when someone asks a question in zone chat/guild chat...
phermitgb
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and you don't have an answer, or your answer is "no" (as in - anyone wanna run a dungeon")...
do you reply in the negative? or just leave empty silence?
I find myself, lately, torn between the two - piping up with "No" or "I don't know" seems...well...not helpful. And it isn't, really. On the other hand, if there isn't a timely response in the positive, I wonder if whoever is asking would just like some mild acknowledgment that people actually *heard* the question, and would like any response, rather than just leaving cold silence to stare them in the face.
If someone else replies quickly, I usually don't think about it anymore - but if there's a big pile of empty silence, I debate whether or not the asker wouldn't like someone to respond at all, even if it's not all that helpful
keep in mind that I'm not talking about *sarcastic* responses to fill the silence - I *KNOW* those aren't helpful, and probably aren't appreciated in many cases.
so, I'm just curious - how do you feel? do you prefer any response, even if it's not a direct help to the question? or are you perfectly comfortable with silence if no one has the answer you need?
do you reply in the negative? or just leave empty silence?
I find myself, lately, torn between the two - piping up with "No" or "I don't know" seems...well...not helpful. And it isn't, really. On the other hand, if there isn't a timely response in the positive, I wonder if whoever is asking would just like some mild acknowledgment that people actually *heard* the question, and would like any response, rather than just leaving cold silence to stare them in the face.
If someone else replies quickly, I usually don't think about it anymore - but if there's a big pile of empty silence, I debate whether or not the asker wouldn't like someone to respond at all, even if it's not all that helpful
keep in mind that I'm not talking about *sarcastic* responses to fill the silence - I *KNOW* those aren't helpful, and probably aren't appreciated in many cases.
so, I'm just curious - how do you feel? do you prefer any response, even if it's not a direct help to the question? or are you perfectly comfortable with silence if no one has the answer you need?
"There is no correct resolution; It's a test of character."
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Hippie4927✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Empty silence makes me feel like no one wants to answer even if they know the answer so I prefer any response even if it is not helpful.PC/NA/EP ✌️19 -
phermitgb✭✭✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »Empty silence makes me feel like no one wants to answer even if they know the answer so I prefer any response even if it is not helpful.
I had a feeling some people might feel that way - now I'm curious to see how widespread a feeling it might be"There is no correct resolution; It's a test of character."
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✭✭✭One time when someone asked a question in general chat no one responded at all and the whole general chat went silent for like 5 minutes then I typed NaM and everyone started talking again weird chat1 -
preevious✭✭✭✭✭
✭I usually wait and see if someone answer.
If no one answers, I'll say something, so the asker knows he has been aknoweledged.3 -
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✭✭✭If there is silence to someone asking to run content, I'll often suggest a zone where he/she might get a response, e.g. Belkharth for Trials.
Any question on game play, where to find stuff, etc... I answer immediately if not in combat.
If it's someone obviously new to the game, and if I have time, I'll switch to whisper and provide as much help as I can.
I'll never forget the person who spent time helping me get into trading guilds, so I pass it pn
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leeux✭✭✭✭✭I normally answer even with an "I don't know" (or in the case of looking for help for a dungeon, I normally say that I'm in the middle of something and can't help at that time,) because I feel bad if people don't get an answer... that what's make people leave guilds, you know?
I mean, I reply except when I'm in the middle of some activity that heavily involves "not dying"
Edited by leeux on November 14, 2018 8:43PMPC/NA - Proud old member of the Antique Ordinatus Populus
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~~ «I am forever swimming around, amidst this ocean world we call home... >>»
~~ "Let strength be granted so the world might be mended... so the world might be mended."
~~ "Slash the silver chain that binds thee to life"
~~ Our cries will shrill, the air will moan and crash into the dawn. >>
~~ The sands of time were eroded by the river of constant change >>
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Gargath✭✭✭✭✭
✭If someone says "hello all" in zone chat I usually stay silent to see what happens. PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."0 -
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✭✭In guild chat, if the question is something like "does anyone want to run x", and I'm not already busy, I'll usually try to give a negative reply.
