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Crystal Blast Spam VS. Force Pulse / Crystal Fragments

Mushroomking311
I've been using Crystal Blast as a spammable on my sorc since like level 8, and today I decided to look up some builds/guides only to find that literally everyone says that's terrible and to use FP/CF instead. So I went and changed over to try and use that instead and I'm noticing that it seems to be worse in every single way so I'm wondering if I'm just doing something wrong?

People are saying CB has a cast time which inherently makes it worse since "when you're casting you're not doing damage." But CB only really has a cast time on the first cast, after that it spams just as fast as FP does (literally like 10% slower) except it does 2x the single target damage, 4x the AoE, and has a stun to boot. I've been trying out the FP/CF for a few hours now and it's underperforming by a massive margin in every situation so far not to mention the fact that I've replaced one higher-performing ability with 2 abilities that add up to be lower than the single did. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong?
  • frostz417
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    Crystal blast spamming is the most zergling thing you can ever do
  • Mushroomking311
    frostz417 wrote: »
    Crystal blast spamming is the most zergling thing you can ever do

    ...is that a bad thing?
  • Erraln
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    You're not light attacking between skills, are you?
  • Mushroomking311
    Erraln wrote: »
    You're not light attacking between skills, are you?

    Not with CB spam, I've yet to see any reason to. I've tried it with FP/CF, though. It didn't seem to help me much except with some sustain on longer ST fights...
  • Royaji
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    Your answer is simple. You are not playing the type of content where it actually matters. Crystal Blast is absolutely fine for overland and pew pew from zergs. It might feel easier to use for an inexperienced player. It is a terrible skill for anything with a bit of difficulty.
  • usmcjdking
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    I think the only time I used Crystal Blast in PVE when I was memeing with DW melee magsorc.

    Trash DPS (like 31k buffed) but lol it was fun.
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  • Mushroomking311
    Royaji wrote: »
    Your answer is simple. You are not playing the type of content where it actually matters. Crystal Blast is absolutely fine for overland and pew pew from zergs. It might feel easier to use for an inexperienced player. It is a terrible skill for anything with a bit of difficulty.

    Guess that makes sense, I'm not exactly a hardcore player or anything. Mostly all I do are vets and BGs, never even done a trial and I don't care much for Cyrodiil. Now that I think of it most of the people who are making this suggestion are probably doing trials.
  • evoniee
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    crysyal frag proc hit harder than sNB incap for sure
  • frostz417
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    frostz417 wrote: »
    Crystal blast spamming is the most zergling thing you can ever do

    ...is that a bad thing?

    Yes
  • ZeroXFF
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    Royaji wrote: »
    Your answer is simple. You are not playing the type of content where it actually matters. Crystal Blast is absolutely fine for overland and pew pew from zergs. It might feel easier to use for an inexperienced player. It is a terrible skill for anything with a bit of difficulty.

    Guess that makes sense, I'm not exactly a hardcore player or anything. Mostly all I do are vets and BGs, never even done a trial and I don't care much for Cyrodiil. Now that I think of it most of the people who are making this suggestion are probably doing trials.

    If you're doing it in vets, you are doing content where it matters, especially if you're ever doing the DLC vets. There you're probably being carried. What people should be asking is, what else are you doing, and what gear are you wearing? Because if you're using War Maiden + Soulshine, it wouldn't surprise me at all if CB spam gives you your best DPS, which still wouldn't be anywhere near the "actually good" mark.
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Erraln wrote: »
    You're not light attacking between skills, are you?

    Not with CB spam, I've yet to see any reason to. I've tried it with FP/CF, though. It didn't seem to help me much except with some sustain on longer ST fights...

    Light attacks are literally 25% of DPS when you do it right. You are losing so much if you don't.
  • Feanor
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    evoniee wrote: »
    crysyal frag proc hit harder than sNB incap for sure

    On an all out damage build with 0 sustain and no survivability. Maybe.

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  • Zelos
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    I've been using Crystal Blast as a spammable on my sorc since like level 8, and today I decided to look up some builds/guides only to find that literally everyone says that's terrible and to use FP/CF instead. So I went and changed over to try and use that instead and I'm noticing that it seems to be worse in every single way so I'm wondering if I'm just doing something wrong?

    People are saying CB has a cast time which inherently makes it worse since "when you're casting you're not doing damage." But CB only really has a cast time on the first cast, after that it spams just as fast as FP does (literally like 10% slower) except it does 2x the single target damage, 4x the AoE, and has a stun to boot. I've been trying out the FP/CF for a few hours now and it's underperforming by a massive margin in every situation so far not to mention the fact that I've replaced one higher-performing ability with 2 abilities that add up to be lower than the single did. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong?

    Most of the forum users are trolls fed up with the game. Crystal blast isnt good for multiple reasons. It has a cast time, bad for lining up a burst as it wastes a CC, and it is just bad compared to its counterpart of Crystal frags which. Is a instant cast, cost less helping sustain,and does more damage. Light attacking is a large chunk of dps in this game and you want to get use to light attacking between every skill, and abilities with a cast time take away from a large part if that. Doing this math crystal blast hits for let's say 15k so spamming that will do 15k. Using force pulse and crystal frag will do the 9 to 10k from pulse us the 3k light attack and a 17k or higher crystal frag and force pulse CAN be a aoe:) does this make sense?
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  • Beardimus
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    Go to a DPS dummy and test dude.

    Clearing PvE mobs etc isn't a true test. Get some data.
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  • NordSwordnBoard
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    Royaji wrote: »
    Your answer is simple. You are not playing the type of content where it actually matters. Crystal Blast is absolutely fine for overland and pew pew from zergs. It might feel easier to use for an inexperienced player. It is a terrible skill for anything with a bit of difficulty.

    Guess that makes sense, I'm not exactly a hardcore player or anything. Mostly all I do are vets and BGs, never even done a trial and I don't care much for Cyrodiil. Now that I think of it most of the people who are making this suggestion are probably doing trials.

    Weaving is key to decent dps. Did you crystal blast your way through the vet dlc dungeons? I'm guessing you use other skills, like shields, heals, and something else. Please tell me there is something else lol.
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  • MalagenR
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    I've been using Crystal Blast as a spammable on my sorc since like level 8, and today I decided to look up some builds/guides only to find that literally everyone says that's terrible and to use FP/CF instead. So I went and changed over to try and use that instead and I'm noticing that it seems to be worse in every single way so I'm wondering if I'm just doing something wrong?

    People are saying CB has a cast time which inherently makes it worse since "when you're casting you're not doing damage." But CB only really has a cast time on the first cast, after that it spams just as fast as FP does (literally like 10% slower) except it does 2x the single target damage, 4x the AoE, and has a stun to boot. I've been trying out the FP/CF for a few hours now and it's underperforming by a massive margin in every situation so far not to mention the fact that I've replaced one higher-performing ability with 2 abilities that add up to be lower than the single did. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong?

    I'd suggest looking up some video's of DPS rotations that the best Sorc's are using to pull 30-40k DPS with. What you're probably missing is light attack weaving.
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