4.2.8 - Nothing about in combat bug - is this a joke ?

Sarousse · November 2018

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Nothing in patch notes about being perma in combat in Cyrodiil since Murkmire patch.

Tons of players have reported this through forums, in game, etc...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5596004#Comment_5596004
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5595998#Comment_5595998
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5588862#Comment_5588862
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5581868#Comment_5581868
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/445477/in-combat-anti-group-system-in-cyrodiil#latest
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/445542/you-can-not-mount-while-in-combat#latest

Not a single answer about this being taken care of on forums. Nothing in patch notes. 3 weeks and still nothing.

It's totally making Cyrodiil unplayable because we just can't teleport because we're stuck in COMBAT for 10, 15, 20+ minutes. Sometimes we even re-enter combat in safe places several minutes after leaving combat.

When will we have this game breaking bug fixed ?

SakuraRush · November 2018

Well a few things. If anyone in your group is in combat then the whole group is. That feels less like a bug and more of a design choice.

The fact that "in combat" is poorly defined is the real issue. Some actions put you in combat some times but not others.

As for this being what makes Cyrodiil unplayable, that's hyperbole. Cyrodiil was unplayable long before this was an issue. It's just the current hot button complaint.

There's no money in fixing Cyrodiil. No voice is loud enough to change this. We have to accept it or move on to another game.

HansaBergen · November 2018

I played my bomber solo yesterday, i left the keep and sat outside Nikel for 15min in combat.. So this is not a group bug only.

supaskrub · November 2018

This bug is almost as annoying as the Cyrodiil perma load screens that hit console around a year ago. I should not have to walk from Ash to Ales on my Templar healer or flap my magwardens wings to get from A to B.. it’s ridiculous.

There’s also another annoying thing, in general overland I can take my Witchmothers while mounted but in Cyrodiil I get a forced dismount, no where near as bad as the “in combat” fiasco, just downright annoying.

Kihamai · November 2018

I almost never group in Cyrodill, and I've been encountering this issue along with the random loading screens while fighting or running. This seriously needs fixed, and hopefully revert the Murkmire change of being able to swap abilities or items on your quick slot bar if you haven't been attacked in like 10 seconds.

DreadKnight · November 2018

I was at the North gate waiting for a scroll to be dropped yesterday (Templar - Vivec Xbox1 NA). I was solo and then suddenly my screen starts glowing red - 'in combat'??? lol I was in the North Gate ffs, how can I suddenly be in combat? lasted for about 5-7 minutes then just suddenly disappeared as it had come.

No ETA or about 3 months is my best guess on a fix.

SakuraRush · November 2018

supaskrub wrote: »

This bug is almost as annoying as the Cyrodiil perma load screens that hit console around a year ago. I should not have to walk from Ash to Ales on my Templar healer or flap my magwardens wings to get from A to B.. it’s ridiculous.

There’s also another annoying thing, in general overland I can take my Witchmothers while mounted but in Cyrodiil I get a forced dismount, no where near as bad as the “in combat” fiasco, just downright annoying.

I wouldn't expect a fix for the in combat issue any time soon. They still haven't fixed the world boss in The Rift that can put you in combat until you force close the game. We need to accept that these fixes are simply beyond the ability of those working on the game. And that things will just continue to get worse until everyone leaves.

GreenhaloX · November 2018

Ha ha.. I doubt it you will get any feedback from Rich Lambert or Brian Wheeler, but Gina is otherwise fairly good in taking notes of thread posts on here. However, I'm sure she has read and heard it all about complaints from us on how jacked up combat mechanics have been for both PvP and PvE. This crapshoot has been going on for a long time now. Yeah, the you cannot mount while in combat and you're not even in combat, or I'm taking a few steps and the screen freezes and/or crashes. Oh, lets not beat the horse on the jacked up 2H/Dizzying Swing and lightning staff heavy attack (amongst other things on the bugs thread section); or should we keep on smashing the damn horse until attentions are received and probable fixes weeks and months later. Good Lord..

BuddyAces · November 2018

Judging by what is and is not responded to on these forums about bugs, they have absolutely no clue how to fix this and are nowhere near fixing it.

SakuraRush · November 2018

BuddyAces wrote: »

Judging by what is and is not responded to on these forums about bugs, they have absolutely no clue how to fix this and are nowhere near fixing it.

Does it impact money? If not they'll ignore it as long as possible.

DeadlyRecluse · November 2018

It's probably a complex-enough issue that it'll take a good bit of time.

...honestly, if waiting for fixes gets you wound up, you may want to migrate to another game. I (mostly) love ESO, but timely fixes aren't really what it is known for (to be fair, this isn't uncommon in the genre).

Kharret · November 2018

Maybe we should start writing a negative reviews in Steam and other places to stimulate the process?

To draw some divine attention to the problem? From a
marketing Princes?

DeadlyRecluse · November 2018

Kharret wrote: »

Maybe we should start writing a negative reviews in Steam and other places to stimulate the process? To draw some divine attention to the problem? From a
marketing Princes?

I want to be a Marketing Prince.

Kharret · November 2018

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

I want to be a Marketing Prince.

I advise you to train up your speed skill then. You can surely start by bringing coffee to Marketing Princes.

Sarousse · November 2018

And the list of related posts getting longer and longer.

Palidon · November 2018

Folks this is just one of many reported problems that ZOS just turns a blind eye to and does not comment on. If they were going to fix it they would have by now.

Royaji · November 2018

It wasn't fix since... ehm, how long? Months? Years? Why do you expect them to fix it now?

