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Remove quick mending for argonian
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✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »SydneyGrey wrote: »Argonians are balanced by not having huge bonuses to total magicka/stamina, or to mag/stam regeneration outside of potions. Leave them alone.
Stop wanting to nerf everything.
Lol wut?
Argonians get +9% to health, to their main base stat. Only Imperials, Redguard and Altmer got slightly more. Still, Imperials are underdog both in tanking and stamina dps and Altmer and Redguard are BIS. So in base resource Argonian are on BIS level while keeping best sustain and whopping +5/5%% to healing received/done. Basically, most imbalanced race of all 10, that is clear for everybody.
Psst, Dunmer is actually BiS unless you're a very specific spec of Sorcerer.
Just a correction
Correction to what? top builds for magsorcs and magblades are altmers.. well, magdk benefits more from dunmer, but that is magdk. Ok, let's put dunmer on altmer level (though altmer is excellent healer too), this doesn't change that argonian have same bonus to main stat like 3 BIS races, though they don't have such sustain (obviously dunmer don't have any) and healing.
Argonian is IMBA. I-M-B-A. You may argue about khajits, imperials and breton viability in comparison to mentioned above BIS and tell that bosmer and orc have their niche role in PVP, but non of them can be so good in so many roles like lizard.
Except...what is your damage if it isn't Magic? That's right, it's fire.
Blockade of Elements, Light Attacks, and Enchantments which is a massive part of your DPS.
Like I said, only BiS for certain SorcsValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
BWS2K✭✭✭Ok, so I think two things that need to be included in this conversation: 1) the difference between balanced for PvP and PvE, and 2) the difference between parity and balanced. With the one, you'll never reach an acceptable compromise because the the two are fundamentally at odds - I want to play a unique race vs. I want an equal chance of success on the battlefield. Exclusivity and homogeny are opposites. With the second, there are so many more variables beyond race so as to make a discussion about 'supremacy' based only on race moot. The saying 'all other things equal, these are best' is only useful as a hypothetical because all things are rarely equal.
This isn't a criticism on the dialogue thus far but I've been in enough of these threads to know it goes nowhere if we don't nail those kinds of things down. Nobody should want the races to be completely equal in all regards. Argonians, for instance, should be as good at healing as another race is at DPS, etc. - and that appears to be pretty close to what we have right now. That Meta-minded folks are playing to the Meta should not only be unsurprising but is literally impossible to stop - as long as we preserve the distinctions between the various races and their strengths.
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firedrgn✭✭✭✭✭No one even played argonian cept for rp before the mega nerffs of morowind. Just shows they over nerffed in morowind.
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nemvar✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »- Imperials have melee attacks that restore Max Health, thus they are way ahead of others when it comes to tanking so it needs to be removed.
HE DID IT! THE MADMAN! 750 health on a 10% chance on melee attack OP! Worthy of 4 set bonuses!3