quality.

There are in fact computer specialists, that might know something, the people working for ZoS don't. Ever thought about that?

As most players, I don't care about any particular class, just about performance. That's why many get frustrated and tend to get upset. Not justified? It would be foolish to say no...

Gaeliator · November 2018

Sylvermynx wrote: »

@Tandor: I started playing late June. I've never seen an empty world. I actually wouldn't mind fewer people in my face all the time!

Yes, there are some issues (well, not for me....) Except for my satellite lag, the game runs just fine. It can sometimes take me ten minutes to get logged in - I take that to mean there's plenty of people trying to do the same, or my satellite is being extra laggy. Or both.

Of course, I don't pvp. So all of that stuff doesn't affect me at all - that's not to say I don't believe it when so many quality posters (as well as not-so-quality ones) repeat it ad infinitum ad nauseam. I do believe it - I just don't have to deal with it! Since I have virtually zero issues, I'm not asking for anything from the devs - except that they do what they can to help out those who pvp.

There are loads of fun stuff to do in eso, for players with different purposes. It doesn't surprise me dev team got that much negativity...since so many different needs, u know. I'm not here to judge but I do love the game and hope the 2nd era will last longer, xD.

JinMori · November 2018

What i get from this is that some people will just refuse to acknowledge the problems that plague eso, and are observable in game by pretty much every single user, one example would be performance, all kinds of performance.

Some people suggest leaving the game if you don't like it, and while that is reasonable it's also really bad for the game in general, because if a lot of people leave, well, enjoy your wasteland of a game, that is not good for the general health of the game.

So the best option is to offer criticism, and sometimes people will get angry, and justifiably so at this point.

also, at this point it's self evident what is the priority in this game, so if things get better, don't kid yourself, it's not because they suddenly care about making a good game, it;s because they are forced to, or at the very least the higher ups don;t really care about this game, they just care about the money they can get from it, which explain why they ignore things that don;t make money directly, in other words things that are not content or crown store related items.

The cp system won't be fixed by making new pvp and pve modes, it will be fixed with nerfing the classes yet again, or cp system, because that's the easy way out, the one that costs less money, they won;t fix server lag, or performance because it's not guaranteed to make money, although it most probably would make even more money than if they released a new dlc, but there is the slim chance it won't. Etc...

Like seriously open your damn eyes, and start thinking.

makavelliiretro · November 2018

Or paying for a game every month then they change rules and skills basically I'm playing a game that I really didnt want to now. And hey if zos is going to make my cp in bastion ineffective give me some free respec scrolls

eso_lags · November 2018

@rexagamemnon Coming from a pvp perspective, can you give me anything positive i should say to the eso devs about pvp? About cyrodil? About performance? It will always be negative when the game is like this.. I believe you should give credit where its due but there is none to be given when it comes to pvp. Only negative feedback.

This is why people quit.. You play for 2-3 years and things get boring. The only thing that kept me going was pvp. But you literally cant play on xbox.. Like tonight, shor is dead which is not abnormal. That means im left with vivec. But viv is literally unplayable. I cant cast skills, they literally do not go off. Im lucky to get one vigor with 6 tries.. Constant crashing.. Terrible. So i guess you either ball up or dont play.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Maybe one day we will see some of that communication you were talking about when it comes to this issue.. I dont see that happening but please prove me wrong. I would be happy.

Jaraal · November 2018

JinMori wrote: »

The cp system won't be fixed by making new pvp and pve modes, it will be fixed with nerfing the classes yet again, or cp system, because that's the easy way out, the one that costs less money, they won;t fix server lag, or performance because it's not guaranteed to make money, although it most probably would make even more money than if they released a new dlc, but there is the slim chance it won't. Etc...

Exactly. Instead of increasing server performance, let's nerf Swift and Major Expedition, slow the players down so they won't lag quite as bad or crash to desktop when trying to target moving opponents.