Sarousse · November 2018

Royaji wrote: »

It wasn't fix since... ehm, how long? Months? Years? Why do you expect them to fix it now?

Not talking about the common "in combat for a few secs/minutes" well know bug.

I'm talking about MURKMIRE patch that made things totally out of control. I'm talking about staying in combat for 15, 20, 30+ minutes.

About being out of combat and suddenly become in combat with no reason.

Thanks to their game mechanics (in combat you can't teleport, you can't switch siege weapons, etc etc...), this broken combat timer totally ruins Cyrodiil experience.

We can tolerate lag, small bugs, weird meta, etc... But this one just NO.

SaintSubwayy · November 2018

I could ask the same about the rendering bugs in Trials....aaand all other buggs occuring in trials

Royaji · November 2018

Sarousse wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

It wasn't fix since... ehm, how long? Months? Years? Why do you expect them to fix it now?

Not talking about the common "in combat for a few secs/minutes" well know bug.

I'm talking about MURKMIRE patch that made things totally out of control. I'm talking about staying in combat for 15, 20, 30+ minutes.

About being out of combat and suddenly become in combat with no reason.

Thanks to their game mechanics (in combat you can't teleport, you can't switch siege weapons, etc etc...), this broken combat timer totally ruins Cyrodiil experience.

We can tolerate lag, small bugs, weird meta, etc... But this one just NO.

This bug tends to come and go in different patches. Sometimes it's nearly not noticeable and sometimes in hits a low such as in Murkmire. This is not the first patch when it was that bad.

oxygen_thief · November 2018

Sarousse wrote: »

When will we have this game breaking bug fixed ?

we are looking into it. its our first and foremost priority. get lost scrub thank you for cooperation!

Katahdin · November 2018

It's a feature

It will split up those zergs by keeping half of them in combat all the time

WitchyWarrior · November 2018

Royaji wrote: »

Sarousse wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

It wasn't fix since... ehm, how long? Months? Years? Why do you expect them to fix it now?

Not talking about the common "in combat for a few secs/minutes" well know bug.

I'm talking about MURKMIRE patch that made things totally out of control. I'm talking about staying in combat for 15, 20, 30+ minutes.

About being out of combat and suddenly become in combat with no reason.

Thanks to their game mechanics (in combat you can't teleport, you can't switch siege weapons, etc etc...), this broken combat timer totally ruins Cyrodiil experience.

We can tolerate lag, small bugs, weird meta, etc... But this one just NO.

This bug tends to come and go in different patches. Sometimes it's nearly not noticeable and sometimes in hits a low such as in Murkmire. This is not the first patch when it was that bad.

Exactly this. I even remember it being mentioned in past patch notes when they fixed it.
My only question them now is, wouldn't they know by now what causes it since they have fixed it before?
Seems like they have so many problems that pop up when changing one thing that they consciously let some go & thinks no one will notice or care since it's PVP.
Or they know that people will jump in these threads(like they have in this one) and make excuses for them & tell people to just shut up & deal with it.
This is my 1st MMO so I don't know if this is the norm but damn is it annoying. Seems very lazy

Kuramas9tails · November 2018

They did say they acknowledge it............
And you expect them to have a full answer and patch for it in a weeks time?

You should know better by now. lol.

Sarousse · November 2018

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

They did say they acknowledge it............

Didn't see a single dev post about it. Either a single word about it in a live stream.

Link it :P

xxthir13enxx · November 2018

I actually think this is a Zone issue...had Rapids on to Ride to a Keep that was Under Attack...went to swap Rapids out for combat skill but couldn’t switch skill as I was “in combat” hadn’t even fought yet... a Large group chased me Away from combat keep....and I avoided them and entered stealth and was able to swap skills...returned to combat Keep and battle is over and I go to mount...but “in combat”. Still never even been IN a combat....

Mayrael · November 2018

Calysis wrote: »

I almost never group in Cyrodill, and I've been encountering this issue along with the random loading screens while fighting or running. This seriously needs fixed, and hopefully revert the Murkmire change of being able to swap abilities or items on your quick slot bar if you haven't been attacked in like 10 seconds.

Same goes for me, I'm 95% of a time solo in Cyrodiil but still I get stuck in combat almost every day, especially when there are some zergs farming scrubs and I get hit or I hit one of that zerg members, then untill one of us die I'm stuck in combat.

themaddaedra · November 2018

Mayrael wrote: »

Calysis wrote: »

I almost never group in Cyrodill, and I've been encountering this issue along with the random loading screens while fighting or running. This seriously needs fixed, and hopefully revert the Murkmire change of being able to swap abilities or items on your quick slot bar if you haven't been attacked in like 10 seconds.

Same goes for me, I'm 95% of a time solo in Cyrodiil but still I get stuck in combat almost every day, especially when there are some zergs farming scrubs and I get hit or I hit one of that zerg members, then untill one of us die I'm stuck in combat.

Sometimes it even stays after dying. I remember force-quitting game quite a few times right after respawning in a god forbiden keep, trying to mount/change skills, seeing the mocky red glow on my screen like where u goin boy? nope, no no no mounting now, no you can't swap those while stuck in combat. no. no. no.

maboleth · November 2018

For me it's nowhere near +20mins, but up to 5min yes. The most irritating part is rushing to use wayshrine while the keep is still in UA but not >50% and failing to do so.

bottleofsyrup · November 2018

It seems like it's even worse after today's patch.

Ramber · November 2018

Its possible the crash fixes will effect the problems of which you speak... maybe take it for a ride and see if you are still experiencing the same issues before raging a bit... just sayin maybe