No, there is not.happyhughes2001 wrote: »Is there anyway in game to buy mounts other than horses (with in game currency).
They should have, but they have not.Knootewoot wrote: »They shoud at least have Guars available in Morrowind stables.
TheShadowScout wrote: »No, there is not.happyhughes2001 wrote: »Is there anyway in game to buy mounts other than horses (with in game currency).
There are -some- ways to get a mount without paying crowns, sort of... like getting lucky with daily reward crown crates or the current indrik thing... there has been a certain senche back in the days of loyalty rewards, and other promotional stuff like the nix-ox...
But generally... if you want a "nifty" mount, you gotta shell out crowns. Well, or find someone else who might agree to buy it for you as a gift I guess.They should have, but they have not.Knootewoot wrote: »They shoud at least have Guars available in Morrowind stables.
They also should have camels in alik'r stables, and such... but again, looking towards further profits, they put all the "special" mounts into the crown store.
Makes one wish the game had stayed subscription powered because then ALL those might have been in-game instead of the crown store, but alas... ship, sailed, sunk, long time.
DaveMoeDee wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »No, there is not.happyhughes2001 wrote: »Is there anyway in game to buy mounts other than horses (with in game currency).
There are -some- ways to get a mount without paying crowns, sort of... like getting lucky with daily reward crown crates or the current indrik thing... there has been a certain senche back in the days of loyalty rewards, and other promotional stuff like the nix-ox...
But generally... if you want a "nifty" mount, you gotta shell out crowns. Well, or find someone else who might agree to buy it for you as a gift I guess.They should have, but they have not.Knootewoot wrote: »They shoud at least have Guars available in Morrowind stables.
They also should have camels in alik'r stables, and such... but again, looking towards further profits, they put all the "special" mounts into the crown store.
Makes one wish the game had stayed subscription powered because then ALL those might have been in-game instead of the crown store, but alas... ship, sailed, sunk, long time.
Good luck leveling all those mounts individually like we did back then!
Edit: I'm sure they would have implemented the changes though once they started adding fancy mounts.
DaveMoeDee wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »No, there is not.happyhughes2001 wrote: »Is there anyway in game to buy mounts other than horses (with in game currency).
There are -some- ways to get a mount without paying crowns, sort of... like getting lucky with daily reward crown crates or the current indrik thing... there has been a certain senche back in the days of loyalty rewards, and other promotional stuff like the nix-ox...
But generally... if you want a "nifty" mount, you gotta shell out crowns. Well, or find someone else who might agree to buy it for you as a gift I guess.They should have, but they have not.Knootewoot wrote: »They shoud at least have Guars available in Morrowind stables.
They also should have camels in alik'r stables, and such... but again, looking towards further profits, they put all the "special" mounts into the crown store.
Makes one wish the game had stayed subscription powered because then ALL those might have been in-game instead of the crown store, but alas... ship, sailed, sunk, long time.
Good luck leveling all those mounts individually like we did back then!
Edit: I'm sure they would have implemented the changes though once they started adding fancy mounts.
As someone with 15 characters I'd much prefer leveling account-wide mounts to the current riding skill per character.
TheShadowScout wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »No, there is not.happyhughes2001 wrote: »Is there anyway in game to buy mounts other than horses (with in game currency).
There are -some- ways to get a mount without paying crowns, sort of... like getting lucky with daily reward crown crates or the current indrik thing... there has been a certain senche back in the days of loyalty rewards, and other promotional stuff like the nix-ox...
But generally... if you want a "nifty" mount, you gotta shell out crowns. Well, or find someone else who might agree to buy it for you as a gift I guess.They should have, but they have not.Knootewoot wrote: »They shoud at least have Guars available in Morrowind stables.
They also should have camels in alik'r stables, and such... but again, looking towards further profits, they put all the "special" mounts into the crown store.
Makes one wish the game had stayed subscription powered because then ALL those might have been in-game instead of the crown store, but alas... ship, sailed, sunk, long time.
Good luck leveling all those mounts individually like we did back then!
Edit: I'm sure they would have implemented the changes though once they started adding fancy mounts.
As someone with 15 characters I'd much prefer leveling account-wide mounts to the current riding skill per character.
You misunderstood.
Back in the day, the "mount levelling" was -individual- too! So instead of having one "riding" per character, you had one set of stats per mount per character, and all mounts were character specific, so if you had one character with a black horse, none of the other characters had access to that until they got one individually.
Same for the training, if you bought a new, better horse... you started training it from scratch.
TheShadowScout wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »No, there is not.happyhughes2001 wrote: »Is there anyway in game to buy mounts other than horses (with in game currency).
There are -some- ways to get a mount without paying crowns, sort of... like getting lucky with daily reward crown crates or the current indrik thing... there has been a certain senche back in the days of loyalty rewards, and other promotional stuff like the nix-ox...
But generally... if you want a "nifty" mount, you gotta shell out crowns. Well, or find someone else who might agree to buy it for you as a gift I guess.They should have, but they have not.Knootewoot wrote: »They shoud at least have Guars available in Morrowind stables.
They also should have camels in alik'r stables, and such... but again, looking towards further profits, they put all the "special" mounts into the crown store.
Makes one wish the game had stayed subscription powered because then ALL those might have been in-game instead of the crown store, but alas... ship, sailed, sunk, long time.
Good luck leveling all those mounts individually like we did back then!
Edit: I'm sure they would have implemented the changes though once they started adding fancy mounts.
As someone with 15 characters I'd much prefer leveling account-wide mounts to the current riding skill per character.
You misunderstood.
