Why Does Nobody Use Synergies?

red_emu · November 2018

As a PvP'er, synergies are worse than Undaunted chests. You can mash that synergy button till your finger bleeds and nothing

kargen27 · November 2018

vgabor wrote: »

Yeah, I also noticed with my dk tank, that very few people in pugs activate the synergy on my talons... I also don't see the point wearing alkosh there, it's juts the occasional shards here and there, very rarely see any orbs... (although do I agree, that for healing in a 4 person dungeon orbs are overkill, the regeneration from the resto skill like is good for hot)

Unless DPS is struggling I go through my entire rotation even on content that doesn't need it. That means I keep ele drain up for entire fight combat prayer for most the fight (sometimes miss getting back to it before it expires when I need to work in a heavy attack) one shard in front of the tank each rotation and three orbs scattered about. Also get my healing springs in each rotation even if everybody is at 100%. I started doing this because it is easy to slip into bad habits if you stray from your rotation. If DPS is really struggling I'll switch out to a couple of DPS skills but try to work them into the rotation as close as I can to what my healing rotation would be.

Usually the shards are popped by someone. I think players learn sooner what those are and they are easy to pop. The bubbles often just float away. When none of them are being popped and I am fairly sure I am with new players I will tell them they should try and pop them. Doesn't really bother me when they are ignored though. I'm still putting them out.

Until recently when doing trials I would ignore the other healers bubbles floating my way. I finally decided somebody has to pop them so it might as well be me. The others had their chance and let them float on by.

For some reason on my tank I ignore the shards until I really need them. I know that isn't the smartest thing to do and am trying to get better at activating them but I don't tank near as often as I heal so it is easy to slip back into the bad habit of ignoring synergies.

DPS I am pretty good about hitting them if I know the tank doesn't need it. DPS my rotation is a train wreck anyway because I suck at weaving in a light attack so hitting a synergy doesn't really interrupt any kind of flow a good DPS might have in their rotation.

Sarousse · November 2018

Useless and boring system.

The only fun part is if you use triple harmony jewerly.

mague · November 2018

Viserys_Varanis wrote: »

Roleplayers who try to get their random dungeon daily reward.

Nope, its those who dont need any synergy.

idk · November 2018

OP is using GF and wondering why no one is grabbing synergies?

GF is not exactly where the more experienced player flock to when they are looking for players to run with. They tend to be in guilds and have people to run with. That is the case for moderately experienced and skilled players on up.

eliisra · November 2018

I only grab synergies when i need them, so that's also why people ignore them. I try to be mindful and not just mash them all, since someone else might need it.

Another reason is players(mainly healer+support) not aiming properly or dropping them in inconvenient spots. I'm not gonna run around half the room trying to catch the orb or find the shard pop up.

I think those reasons are way more common than people not knowing about the synergy system.

But I always activate synergies from ultimates though.

munster1404 · November 2018

Synergies are still rather buggy for me while tanking. Sometimes they go off, other times I will be mashing the synergy button to no avail. Since I PUG exclusively, some players have the habit of robbing synergies meant for Tanks.

Koensol · November 2018

Sheezabeast wrote: »

OMG I know!! Everyone ignores my bubbles.....why you ignore bubbles???

Not everyone needs bubbles to sustain. Especially in dungeons, where fights are short. Using synergies when you don't need them is a dps loss.

Gargath · November 2018

Please don't call people incompetent just because they choose to not use other players' synergies.
There is no obligation to use synergies, even if they give some benefits.
I sometimes use synergies, but not all the time.

You wear Alkosh by choice, but people have the right to care not about it. By the way isn't the Alkosh one of those sets associated with bis/elitists? That also may be a reason for some people.
If you are unsatisfied because your pug doesn't listen, try grouping with guildies.

And pls. change the title of thread, nobody is a lie.

IwakuraLain42 · November 2018

Quite a few players don’t know what synergies are or what they do. Also activating them is still not easy, at least not when using a controller. The latest changes didn’t changed that much.

pod88kk · November 2018

I eat up synergies in a trial nom Nom nom

Protossyder · November 2018

Unfortunately I can't control my trigger finger.
Doesn't matter if it's bubbles, shards, talons, liquid lightning, storm atro, nova, ritual, Dk standard, blood altar, bone shield, consuming darkness or whatever, I will take it. vHRC hm hardest trial

DLM · November 2018

jrgray93 wrote: »

If I use the dungeon finder, it seems like the vast majority of groups I get in don't activate my synergies. Worse yet, a lot don't use abilities that have one, so my sets like Alkosh go to waste. Free sustain and damage isn't a good enough incentive to press a key?

It's been a while since I've played the tutorial but I feel like it should stress these. People legitimately have no idea what they're doing.

I don't because I don't know what they are doing. While some of them are intuitive, the game is doing a *** poor job at telling us what the hell you are going to do with the rest of them.