I think that even a negative reply is helpful, at least more so than just dead silence. At least the person asking knows they've been heard. At some point you've got to wonder why you're even in that guild if it keeps happening.2 -
leeux✭✭✭✭✭Seeing the issue from the other PoV, there are genuine reasons for why people won't answer a given chat, even if a guild is fairly active:
* Most people have several chat tabs and filters on them, so they'll probably only see your message if their in the correct tab.
* Fighting/Questing/Dungeoning/Trialing/Crafting/Trading/etc tend to absorb one's attention too much
* I know I used to play with my chat collapsed (and used an addon so that it would *stay* collapsed *ugh*) so, I often seen chat messages a long time after they were posted.
* Alt-switch-itis
You lose a good portion of chat messages while switching alts PC/NA - Proud old member of the Antique Ordinatus Populus
My charsLiana Amnell (AD mSorc L50+, ex EP) =x= Lehnnan Klennett (AD mTemplar L50+ Healer/Support ) =x= Ethim Amnell (AD mDK L50+, ex DC)Leinwyn Valaene (AD mSorc L50+) =x= Levus Artorias (AD mDK-for-now L50+) =x= Madril Ulessen (AD mNB L50+) =x= Lyra Amnis (AD not-Stamplar-yet L50+)I only PvP on AD chars
~~ «And blossoms anew beneath tomorrow's sun >>»
~~ «I am forever swimming around, amidst this ocean world we call home... >>»
~~ "Let strength be granted so the world might be mended... so the world might be mended."
~~ "Slash the silver chain that binds thee to life"
~~ Our cries will shrill, the air will moan and crash into the dawn. >>
~~ The sands of time were eroded by the river of constant change >>
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✭✭✭✭✭i'll normally avoid chatting or speaking, in-game, like the plague...unless i'm farming gear and running the same dungeon over and over again...at which point - i am all in on any kind of random conversation...plus, i'm normally not too sober during those runs, and, that helps make things a little more interesting...
recently though i've switched most of my playing time from the NA server to the EU server (PS4)...it's off hours there, but, seems as though folks are much easier to get along and have fun with...
been having fun branching out on some low key trolling from here on the forums to zone chat in game...
Edited by geonsocal on November 14, 2018 9:03PMPVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place0 -
iAmLife✭✭✭When I'm the one being the guy that asked, if I don't get any response, I just say 'cheers guys, was mad helpful'I'll own you fool, COME AT ME YOU SON OF A GUN, hi names Life... LIKE FOR LIFE kthnxbye3 -
FilteredRiddle✭✭✭✭If someone says something in chat and I know the answer, I respond. If I don’t know the answer or can’t do what they’re asking, I don’t respond. I sort of expect the same from others so a non-response doesn’t really bother me much.Xbox One NA
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Obsidian Guard (Social with PvX Events)Gamers always believe that an epic win is possible and that it's always worth trying, and trying now. Gamers don't sit around.
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Vandril✭✭✭✭I reply in the negative or with an egregiously incorrect answer because, invariably, someone will try to 1-up me by actually answering the question.
Social engineering at its finest.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I almost always reply in the negative in my smaller guilds, rarely for my large trade guilds, and never in zone.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche0 -
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✭Option C: answer in the negative for everyone - "no one wants to do that!'I reply in the negative or with an egregiously incorrect answer because, invariably, someone will try to 1-up me by actually answering the question.
Social engineering at its finest.
Great idea. If you give a false answer some know-it-all will be compelled to speak up.1 -
ihazzit✭✭✭I've tried whispering to the player but never got a response, I guess I'm too far from the screen. I've also tried yelling but that kinda gets the neighbors upset.If you are angry about anything in this game you are only punishing yourself.4 -
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✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »Empty silence makes me feel like no one wants to answer even if they know the answer so I prefer any response even if it is not helpful.
Empty Silence just reinforces the "games dying" aspect.. The person thinks no one around, no ones online = Game is dead..