Back in the day, the "mount levelling" was -individual- too! So instead of having one "riding" per character, you had one set of stats per mount per character, and all mounts were character specific, so if you had one character with a black horse, none of the other characters had access to that until they got one individually.
Same for the training, if you bought a new, better horse... you started training it from scratch.
I have to admit my memory just ain't what it used to be (I'm nearly 70 after all ) but I remember it as account wide mounts with account wide mount skills. Am I remembering a rosy idealized version?
TheShadowScout wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »TheShadowScout wrote: »No, there is not.happyhughes2001 wrote: »Is there anyway in game to buy mounts other than horses (with in game currency).
There are -some- ways to get a mount without paying crowns, sort of... like getting lucky with daily reward crown crates or the current indrik thing... there has been a certain senche back in the days of loyalty rewards, and other promotional stuff like the nix-ox...
But generally... if you want a "nifty" mount, you gotta shell out crowns. Well, or find someone else who might agree to buy it for you as a gift I guess.They should have, but they have not.Knootewoot wrote: »They shoud at least have Guars available in Morrowind stables.
They also should have camels in alik'r stables, and such... but again, looking towards further profits, they put all the "special" mounts into the crown store.
Makes one wish the game had stayed subscription powered because then ALL those might have been in-game instead of the crown store, but alas... ship, sailed, sunk, long time.
Good luck leveling all those mounts individually like we did back then!
Edit: I'm sure they would have implemented the changes though once they started adding fancy mounts.
As someone with 15 characters I'd much prefer leveling account-wide mounts to the current riding skill per character.
You misunderstood.
Back in the day, the "mount levelling" was -individual- too! So instead of having one "riding" per character, you had one set of stats per mount per character, and all mounts were character specific, so if you had one character with a black horse, none of the other characters had access to that until they got one individually.
Same for the training, if you bought a new, better horse... you started training it from scratch.
I have to admit my memory just ain't what it used to be (I'm nearly 70 after all ) but I remember it as account wide mounts with account wide mount skills. Am I remembering a rosy idealized version?
Yes.
Account wide mounts were introduced one update before the subscription became optional (I want to say update 6, but I may be remembering wrong), which is when we got the system we have now.
Before that it was like @TheShadowScout described - each character had to unlock and train each mount individually. Even the white horse which came with the Imperial Edition - you had to find a stable and pay 1g to unlock it and then it was only available to that character, others had to buy it seperately. Instead of training riding skills you fed the horse, so it only affected the one horse.
Each of the gold purchased horses had their own advantages - the brown one was cheaper but started with no skills and each of the others started with 10 points in something and could raise that skill to 70 instead of 60. (If I remember correctly the paint horse was carry capacity, the bay was speed and the black was stamina.) So buying a horse was a commitment - you picked the best one for you and trained it up and if you swapped you had to start over.
I'm pretty sure they scrapped that system and went to the one we have now partially because they were planning to introduce new mounts in the crown store and knew they wouldn't sell as well if players had to abandon all the training they'd done and start over each time they got a new one.
Pets were similar - they were inventory items and you could only use them on the character who was carrying them. If you wanted to swap them you had to go to the bank.
(And we had to walk 10 miles in the snow, up hill both ways, to do it!)
Yeah, that would be it. Or maybe... remembered what people dreamed about when they were cursing about the choice to buy a horse -now- or save up for one of the good ones later...I have to admit my memory just ain't what it used to be (I'm nearly 70 after all ) but I remember it as account wide mounts with account wide mount skills. Am I remembering a rosy idealized version?
And that will never happen.Still... the way I misremembered it (account wide mount skills) would be best.
TheShadowScout wrote: »And that will never happen.Still... the way I misremembered it (account wide mount skills) would be best.
Since they -do- sell horse training lessons in the crown store...
...so making the whole thing account wide would destroy and future profits from that, AND vex those of little patience but heavy wallet who already did shell out for it.
Anyone who suggests that at ZOS would likely get fired after the suits in charge had a litte laugh about it...
The best we can reasonably hope for might be a way to have riding training stack like enlightment for those who cannot log in daily, but play more on the weekends, but... once again, I doubt they will do that to make them despair and boy crown store riding lessions again...
TheShadowScout wrote: »Yeah, that would be it. Or maybe... remembered what people dreamed about when they were cursing about the choice to buy a horse -now- or save up for one of the good ones later...I have to admit my memory just ain't what it used to be (I'm nearly 70 after all ) but I remember it as account wide mounts with account wide mount skills. Am I remembering a rosy idealized version?
As has been said, they only changed the mounts to "character-specific rididng" with the coming of the crown store, to make it easier for people to "upgrade" their old horseys to nifty new mounts, again and again, so they can keep raking in profits from the next new mount there...
...on the bright side, the horses before only had 50 feedings in -total-; to be distributed among the stats as the player choose (with the special horses having an inneate +10 bonus to one stat), so things were often a bit iffy... after, we got 180 riding strainings, and could max -each- stat to 60 instead of having to choose if we wanted to ride the gatherers pack horse today or the fast cyrodil racehorse or the tough warhorse...And that will never happen.Still... the way I misremembered it (account wide mount skills) would be best.
Since they -do- sell horse training lessons in the crown store...
...so making the whole thing account wide would destroy and future profits from that, AND vex those of little patience but heavy wallet who already did shell out for it.
Anyone who suggests that at ZOS would likely get fired after the suits in charge had a litte laugh about it...
The best we can reasonably hope for might be a way to have riding training stack like enlightment for those who cannot log in daily, but play more on the weekends, but... once again, I doubt they will do that to make them despair and boy crown store riding lessions again...