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Is Spell Strategist THAT GOOD?
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DigitalEulogy✭✭✭I seem to keep getting SS shields, lol. If i get it I'll try it out if not, whatev's.0 -
mattaeus01b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I fricken GREAT! If you and your target are stationary, and someone is constantly feeding you bubbles.Player 1 "You all suck, dont you know how to play this game?"
Player 2 "Huh?"
Player 1 "just run passed everything!"
Player 3 "We could just kill them on the way"
Player 4 "Why am I 89% of total DPS, one of the only ones that Qued as DPS, and yet in a group with 3 other DPS that cant seem to kill the basic mobs in a normal dungeon, and being told I suck?"
Player 1 "Whatever, GFL"
Player 1 has left the group...0 -
Malamar1229✭✭✭✭✭
✭Its arguably bis end game pve, and arguably bis magicka duel set. It functions well open world as well, and I imagine in BGsEdited by Malamar1229 on November 25, 2018 8:39PM0 -
cambergang✭✭✭I’ve deuled with my set and lich on it really good and for pve is dps I picked up about 3.2k0 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭havent wasted my time on it until i know its not going to get nerfed. cuz god forbid mag actually gets a new good set without it being nerfed the next patch because people whine about power creep -_-1 -
adeptusminor✭✭✭✭It's best in certain situations. Are you a top 5% of your class dps running trials to improve leaderboard scores? If not you probably won't notice much of a difference. In that case it's still probably worth getting at a reasonable price but not the current inflated price. If you are a top 5% and pushing scores you probably already have it.1
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Mettaricana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Seemed kinda niche like relquen everyone totes it as good til you end up in a fight where it doesn't shine.1 -
Ufretin✭✭✭✭✭I'm making a fortune selling whatever sets Alcast recommends for his builds. So yes, Strat is meta, op, must-have, etc. Keep buying it!3 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »And then next update ZoS comes and puts down the Hammer of Nerf on Spell Strategist, and the forum will be filled again with people crying how their new op set got trashed.
I imagine it's getting nerfed Q1 (MA was nerfed the next over patch too). ZOS is fine with using SS as a temporary gold sink.
SS is not a gold sink. A gold sink implies money is exiting the game. With SS, it is simply changing hands.
I am actually not so sure it’s going to get nerfed any time soon, but who knows. Seems pretty obvious they knew what the were doing when they released, and because there are trade offs with AOE, it seems to have its place on the balance scale. It also helps that it’s really not OP in PVP.1 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭For my Sorc...no
Personally I prefer the added sustain that comes from using Bright-Throat as my second set, since 2k magicka is worth a fair amount of spell damage stillValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »And then next update ZoS comes and puts down the Hammer of Nerf on Spell Strategist, and the forum will be filled again with people crying how their new op set got trashed.
I imagine it's getting nerfed Q1 (MA was nerfed the next over patch too). ZOS is fine with using SS as a temporary gold sink.
SS is not a gold sink. A gold sink implies money is exiting the game. With SS, it is simply changing hands.
I am actually not so sure it’s going to get nerfed any time soon, but who knows. Seems pretty obvious they knew what the were doing when they released, and because there are trade offs with AOE, it seems to have its place on the balance scale. It also helps that it’s really not OP in PVP.
You're right. It's not a gold sink.
I would imagine they will nerf it as it's currently the undisputed BiS set for all magicka classes. MA was the same. There is a trade-off, sure, but it's extremely minor given how effective it is in most fights.Edited by MLGProPlayer on November 25, 2018 10:15PM0 -
Ufretin✭✭✭✭✭
MLGProPlayer wrote: »
You're probably right, but most players don't do the maths themselves and just run whatever Alcast and others recommend. If he'd post some absurd Smuggler/Beekeeper build, prices for those sets would skyrocket 2 -
Jakx✭✭✭✭✭It was put in RoTW to encourage people to try PvP and attempt to get it. Its power was known and its source was intentional. It was never meant as a pvp set but a pve set that encouraged PvE'ers to try PvP. Clever reallyJoined September 20131
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WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »
You need cleave on all of those except vAS+0
vMoL first boss panthers, second boss black/white adds, last boss hulks/assassins depending on HM or not
Last boss vHoF fabricant spawns
You don't need to emphasize cleave in those. All dps do cleave as a part of their rotations, and those adds die to those skills. Places vAS+1 or +2, you have to put more into cleave than the others."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
Bring Back Pure Class Build Power0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »WuffyCerulei wrote: »
You need cleave on all of those except vAS+0
vMoL first boss panthers, second boss black/white adds, last boss hulks/assassins depending on HM or not
Last boss vHoF fabricant spawns
You don't need to emphasize cleave in those. All dps do cleave as a part of their rotations, and those adds die to those skills. Places vAS+1 or +2, you have to put more into cleave than the others.
And you still lose a lot of spell damage on that cleave when using Spell Strat compared to BSW, Bright-Throat, MS, etc etcValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Sparr0w✭✭✭✭✭
✭Like 5% single target dps over BSW or MA, they have cleave but there's not many fights where you need the best cleave damage, adds melt quick enough anyway. For fights with multiple bosses you can swap target every 4-5 seconds with SS so again cleave isn't really needed.
Everyone said the same about Siroria only being a target dummy set but I and many others use it in most fights, even CR & MoL. Just adjusting your playstyle to keep both of these sets up.@Sparr0w so I get the notification
Xbox (EU) - l Sparrow x | CP 810+DD: All Mag + StamPC (EU) - Sparrxw | CP 810+
Heal: Templar | Sorc | NB | Warden | Necro
Tank: NB | DK | Warden
Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GHDD: All Mag + Stam
Heal: Templar | Sorc
Tank: DK | NB
Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH + GS1 -
Surak73✭✭✭✭✭"Is Spell Strategist THAT GOOD?"
It is. Just wear that together with Siroria and Zaan, and you will become the terror of all tamrielic dummies...
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