I try to answer as best i can, if its about dungeons i say i don't do them because of ping.I've tried whispering to the player but never got a response, I guess I'm too far from the screen. I've also tried yelling but that kinda gets the neighbors upset.
If its a new player they might not know how to whisper back?Edited by DanteYoda on November 15, 2018 12:01AM1 -
TaliColdwater✭✭✭It's a relief knowing I'm not the only one who worries about such things. Usually I don't respond if I don't have a helpful answer because I don't want to come across as sarcastic or negative if I do answer "no" or "I don't know" to something. I also don't want someone to be like, thanks for nothing, ha. But I have wondered if they would like some sort of response so they don't feel like they're yelling into the void.0
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NolaArch✭✭✭✭✭Hippie4927 wrote: »Empty silence makes me feel like no one wants to answer even if they know the answer so I prefer any response even if it is not helpful.
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✭i just don't respond...i don't want to put a "no" in chat so that others thank its cool to be a negative jerk...
afterall the person is trying to get help! :-)"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
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Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.0 -
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Note that if some want an group for March of sacrifices HM 03:00 you might recommend that its pledge and prime time, also note to self not to joinHippie4927 wrote: »Empty silence makes me feel like no one wants to answer even if they know the answer so I prefer any response even if it is not helpful. Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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✭✭Option C: answer in the negative for everyone - "no one wants to do that!'I reply in the negative or with an egregiously incorrect answer because, invariably, someone will try to 1-up me by actually answering the question.
Social engineering at its finest.
Great idea. If you give a false answer some know-it-all will be compelled to speak up.
Godwin's Law "the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."1 -
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✭I completely ignore zone chat. Guild chat I only reply if I have something useful to say. 'Yes' is useful information, 'no' is implied by silence.Edited by Ohtimbar on November 15, 2018 1:03AMforever stuck in combat0 -
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✭✭✭I rarely participate in guild chat or in zone chat...I am not naturally chatty, nor do I often look at the scrolling chat box. But if someone asks a question about the game, and I know the answer, I will respond. Especially in a beginner zone where people are new and don’t yet have guilds or in-game friends.0 -
Skua✭✭✭If nobody else is responding and I don't know the answer I attempt to look up the answer or re-direct them towards someone that will have the answer. Google is a fine tool. If it's something like asking if I want to run a dungeon I try and say yes if I am not doing anything or with something like, "I am in the middle of doing x at the moment but maybe later we could run one together when I am finished?" Or "That is beyond my skill level but I'll be cheering you on." I generally try to answer in guild chat 100% of the time if nobody else answers but do sometimes just ignore zone chat.1 -
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✭✭If I don't know or not in a position to help in zone chat I won't respond. I might switch to whisper if I am not sure what is really being asked to avoid cluttering up chat. If I am in a group or guild chat I will always respond regardless of the type of answer.0 -
mingimingi✭✭✭Once, in a strange instance, a guy threw a fit because I answered his question with "I don't know", saying I shouldn't have even said anything in the first place, and basically cussed me out. I was just trying to show that someone had read it and I was tryyyyyyyyyying to be polite >insert Jonah Hill meme here<
Nowadays, I usually burn eyeholes into my screen hoping that someone who does have an answer to their question will respond. If no one says anything, I will respond with a "not sure, sorry m8"
Edited by mingimingi on November 15, 2018 4:19AM2 -
RavenSworn✭✭✭✭✭A response is better than no response. That's like leaving a high five hanging. Very bad manners.Ingame: RavenSworn, Pc / NA.
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LiberatorSam✭✭✭If the person is LF more to run dungeons/trials, the convention is to WHISPER the person, hence no responses in guild chat.1
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phermitgb✭✭✭✭✭thank you all for the replies - as I suspected, there's...not a really strong consensus, as to whether to reply or not. However, it *seems* like the general response is mildly in favor of getting any response, and I guess I'll mostly stick with that
feel like maybe I should have made this a poll, but whatever
I guess responding in chat, yea or nay, is going to be a bit of a crapshoot any way you look at it"There is no correct resolution; It's a test of character."
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