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PVE Balance - Riiight
MakeMeUhSamich
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Watched a clip from a guildie today burning the 2nd vICP Boss before his first shield phase. Group: Tank, MagBlade, and two StamBlades.
Surely they had to make some tough choices whilst speccing for both defense and sustainability. /s
This makes healers necessary?
This is why my MagSorc’s shield is now 1/3 what it was?
Yep, pretty salty.
Surely they had to make some tough choices whilst speccing for both defense and sustainability. /s
This makes healers necessary?
This is why my MagSorc’s shield is now 1/3 what it was?
Yep, pretty salty.
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karekiz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ICP doesn't count as much.
I agree though that shield nerf doesn't "Make healz required now lol" as groups have ran Tank - 3 stam DPS before anyway.Edited by karekiz on November 20, 2018 12:16AM0 -
Onefrkncrzypope✭✭✭✭✭
✭How old is that dlc. We just grew past it. It happens. At least your mag Sorc brings some good stuff to groups. My main is sdk. Used to be damage so it was fine but now it's an unwanted class.
Roll with the punches and stop worrying about shields. All mag has that issue now. Sorcs aren't unique in that struggle.-Immortal Redeemer-
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If I edited a post, it was for spelling. It is always because of spelling....2 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Self heals are not the issues, it's tank heals and how much support they do or don't need.
Warden tanks are currently the king of 1 tank, 3dps content with the trees ultimate and blood alter.
If the tank can die to something other than a 1 shot then you need a healer. If they tank can't die then the dps can self heal even if it costs "some" dps and it'll still be easier than bringing a healer.0 -
CrimsonGTX✭✭✭The shield change never was gonna make "healers necessary", it was just a lazy excuse to not fix the issue they presented in the game. Same thing with the Major Expedition nerf across the board.
The increase to CP caused a power creep and when they buffed light attack damage things escalated much more. Self-heals, and shields were not the issue in PvE. If people can kill things faster with 3 dps what's the point in bringing in a healer? But zos take blame for that also because most of the content is a dps race, and in my experience the healer usually end up dying first anyway.Sorc & Warden Main - PC NA(CP 1k+) & Xbox NA (CP 1k+)1 -
Rungar✭✭✭✭✭
✭i dont find healers to be needed that much at all to be honest.
i actually think merging the tank/healer role would be a good thing. All Templars secretly want to be heavy armored clerics and paladins anyway. it would be a bold move lol.Edited by Rungar on November 20, 2018 2:17AMOld Rungar always gives what's needed.
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ccfeeling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Try the latest DLC HM , healer is always welcome , you burn you get more troubles
VFL HM
VSCP HM
VMOS HM
VMHK HM
VBRP HM1 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Here is the definition of a slippery slope argument from the Wiki in case anyone needed it (especially the OP).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
Edited by Taleof2Cities on November 20, 2018 3:06AM0 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ICP is old af. Of course you can go in there without a healer. Same with WGT. Their mechanics and damage haven't been updated in years. However, this isn't the same with the newer dungeons. Many mechanics require a healer to keep everyone up."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
Bring Back Pure Class Build Power0 -
Vildebill✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You guys are almost 3 years late regarding burning Ibomez, look at this old goldie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lFZzN1o2jM
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/246012/who-needs-a-healer-for-pve-pvp-content-anyway-just-roll-a-mag-sorc-d/
So no, it's not power creep, healer issue, nightblade or whatever you want to blame. It's just good players, and there will always be good players.EU PC2 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭its a problem with dungeon and trial design not shields or self heals but hey lets nerf them both because its easier than fixing dungeons0 -
Girl_Number8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭i dont find healers to be needed that much at all to be honest.
i actually think merging the tank/healer role would be a good thing. All Templars secretly want to be heavy armored clerics and paladins anyway. it would be a bold move lol.
That already was available. It was a fun to play but it was nerfed into the dust. As many of the niche builds were.
Edited by Girl_Number8 on November 20, 2018 9:41AM0