Runs · November 2018

Afraid they will get yelled at for stealing someone else's shard.

-edit- Yes, I have heard tanks *** about this.

Minyassa · November 2018

I hit X every time a synergy pops up, but most of the time nothing happens. I guess there's a cooldown?

Kaspar · November 2018

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thedude33 · November 2018

I have a very tough time seeing them.

GreenhaloX · November 2018

As someone who is practically a soloist in this game, I don't slot those other Undaunted or Mage skills that push out synergy because I rather slot more pressing dd/dps class/weapon skills. However, if someone throw out any synergy, I'll use it. Well, certain class skills also send out synergy. So, it's auto slotted. To me, sets like Alkosh and trial sets are better suited for trials, and it helps in vet DLC dungeons; but, not really needed for the average PvE contents, normal dungeons or world bosses.

Malprave · November 2018

As somebody who plays a tank I can speak for myself and say I try to hit all of them. The only ones I don’t get are where they are just too far out of reach or I missed one because things went sideways for whatever reason.
I think it depends on your tank a lot which is really just a group quality issue, and for that I can only recommend patience and communication and generally treating others in the game as you want to be treated.

Veinblood1965 · November 2018

I'm Magsorc with pet and newish to pug normal dungeons and I use them as much as possible even when I don't know what they do. I lookem up on google as I go along. Love the Blessed Shards!

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Synergy

BTW are some of these synergies the blue orbs that float around? I just noticed those and stay away from them as I thought they were mob dots etc.

Gatviper · November 2018

Always trying to activate those synergies when a prompt appears. Since I'm moving around much as a DD, sometimes I miss them too, but mostly trying to backtrack to get them anyway. Most of them are adding a chunk to my dps.
I'd think not everybody has been doing the Undaunted skilltree though for the passive which gives resources from that, maybe many don't even know they can get an Undaunted skilltree.

The days when players had to investigate hard to optimize their toons for group content are a bit past, unfortunately. Easy-mode overland and Crown Shop cosmetics are current fashion, like it or not it's a fact.

lihentian · November 2018

because there are so many of them, people like me don't know what they do...

mustangmorgan31 · November 2018

Sheezabeast wrote: »

OMG I know!! Everyone ignores my bubbles.....why you ignore bubbles???

lol yep every time I throw the bubbles out I watch them roll on their marry way without being activated. Today on Vet Blackheart a "so called tank" wasn't blocking on a boss and got one-shotted and then said, "sorry, I have no stamina." Well try activating the plethora of shards I have been throwing! SMH

emilyhyoyeon · November 2018

honestly I feel like people don't really care

xxthir13enxx · November 2018

A lot of the time I think the game misses it...I’ve attempted to trigger multiple synergies for it to have no effect

Shraar · November 2018

I don't know, man, it's like when he asks you to be exclusive and you're like "He's nice and I like him but how can I be sure he is "THE ONE"""""

so when you offer that synergy, its like no, im okay where we're at, i dont want to be more. sorry?

AcadianPaladin · November 2018

Mr_Walker wrote: »

I love healers who supply shards between trash mobs. Bless you. especially with the speed some people like to try and finish these dungeons at.

This is the kind of feedback my healer loves to hear! She does indeed toss shards after fights. She learned that from my tank. My DK tank has typical low stam regen and is often low on green after a fight. Yet, if he hopes to control the next pull, he is instantly running to keep up with his racing pug while hoping his green and blue are full before he needs them.

Sevn · November 2018

I use em all the time, even out of combat lol. I just really like the reaction when you activate them! Plus it adds to my ultimate count I believe?

leeux · November 2018

There are some synergies that still aren't usable in the middle of a rotation (i.e. your animations blocks them from popping up, or make them disappear earlier, IDK) or they're way too short to be able to react in time (they disappear before your finish your current animation, for example.)

Case in point -> Talon's or Banner synergies. Radius is too short, they appear to you only when you're not actively fighting or moving and when they appear, they last just a second or two at most... not sure if the issue here is the short duration, or the small radius, tbh.

I'm always using them when I have the chance, but most of the time I have to stop my rotation in preparation for the DK casting the ability to be able to use them effectively.

The only kinda reliable ones are Orbs and Shards, and some of the warden ones that seem to stay in place a longer time, and they still have a cooldown of 20 secs between uses.

Gatviper · November 2018

If you're gonna activate a synergy and hope it will do its effect, you better be sure to do nothing else while it's activated, no block, no move, no casting an ability, cause they often break up and your own action takes precedence instead.
But if you time it right, it adds up to your 1 ability + weave / second without lowering your usual output. And if you don't (try to) use it, you're missing up on a chance to claim that extra edge to your performance. If you're that good, you don't need it? I guess? You know what they say, overconfidence can lead to failure.